Neff 5047- mystery machine, any info?

[ultimafan]

This is probably the first time I've ever typed a model number of a particular washing machine and found NOTHING on it!

I was browsing some Which reports of the past, when I saw the Neff 5047 washing machine, which looked interesting as it seems to be rather futuristic for the 70's (possibly microchip controls, dispenser in door, provision for building in), so I typed the model number into Google, strangely enough, I have found no information of this machine at all, no pictures, no spare parts, no manuals, nothing, its a bit like this machine is a myth.

Does anyone have any info of this machine (apart from the info I'm posting from the Which reports? I'd love to see it, thanks!

Below is the info from the Which reports of 1977.

 

[ultimafan]

and heres the 1979 info

with a much less clearer picture, but more info of the machine

 

[ultimafan]

bump...

I wanted to also add that it slightly differs from Bosch/Siemens machines of that time as they had double doors (a decor door and a glass door) whereas this Neff has one door, which seems to be similar to Miele's of that time. Either this machine was created by Neff itself (possibly before BSH commissioned its appliances) or by someone else like Miele.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Neff 5047

I thought on first glance it was the integrated tumble dryer or washer dryer, but it is a detergent dispenser in the door...

As its integrated you can put your own decor panels on, in this case Palisander teak effect...for something thats suppost to be discreet it has rather large neon indicator selection lights!!

13 Progs, 5 Rinses , 2 spin speeds 400 / 800 rpm

 

[andyvivo]

Microchip controls

are not on this machine, it is timer controlled. Maybe they admired they admired the Keymatics?
This machine is before BSH influence.

 

[foraloysius]

I don't think they were inspired by the Keymatic. The design looks more inspired by the first AEG electronic machines. But it's not an AEG. There were more German brands at that time, the time smaller brands still struggled to exist. It even could be sourced from one of the Swiss brands. Pretty machine!

 

[cadman]

First machine I've seen.....

...with Nixie tubes!

 

[vacbear58]

Speaking of elegant ovens

This is a current project of mine - same vintage as the washer

 

[andyvivo]

Nice oven!

Is that the style which the handle pops away?
Read on wiki (how true I wonder?) that Neff did not become part of BSH until sometime in the 80's. Neff used to be part of AEG Telefunken which was a bit like the English Electric setup we had. Not that this washing machine looks like anything remotely like an AEG.

 

[vacbear58]

Oven

Andy

The pin stripe oven is a 1056 and ran from mid 1970s to mid-ish 1980s. The version with the pop out handle (and control knobs) and digital timer was the more upmarket 1057, although in functionality they were the same. There was a double oven version with pop out handles too.

In the mid 1980s the range was updated with two versions with pop out handles - one was pretty much like the old 1057 the other had a flashier temperature guide.

I had a 1057 from 1985 - 2000 and I bitterly regret getting rid of it as it was a great oven. But I have always liked this one too and assuming it works Ok (so far it is fine) I will be installing it as a daily driver - they are wonderful ovens.

This is what the 1057 I had was like (sorry for the crap picture), and although the pop out handles still worked fine, after I got over the novelty they were almost always out

Al

 

[chestermikeuk]

Not Dissimilar to

Later AEG Lavamat Turbo, this was a very hot dryer using three elements, bottom and two at ten to and ten past the drum, its was that hot you could bake in it!!

 

[turnamat]

...the washer is originally built by the Zanker Company which does not longer exist in Germany!It is specially designed for built in the kitchen counters.The detergent dispenser is in the door and it has electronic controls.Has not even popular over here!This model only last a few years!Didn´t know that NEFF worked together with ZANKER in this era.

Zanker was the company with the most qualified washers in the 60ies and70ies and very popular with the legandary Twin Tub"Intimat".

Greetings,

Thomas.

 

[andyvivo]

I reckon that these ovens will carry on for quite a few more years to come Al, I can imagine the pop handles being a novelty, although I do like the idea of the hide away door on the latest ovens. How long this will last.....

I remember how those washer dryers with lots of elements in the drum always had a very distinct smell when the dryer was on. I didn't like it! =)

 

[chestermikeuk]

"washer dryers with lots of elements in the drum always

Yes Andy - Cremate!! - we had tons of complaints about them melting & scorching fabrics etc, but if you used it correctly then they did dry cottons extremely quick.

Al, Classic Neff Styling & technology, I like the fascia on the late 70`s models but never liked the pop out handles for some reason, the clock timer and fascia was similar to the Bosch / Hotpoint offerings!!

Hi Cory, what are Nixie Tubes??

 

[andyvivo]

Mike

Could you have peak at my Dyson post on the deluxe forum please, I think my question can be answered by you =)

 

[ozzie908]

Ah the AEG WD AKA Oven...

My sister in law had a rather older AEG WD with a drop down door then the glass one with a long chrome handle hence the nickname "oven" However it lived up to its name when she decided to tumble dry her childrens pyjamas which were brushed nylon and the plastic pants.
Lets just say that neither were recognisable let alone useable just a large melted blob stuck to the drum....lol
it did cottons really well but anything else went on an airer !

