New Dishwasher ordered

[48bencix]

Thanks fpr the cycle explanation

Bob,
Thanks for the cycle sequence explanation. This morning I pressed start twice which selects the Auto Cycle should be two hours and 4 minutes, time shows 2:54. The Auto Cycle is the sensor cycle and could be as fast as 2:03. The top control is visible from the front because the counter has a gap below it so I can see the timer when it is running. For the first use I thought the auto cycle would be nice to try. Unless I am right next to it I cannot hear it so I may miss some of what it is doing.

I do wonder about the pods. I have been using the Finish ones and they left a red greasy residue at the bottom of the door. For the first wash I cut off that clear plastic cover. They used to package the pods in a foil pack and that was better. Yes, I know the clear plastic dissolves, but why was that residue in my old dishwasher?

Martin

 

[appnut]

Martin, the initial cycle run on Auto is a calibration cycle. It does extra stuff. The cycle will always start out displaying longest time and will adjust as cycle progresses if appropriate. In both my Whirlpool/KitchenAid produced products, the time display would decrease or increase as the situation warranted.

 

[48bencix]

I suspected

I thought that might be the case. Another feature, miss-described in the literature, there is a small light on the front panel. When washing it glows blue, drying red, and when the cycle is done it glows white.

 

[appnut]

My 2 previous dishwashers did the same thing with the little light.

 

[iiijohnnymaciii]

Third Rack

Martin, how do you like the third rack? Do you find it very useful?

 

[48bencix]

Havn't had it long enough

John
Today is only the second full load. I put large spoons on the third rack. I am one of the "I do it every night" partial load users. But I actually do it in the morning because of cheaper electricity during the morning hours. Seems if I wait and do a really full load I run out of some bowl, plate or utensil. When I was shopping I actually liked the two rack model, but they had the three rack model in stock so I took it. Many dishwashers are not in stock. So you have to wait. Today I am testing it with a meatloaf glass pan, not pre-scrubbed like I normally did.

Oh, and Maytag makes a 9959 model with a fan. This model does not have the fan which would make drying more thorough. I have not seen that model anywhere. But it is not available in white so probably I would not want it.

I saw your comment about the filtration system and I purchased with a VISA card for the extra one year warranty. There have been some reports of the chopper breaking. But I think it is user replaceable.

Martin

 

[48bencix]

Meat Loaf Pan

The glass Meat Loaf pan came out squeaky clean. Lots of residue on it before washing. Happy with that.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

48bencix

Does your dishwasher alternate spraying or is it ran all at once?

 

[iiijohnnymaciii]

That’s nice to hear, Martin. I’d say you know how to pick dishwashers. Here’s to this one lasting as long as your last one!

 

[48bencix]

Too many models

Maytag makes too many models. If I had taken more time I would have ordered a model with the fan for drying. So far this one dries as well as my old dishwasher. The washing is much better, removing lots of gunk that I used to scrub off.

This model is alternating to how many levels I do not know. Maybe more than just two.

I asked about other brands and the salesman said that Bosch makes good dishwashers, but they did not have any in stock, and take a long time to order.

All in all I am happy with this one. I should have taken pictures before they slid it in. The insulation is 1/4" black material. Not the usual 1" thick fiberglass.

I am used to running the hot water for a few seconds to supply the dishwasher with the hottest water. Probably does not matter since the water is automatically heated for various washes and rinses. Since the cycles are so long, water coming in later would be colder.

 

[lakewebsterkid]

Cycle

Glad you like it. I am very interested to see how reliable these machines are. From what I have read, it appears that the Auto cycle performs 2 post-rinses regardless (including final rinse). I would also look for a machine with the fan for drying.
I would imagine the issue with greasy residue would be resolved with adding phosphates to the detergent dispenser.

 

[henene4]

BSH DW are in short supply

Over here, currently, if you can get ahold of any Bosch (or BSH DW in general), you'll be paying basically 1-2 model tiers higher than you get.

Entry line used to retail for below 400€, now retail at what the midrange was before.
Midrange is higher range, higher range retail for TOL money and the TOLs retail for Miele money.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

videos of these

I'd love to see videos of these new Maytags in action from the inside. It will be interesting to see which of the arms will alternate during a cycle. It looks like Maytag was the last brand to move to alternating wash system.

