New dishwasher detergent dispensers being flooded

[maytaga806]

I wanted to ask if anyone else has noticed this irritating phenomenon in newer dishwashers. You place a pac, or detergent of choice in the dispenser and close it and by the end of the first pre rinse you smell your detergent, look inside and pop the detergent cup to find out that half or nearly all the detergent has been flooded out of the dispenser? This happens every single cycle on my new GE portable. Drives me insane. By the time it’s done with its four or five pre rinses on the auto cycle, there is practically nothing left in the detergent dispenser for the main wash. It’s being flooded severely by the upper wash arm. The seal is still fine, but it’s like the seal isn’t thick enough? The last time I opened it up the other night after the final pre rinse, a little glob of my Cascade pac was left, 90% of it had already been dissolved into the first few pre rinses. First of all, idk why this dishwasher runs so many pre rinses but it’s absurd. Sometimes it does one pre rinse, other times it does four. Chinese built crap, I know.

I noticed this happen on my family’s 2019 Maytag. If you place a pac in the dispenser, it will be completely flushed out in the first pre rinse. Things are just not built right anymore. What’s the point of a dispenser when it’s not working the way intended so? My old whirlpool power clean has a very tight fitting seal around the cup, and has never once flooded during the pre rinse the detergent pac always stays fully in tact up until the main wash when it’s released. This just really irritates me, most loads I want a pre rinse done cause I let dishes get real nasty, and now it’s senseless using the detergent dispenser at this point if it’s just gonna wash away almost half to all the detergent inside of it within the first ten-fifteen mins. This drives me crazy. Maybe I could find something to seal this detergent dispenser better.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

stupid design

I think that was a stupid design. They could've waited until the detergent dispenser was open. What was the point in this?

 

[me]

My Bosch dishwasher's dispenser fills with water during the pre-rinse, it's designed that way to pre-dissolve the dishwasher powder/detergent, but it is not supposed to leak out. Our previous dishwasher, a hotpoint(UK) branded Bosch from the late 80's or early 90s worked the same way.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

detergent dispenser

Okay, I see. I think mine predissolves the detergent without leaking so it becomes a solution without detergent burn.

 

[Chetlaham]

Every single detergent dispenser I've opened before the main wash release was filled with water to the brim. Some like GE Hotpoints I believe even leaked detergent out. However with a modern machine I agree that it shouldn't be leaking out the way it is. I think the best detergent dispenser was the Whirlpool Power Clean.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

close to slide detergent cup

It seems like everybody is using slide to close detergent cups. What were they thinking? It reminds me of a Bosch design which everybody else copied.

 

[lakewebsterkid]

full of water

The only machine I have ever used that does this was my Bosch. My Power Clean, Point Voyager, and Micro Clean do not do this. 

However, the Bosch did not leak out. That sounds like a bad seal.

 

[mattl]

My KA has a rubber seal around the dispenser door.

 

[combo52]

Leaking detergent dispenser

If it’s really leaking out and the detergent is getting quite diluted by the time it opens I would be complaining to GE big time, there’s something wrong with the dispenser.

There is a rubber seal on your dispenser, but it may not be made properly get them to replace the dispenser would be the first step unless they have another better solution.

John

 

[egress]

Sliding detergent dispensers

They don't get blocked by errant plates or large dishes. several times I recall our old point voyagers didn't open fully because it hit a platter or something and then the wash would finish without so much as an attempt to dissolve the full quantity of detergent, necessitating a redo of the entire cycle. The sliding design reduces or eliminates this issue, and I much prefer it though it has a chance to get stuck if you use pods with a plastic skin, which can partially dissolve into a glue. not an issue for us, we use powder.

 

[DADoES]

 
No trouble with this 20yo.  Current models have the same dispenser.

1) Loaded, 2) closed, 3) after prewash, 4) after prerinse, 5) after main wash fill.

 

[lavamat_jon]

The tablets have always stayed dry in the dispenser in my previous Miele and Bosch dishwasher, and my current Siemens (Bosch) dishwasher. The Siemens and previous Bosch dishwashers have the sliding dispensers.

The Mieles had a prewash section with holes so that prewash detergent could be rinsed out and dispensed if you were using powder.

 

[Chetlaham]

I want to ask- how practical would it be to build dishwashers without a detergent dispenser? I'm think a simple molded dish would solve a common failure point?

 

[adam-aussie-vac]

Surprisingly, they were actually

Some dishwasher that had a little cup/divot To put detergent into, The one that I used to have it was made in Israel, and it went straight into a hot main wash if you wanted to do a pre-wash, you would set the machine to the final rinse and let it pre Rinse, it did a pretty good job drying As well, considering it used The same element For heating water and drying dishes, that was the “Lemair pony” Dishwasher, It worked good until I Time travelled to the 50s and moved that one on

 

[gelaundry4ever]

to egress

My dad's Kenmore has a sliding detergent dispenser. The rinse aid dispenser opens up when you lift the dispenser lid. It's like a retake on Bosch. And yes, I noticed that even though plates and platters are in the front, the detergent dispenser still fully opens.

 

[lavamat_jon]

Cheatlaham,

Completely impractical, if you want a cycle with a prewash.

Some table top dishwashers here(mostly Midea made I think) don’t do a prewash and have a tablet cup moulded in the interior of the door, often with a window.

One could argue dishes by hand would eliminate even more common failure points.

 

[petek]

Jerome, perhaps your dads Kenmore is a rebadged Bosch. I recall the Kenmore Elite being a Bosch

 

[Chetlaham]

Well, I beg to ask- do you really need a prewash cycle?

 

[gelaundry4ever]

my dad's dishwasher

My dad's Kenmore in Killeen is a Whirlpool built unit. Mine is a Bosch built Kenmore. My apartment dishwasher does a great job. I am amazed at how powerful the spray pressure is, even at low pressure.