New compact P&G powders for the UK and new Unilever Persil Naturals range

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I noticed people are wishing we still had compact powders here, well your prayers have been answered!

From Marketing Week:

Procter & Gamble is poised to introduce compact versions of its laundry detergent formats across all brands. The decision means fillers will be removed from powders, tablets and liquitabs, reducing their size by up to a quarter, by February 2009.

The move, which will include P&G detergent brands Ariel, Bold, Fairy and Daz, is intended to shore up P&G's green credentials following its £12m "Turn to 30°" campaign for flagship brand Ariel.

It is thought that P&G will support the new compact products with a major marketing campaign in spring 2009. The company is aiming for continued growth in its mid-market brand Bold, whose market share rose by 3% between 2005 and 2007. Both Bold and Ariel have about an 18% share.

P&G's Bold strategy has been focused on strongly-fragranced variants, such as Black Diamond and Lotus Flower.

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I did read that Unilever will be doing the same for Persil & Surf but they haven't announced when their compacts will be out. Persil are also launching Persil Naturals to match the new Comfort Naturals range so wouldn't be surprised if this launched in the new compact version.

From Marketing Week:

That Unilever is extending flagship laundry brand Persil with a fragranced sub-brand highlights the struggle manufacturers face to add meaningful value in a fiercely competitive sector.

The move also confirms that it is fragrance-led innovation that leads the way in today's laundry detergent market, rather than format or task-driven development.

Persil, the market leader, is facing increasing competition from Procter & Gamble mid-market brand Bold - which has leveraged its own fragranced range resulting in strong growth - as well as from supermarket own-labels, which have become more attractive in today's price-sensitive market.

According to Mintel, the detergents market is forecast to see only marginal growth from its total 2007 value of £857m. Persil, although still the market leader, has seen its brand share drop by 2% since 2005, from 24% to 22%.

Sensitive skin

The new Persil sub-brand, Persil Naturals, is set to launch in early 2009 and echoes the just-launched Naturals variants added to Unilever's market-leading fabric conditioner Comfort. The Comfort Naturals line has been developed for sensitive skin and is available in three variants/ olive blossom with cotton extract; jojobaoil and white orchid; and a fragrance blended with aloe vera.

The move to introduce fragrances to Persil is proof that premium detergent brands are having to develop new ways to simply maintain market share, say experts.
 
Compact Powder

Hi Simon,
Funny I mentioned about the new compact Ariel in the Which? Thread.
If it performs as well as Ariel Excel Gel does I can't wait to try it.

I really love the vintage scents P&G have used in the Lenor Infusions with Touch Effects Technology, Barefoot in the Grass and A Breath of Fresh Air are just divine to my nose.

I used to enjoy the scent of Blue Comfort but unfortunately Unilever choose to ruin that one and I don't care for their new Naturals range, they all smell overpowering sweet floral to my nose. Like the new Blue Comfort they also make me sneeze and irritate my skin.

David
 
Compact powders

It is interesting that both major players in the UK are looking at 'introducing' compact powders....

....but havn't we been here before?

I returned from a holiday in the UK with a small packet or persil in my luggage...it was packaged in sealed plastic bag...Friends sent me back a further 6 larger bags (about 1kg each) in 1998/9...

In the interim, the vast majority of manufacturers introduced compact powders to our market so that today, it is rare to be able to buy a traditional 'cup' formula. Most are a 'scoop' style dose with one dose being approximately 100mls though some, such as Bio Zet have a smaller standard dose.

The exception is Levers...it is still possible to buy Omomatic as a 2/3 cup dose formula..

Tablets never took off here. Levers did market them for Omo/Omomatic (which were Persil tablets made in the UK/Europe) but given our preference for controling our dosages they failed....
 
Compact Detergents

Hi Chris,
Yes we have been there before and in a way still are, Unilever and P&G phased out the compacts and introduced their Tablets. It is my understanding this time around there will be no fillers in the new formulations. One detergent I use is Amway SA8 Premium with Bioquest, it has no fillers and the dose is extremely small compared to other products.

David
 
Concern

David....

I didn't realise that they were going to make them even smaller dosages.

My only concern here is that the smaller the dosage, the easier it will be for people to over dose their machine. With the current 'scoop' set up, a 2 or 3 teaspoons more or less isn't really an issue as it is only about 10-15%, but if the size of the dose decreases then this error potentially increase. That 'little extra' could be as much as 30%.

I can hear the pensioners screaming now with foam coming out their dispenser drawers...
 
Comfort Naturals - can't say I love it

I tried one of the Comfort Naturals and I really didn't like it. I'm back on Comfort Pure again.

Persil's main powder formula definitely needs to re-think its fragrance though ?
 
I think both Ariel & Persil need to rethink their powder scents.

I'm looking forward to the compact versions though - the liquitabs are going to be tiny!

The disappointing thing about the Persil Naturals range is that it's likely to be all non-bio, if they are being marketed for sensitive skin. It just seems like a step backwards, instead of improving cleaning performance of bio versions, they are just making different smelling inferior non-bios. I find it a bit annoying the way that these things are marketed, it makes bio detergents appear to be bad for your skin in a lot of peoples' minds.
 
They really need to start calling them "hypoalergenic" or "sensitive"

Non-bio no longer makes sense
 
I agree and a lot of people still don't understand what bio/non-bio actually means. I think other Euro countries have it right, with their "White, Colour, Sensitive White and Sensitive Colour" ranges. I guess 'Sensitive' is a more common term for other countries as they have biological hypoallergenic detergents instead of our non-bio stuff. If there was ever proof that 'non-bio = good for skin' was just a marketing gimmick, that must be it.
 
Oh how excitin!!:D:D

I loooooooooved compact detergents! tiny scoops:D It is a good move for smaller packaging. Does this mean big boxes will be few and far between as they push the compact detergents?

Darren
 
Off-Topic I know, but...

I was in the Co-op supermarket today and spied "Dixan" conventional powder detergent by Henkel. Large pack of 80 washes for just under eight quid.

I think it also made mention of being distributed by an Edinburgh company.
 
Hi Rolls

It's not the first time someone has mentioned Dixan being sold in the Co-op, I seem to remember this came up a couple of years ago?

Have not seen it south of the border. I, personally, wouldn't hesitate to buy a box. This is the `number one' detergent in Cyprus and is popular in other countries too. In some countries I believe this is German Persil sold under a different name. Whatever, it's very likely to be a decent product.... In Cyprus it was called `Dixan Power Plus' and the handwash version of it, wait for it, `Wipp Express'!! Direct equivalent of `Mir Express' in France if you ever came across that. Gotta love that name for a detergent though.

Let us know if you get a box and what you think!

Wipp Express:



Dixan `2000' (concentrate no less)



Nick

 

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