 

[48bencix]

Initial Observations

I have been using the new Maytag for about a month. Here's what I like:

Very good washing using the Auto cycle. The Quick cycle is not as thorough. I do not mind the long cycles. I am rinsing the dishes but not as much as I used to. Two times there was food in the Foreign Object Cup, once a pea and once two pieces of fettuccine. It is not really a filter that needs cleaning, but you have to look at it occasionally. The unit is quiet but not as quiet as I first thought. During the cycle, some portions are noisier than others. Probably the lowest washing level is the noisiest. I am letting the cycle run to the end. I used to open the old dishwasher and let the steam out during the drying cycle. The drying is very good even without a fan. A very small slot lets the steam and air out.

The old dishwasher had a white tub and white silverware basket which made the interior brighter and easier to see. Stainless is very dark and the racks and silverware basket being grey make it harder to see if there is still a spoon in there. I can see why some versions have interior lighting. (Kitchen Aid I think) The old dishwasher was not a tall tub and was a little easier to load on the bottom rack.

The grey interior plastic parts are water spotting. I do not have a water softener, the water is not real hard but it bothers me a little to see the non pristine grey plastic.

All in all I am pleased with this unit.

I received an offer from Maytag for a service plan. I decided to buy 5 years of coverage which starts after the one year original warranty. I finally read the two pages of tightly spaced information and am not sure if the warranty is that good. The plan has the option of a buy out if they do not want to repair. Product age of 1-5 years they give you 75% years 5-10 45%. So when the unit is in the last year of coverage they can just give you 45% of the original purchase price. This information was available before I bought the coverage but I did not read it until today. In California you have 60 days to revoke and get your money back. I will think about it. Has anyone used this type of warranty, think it is worth it?

 

[spookiness]

I'm in the market

Hello, longtime subscriber but haven't been on in awhile. I'm looking for something "mid-range" dishwasher somewhere between $700 and $900. I know about the Bosch 300 series, and

Maytag MDB4949SKZ has been on my list for a long time. I like the simple looks of it, price, and have read good things. It also is front rather than top control, which I kind of like.

Lately some GE models have caught my attention. GDF630PSMSS (front control), and GDP630PYRFS (top control). There are numerous variations of the top control model. Of the GE's, I like the 3rd rack, and I'm really attracted to the bottle jets. I can't find any other makers of bottle jets, except maybe a Kitchen Aid?

I haven't found any recent threads about GE. My current machine is Kenmore, maybe 10 years old, came with the house. It's ok, just ready to upgrade. In the past I avoided GE appliances, however the GE gas range in my old house was superb. The Kenmore range I have now (I think it's Whirlpool) is good, but I much prefer GE's F/R/R/F knob placement, than F/R/F/R which I still can't used to.

Are there any other dishwasher with my preferred criteria: $7/900, 1k max, stainless steel front, 3 rack, food disposer. Water jets would be real nice, I'm neutral on plastic vs stainless tub, noise level not important. Prefer a mainstream brand, US production a plus.

 

[mark_wpduet]

My little opinion

Keep in mind....while I love appliances and do some research, I don't have nearly the expertise as some on here. But I agree with your choice with the Maytag and I know of a few others who are happy with theirs...But I've also heard LG's are great too..

 

[gelaundry4ever]

Maytag alternating arms

I didn't see any info about Maytag's alternating wash system. They seem to be the last of the Whirlpool line to do so.

 

[egress]

its the same system used in the kitchenaid models. up until this generation, maytag used a wash system that I believe was based upon the point voyager, whirlpools last mainline wash system to not alternate arms. they are the last of the whirlpool built brands to shift to alternating arms.

 

[combo52]

Best Mid Range DWs

I would skip the GEs and LGs, we are seeing way too many problems with GE DWs these days and while LGs are nicely designed they are even less repairable.

 

Stick with GE for gas or electric ranges however.

 

John L.

 

[spookiness]

Thanks for the comment. I really do like the GE bottle washers, but there also seems to be an availability problem with GE. Another annoyance is Lowe's has them on sale for a great price, but they're "not in stock", and they won't let you backorder them. The come back in stock after the sale ends (imagine that), shoot back up in price, and go back out of stock again after only a couple days. So now I'm leaning towards the Maytag.