Reply #16. Thank you. These look like nice machines.
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iiijohnnymaciii
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Miele 7000 series?
The new 7000 series Mieles look nice. 3rd rack for silverware with a dedicated spray arm. The 3rd rack is also adjustable so you can place tall cups/water bottles on the middle rack. They look to have an updated system this year with the bottom spray arm is directly connected to the filter. Supposed 20 year lifespan using once per day as well.
The new 7000 series Mieles look nice. 3rd rack for silverware with a dedicated spray arm. The 3rd rack is also adjustable so you can place tall cups/water bottles on the middle rack. They look to have an updated system this year with the bottom spray arm is directly connected to the filter. Supposed 20 year lifespan using once per day as well.
I have a G7000 and am very happy with it.
Very efficient and good results with good detergent.
However it really has long cycles and drying on plastics is just decent.
I'd rather have a Bosch with Zeolite drying.
It's cheaper, cleans just as well and just as efficient but drys way better with shorter cycle times.
Might not last as long and not feel quite that high end, but under normal pricing situations they are half the price.
Very efficient and good results with good detergent.
However it really has long cycles and drying on plastics is just decent.
I'd rather have a Bosch with Zeolite drying.
It's cheaper, cleans just as well and just as efficient but drys way better with shorter cycle times.
Might not last as long and not feel quite that high end, but under normal pricing situations they are half the price.
mielerod69
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Miele G 7000
I have a G 7919 SCi and have to say I'm extremely pleased with it. It's connected to hot water so the cycle times are shorter and the results are great. There are lots of options you can add to the programs. I tried the SuperVison where you can check what's going on with other Miele appliances, but I then switched it off as I have the app on my phone.
I have a G 7919 SCi and have to say I'm extremely pleased with it. It's connected to hot water so the cycle times are shorter and the results are great. There are lots of options you can add to the programs. I tried the SuperVison where you can check what's going on with other Miele appliances, but I then switched it off as I have the app on my phone.
jerrod_six
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Rod
In another thread, you mentioned that the extra clean option on your 7000 series would do a flush between each program segment. Will you describe what the flush is so I can better understand what is happening.
Thanks
In another thread, you mentioned that the extra clean option on your 7000 series would do a flush between each program segment. Will you describe what the flush is so I can better understand what is happening.
Thanks
maytaga806
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The new Whirlpool line featuring the new filtration system that requires “No regular maintenance” looks very appealing, the top of the line Whirlpool Kitchenaid & Maytag are all identical with third racks and fully stainless with the new thin wash arms. I’ve heard complaints about a part getting dislodged in the pump, but other than that people say it’s a great performer. Which I’m not sure if all wash levels work at once, or if they switch like the older style Whirlpools with the “Total Coverage” spray arm. I’d totally get a brand new Maytag fully loaded, looks really nice. But to me, these new dishwashers by Whirlpool look slightly cheaply made and the voyager Maytag top control Jetcleans really looked sharp from when it was first introduced in 2009.
jakeseacrest
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Amana from 2014 is what I have in my apartment. I use Normal with Hi Temp or Heavy and I always have clean dishes and haven't had any complaints.
rolls_rapide
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"... a flush between each program segment."
I am assuming that it is a bit like my old Bosch.
After the mainwash, my Bosch drains the dirty water, then does one of two things:
- It seems to fill part of the water matrix, tap is turned off, then it pours that into the tub, circulation for a second or two and then drains separately a few seconds later. This is the most common sequence as far as I can tell, and seems to occur after each rinse, and most of the main washes.
- Other times (not always) it seems to open the tap and pumps straight out at the same time. Similar to someone constantly running a tap straight down the sink plughole. I've wondered whether this is a genuine suds or dirt flush, or whether it is really connected to water softener regeneration.
I am assuming that it is a bit like my old Bosch.
After the mainwash, my Bosch drains the dirty water, then does one of two things:
- It seems to fill part of the water matrix, tap is turned off, then it pours that into the tub, circulation for a second or two and then drains separately a few seconds later. This is the most common sequence as far as I can tell, and seems to occur after each rinse, and most of the main washes.
- Other times (not always) it seems to open the tap and pumps straight out at the same time. Similar to someone constantly running a tap straight down the sink plughole. I've wondered whether this is a genuine suds or dirt flush, or whether it is really connected to water softener regeneration.
mielerod69
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Miele Extra Clean option
Hi Jerrod_Six,
The Extra Clean option does a flush of the filter/sump. It uses 1 litre/1 quart of water to do this. It does this at the end of the prewash, end of the main wash and end of the interim rinse. The water enters and drains at the same time as a regeneration cycle.
The dishwasher does regenerate periodically but does this at the beginning of the cycle.
Hi Jerrod_Six,
The Extra Clean option does a flush of the filter/sump. It uses 1 litre/1 quart of water to do this. It does this at the end of the prewash, end of the main wash and end of the interim rinse. The water enters and drains at the same time as a regeneration cycle.
The dishwasher does regenerate periodically but does this at the beginning of the cycle.
@Rollsrapide
I thought when they run the fill and drain at the same time its cleaning the water softener crystals as the Miele did that but not always after every wash and it only used soft water on wash and final rinse.
Austin
I thought when they run the fill and drain at the same time its cleaning the water softener crystals as the Miele did that but not always after every wash and it only used soft water on wash and final rinse.
Austin
whirlpool new line
I assume this is the whirlpool line with micro clean filtration. Correct?
I assume this is the whirlpool line with micro clean filtration. Correct?
rolls_rapide
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@ozzie908
You could well be right about the 'fill and immediate drain' being softener regeneration.
My machine has grand ideas about mixing the final rinse water proportions of soft water to unsoftened water. The final rinse pressure to the upper basket is also too insipid in my opinion.
I personally preferred the older idea - completely softened final rinse water, with decent water pressure delivered to all areas of the cabinet, and allow the modern rinse-aids to introduce the sacrificial zinc component to mitigate glass corrosion.
You could well be right about the 'fill and immediate drain' being softener regeneration.
My machine has grand ideas about mixing the final rinse water proportions of soft water to unsoftened water. The final rinse pressure to the upper basket is also too insipid in my opinion.
I personally preferred the older idea - completely softened final rinse water, with decent water pressure delivered to all areas of the cabinet, and allow the modern rinse-aids to introduce the sacrificial zinc component to mitigate glass corrosion.
jerrod_six
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Thanks, Rod
Mine does the softener regeneration at the beginning of the program once in a while, so I understand the behavior you are describing. So the DW uses a 1-liter in total extra for the entire program when this option is selected.
Much thanks for the info.
Mine does the softener regeneration at the beginning of the program once in a while, so I understand the behavior you are describing. So the DW uses a 1-liter in total extra for the entire program when this option is selected.
Much thanks for the info.