Oh it had a quirk too when drying it tumbled constantly in the same direction, sheets were a nightmare !

Austin

 

[qualin]

Nixie tubes... wow.. I'd say that is really really rare..

Nixie tubes are what manufacturers used before LED displays came out.

They're basically a glass tube filled with neon. There are ten electrodes in there that glow orangeish-yellow when electricity is applied. Each electrode is in the shape of a number.

The best part about Nixie tubes is that they can be seen across the room and have a very distinctive old-school look. They are very highly sought after.

Google 'Nixie Clock' and you'll see exactly what I mean.

I guess it would have been a lot easier to drive nixie tubes with the higher voltage in Europe, so in some ways this makes sense.

I'll admit, that Neff machine was really ahead of its time! Thanks for sharing the pictures.

 

[foraloysius]

I corresponded with somebody who read the thread but doesn't write here because he is not very confident with writing in English.

The Neff/Zanker/AEG machines with the doorglass attached to the door (only one door, not two) were designed and built by Lepper, the manufacturer of Matura.

 

[foraloysius]

I'm sorry, I misunderstood something. I have to correct the fact that it would be a Lepper machine. This machine is actually a Zanker design. Zanker had all the patents for these machines.

The machine in Mike's picture, the Lavamat 2050 was made by Lepper.

 

[matchboxpaul]

Hi all.

The Neff 5047, when I first saw it, made me think it was a fake machine knocked together in a props department.

The fascia is certainly unique in its design and simple aesthetics. Very smart, but in a weird way.
Ohhh to find one.

Thanks to Louis for the information on where it originated.

Paul

 

[turnamat]

Lepper has build the fastest washer/dryer combinations in the late 70ies and early 80ies!They first built them for the "Quelle"warehouse,named Matura but also for AEG,Bauknecht and Respekta in Germany.A full drying load(2.5kg) only took 45 Min.to get cupboard dry.A sensation for a washer/dryer in the 70ies.Most other brands took 2 hours and even more!But the clothes got "baked" so their system is not built any more in today´s combinations!

The NEFF Machine shown above is a washer only and originally built by ZANKER.Zanker is a part of the Electrolux company today!It used to be the finest washer brand in the 60ies with very high quality standard and a futuristic design!

Thomas.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Who`s Name

Austin, yes I can understand that happening with the , a work colleague was house sitting and managed to cremate a weeks worth of white poly blend workshirts with appliance logos on, the white nylon shrank & scortched but the cotton printed logos was all that was about left!!!

Qualin, Nixie Tubes - now I understand, I do laugh though as the add is selling "discreet" whilst the lighted fascia will light up the room and give the game away!!

Louis, with all the makes and manufacturers and who does what, and where they where made, I lose track myself ..

Paul, I googles this from my desktop filebank, just thinking, was this yours or good housekeeping, Ta, anyway!!

Greetings Thomas, thank you, glad you could give us the information on these machines, its a pity all these iconic brands for all of us dont exist anymore, all we have is a lot of plain white boxes!!! Those AEG washer dryers did sell well, all the other integrated Aeg appliances had optional colour fascias (including the WD colour ) about 20 different combinations, so you bought the oven & hob then added the colour fascias & control knobs you wanted - very ahead of its time!!

 

[matchboxpaul]

lol

Hi Mike.

The photo orginated from a guy called Mike King - a great bloke and always willing to share stuff but, as he has said to me many a time, not always aware of what he has got in his own reference banks.

Do you know him at all?

Paul

 

[chestermikeuk]

Lol....Does anybody really know him!!!

Like have said many times you`ve got the official status of " Heritage & Curatorial Manager" when the museum officially opens - but you must still have the title untill it does!!

 

[matchboxpaul]

Heritage & Curatorial Manager

of a vintage domestic appliance museum - one of my dream jobs!

One day hopefully, though I am sure there would be many applicants.

Those early 80s AEG's are my favourite AEG machines, closely followed by their replacement series.
Solidly built and smartly styled, one of these lived round the corner from me, in an all wood 80s style kitchen, in the house of a primary and junior school mate. It was a semi integrated AEG Lavamat - drop down door, with the long internal door release handle. A great looking machine in the perfect setting.

Just thought - an AEG 802T lived in the bungalow (number 5) at the top of my parents road for a fair few years and at number 10 resided an AEG Turnamat automatic twin tub. What a machine!
AEG - as a youngster circa 1984, in a cul-de-sac of 12 houses full of Hotpoint, Hoover, Servis and Creda, alongwith the Zanussi WD2290, AEG was rather a novelty.

Paul

 

[ultimafan]

thanks for the replies...

What an interesting read, I didn't know anything about nixie tubes, let alone their use in appliances before LEDs, looks smart as the programme selector. I'm not surprised that it may be a relative of Electrolux, it reminds me of a Zanussi setup with the buttons on the left hand side.

 

[turnamat]

Here´s a page of the Zanker General Catalogue of 1976:

Greetings from Germany,

Thomas.

 

[electronic9310]

I have that Model in my collection.

 

[logixx]

Should be similar to this one

 

[electronic9310]

That is my channel ;-)