Neff 5047- mystery machine, any info?

[ultimafan]

This is probably the first time I've ever typed a model number of a particular washing machine and found NOTHING on it!

I was browsing some Which reports of the past, when I saw the Neff 5047 washing machine, which looked interesting as it seems to be rather futuristic for the 70's (possibly microchip controls, dispenser in door, provision for building in), so I typed the model number into Google, strangely enough, I have found no information of this machine at all, no pictures, no spare parts, no manuals, nothing, its a bit like this machine is a myth.

Does anyone have any info of this machine (apart from the info I'm posting from the Which reports? I'd love to see it, thanks!

Below is the info from the Which reports of 1977.

 

[ultimafan]

and heres the 1979 info

with a much less clearer picture, but more info of the machine

 

[ultimafan]

bump...

I wanted to also add that it slightly differs from Bosch/Siemens machines of that time as they had double doors (a decor door and a glass door) whereas this Neff has one door, which seems to be similar to Miele's of that time. Either this machine was created by Neff itself (possibly before BSH commissioned its appliances) or by someone else like Miele.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Neff 5047

I thought on first glance it was the integrated tumble dryer or washer dryer, but it is a detergent dispenser in the door...

As its integrated you can put your own decor panels on, in this case Palisander teak effect...for something thats suppost to be discreet it has rather large neon indicator selection lights!!

13 Progs, 5 Rinses , 2 spin speeds 400 / 800 rpm

 

[andyvivo]

Microchip controls

are not on this machine, it is timer controlled. Maybe they admired they admired the Keymatics?
This machine is before BSH influence.

 

[foraloysius]

I don't think they were inspired by the Keymatic. The design looks more inspired by the first AEG electronic machines. But it's not an AEG. There were more German brands at that time, the time smaller brands still struggled to exist. It even could be sourced from one of the Swiss brands. Pretty machine!

 

[cadman]

First machine I've seen.....

...with Nixie tubes!

 

[vacbear58]

Speaking of elegant ovens

This is a current project of mine - same vintage as the washer

 

[andyvivo]

Nice oven!

Is that the style which the handle pops away?
Read on wiki (how true I wonder?) that Neff did not become part of BSH until sometime in the 80's. Neff used to be part of AEG Telefunken which was a bit like the English Electric setup we had. Not that this washing machine looks like anything remotely like an AEG.

 

[vacbear58]

Oven

Andy

The pin stripe oven is a 1056 and ran from mid 1970s to mid-ish 1980s. The version with the pop out handle (and control knobs) and digital timer was the more upmarket 1057, although in functionality they were the same. There was a double oven version with pop out handles too.

In the mid 1980s the range was updated with two versions with pop out handles - one was pretty much like the old 1057 the other had a flashier temperature guide.

I had a 1057 from 1985 - 2000 and I bitterly regret getting rid of it as it was a great oven. But I have always liked this one too and assuming it works Ok (so far it is fine) I will be installing it as a daily driver - they are wonderful ovens.

This is what the 1057 I had was like (sorry for the crap picture), and although the pop out handles still worked fine, after I got over the novelty they were almost always out

Al

 

[chestermikeuk]

Not Dissimilar to

Later AEG Lavamat Turbo, this was a very hot dryer using three elements, bottom and two at ten to and ten past the drum, its was that hot you could bake in it!!

 

[turnamat]

...the washer is originally built by the Zanker Company which does not longer exist in Germany!It is specially designed for built in the kitchen counters.The detergent dispenser is in the door and it has electronic controls.Has not even popular over here!This model only last a few years!Didn´t know that NEFF worked together with ZANKER in this era.

Zanker was the company with the most qualified washers in the 60ies and70ies and very popular with the legandary Twin Tub"Intimat".

Greetings,

Thomas.

 

[andyvivo]

I reckon that these ovens will carry on for quite a few more years to come Al, I can imagine the pop handles being a novelty, although I do like the idea of the hide away door on the latest ovens. How long this will last.....

I remember how those washer dryers with lots of elements in the drum always had a very distinct smell when the dryer was on. I didn't like it! =)

 

[chestermikeuk]

"washer dryers with lots of elements in the drum always

Yes Andy - Cremate!! - we had tons of complaints about them melting & scorching fabrics etc, but if you used it correctly then they did dry cottons extremely quick.

Al, Classic Neff Styling & technology, I like the fascia on the late 70`s models but never liked the pop out handles for some reason, the clock timer and fascia was similar to the Bosch / Hotpoint offerings!!

Hi Cory, what are Nixie Tubes??

 

[andyvivo]

Mike

Could you have peak at my Dyson post on the deluxe forum please, I think my question can be answered by you =)

 

[ozzie908]

Ah the AEG WD AKA Oven...

My sister in law had a rather older AEG WD with a drop down door then the glass one with a long chrome handle hence the nickname "oven" However it lived up to its name when she decided to tumble dry her childrens pyjamas which were brushed nylon and the plastic pants.
Lets just say that neither were recognisable let alone useable just a large melted blob stuck to the drum....lol
it did cottons really well but anything else went on an airer !

Oh it had a quirk too when drying it tumbled constantly in the same direction, sheets were a nightmare !

Austin

 

[qualin]

Nixie tubes... wow.. I'd say that is really really rare..

Nixie tubes are what manufacturers used before LED displays came out.

They're basically a glass tube filled with neon. There are ten electrodes in there that glow orangeish-yellow when electricity is applied. Each electrode is in the shape of a number.

The best part about Nixie tubes is that they can be seen across the room and have a very distinctive old-school look. They are very highly sought after.

Google 'Nixie Clock' and you'll see exactly what I mean.

I guess it would have been a lot easier to drive nixie tubes with the higher voltage in Europe, so in some ways this makes sense.

I'll admit, that Neff machine was really ahead of its time! Thanks for sharing the pictures.

 

[foraloysius]

I corresponded with somebody who read the thread but doesn't write here because he is not very confident with writing in English.

The Neff/Zanker/AEG machines with the doorglass attached to the door (only one door, not two) were designed and built by Lepper, the manufacturer of Matura.

 

[foraloysius]

I'm sorry, I misunderstood something. I have to correct the fact that it would be a Lepper machine. This machine is actually a Zanker design. Zanker had all the patents for these machines.

The machine in Mike's picture, the Lavamat 2050 was made by Lepper.