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My Whirlpool disposer gave up the ghost months ago so I replaced it w/ a "run of the mill" ISE Badger (and it seems to be the same thing in a world of look-alike garbage disposers)...
I got my plumbing under the sink refurbished along with it!
I really thought it was just the plug on the end of the cord coming off of the old one, too--but there was a lot more wrong that that, which my friend's "Expert Plumbing Skills" revealed!
-- Dave
I got my plumbing under the sink refurbished along with it!
I really thought it was just the plug on the end of the cord coming off of the old one, too--but there was a lot more wrong that that, which my friend's "Expert Plumbing Skills" revealed!
-- Dave
I recall seeing "Badger" models receiving a unanimous bad rap on this forum in the past.
As is true with just about all appliances made today, they're not built as well as they used to be, and this includes disposers. I'll respectfully suggest that your first mistake was to replace a unit that failed after a year with the exact same type.
Check on line for reviews and see if that helps you decide. Generally speaking, the sites such as "epinions" and others tend to have a lot more negative reviews than positive. Bad news is readily shared, but when people are satisfied they aren't as motivated to go to the trouble of posting. On most review sites it's easy to discern that user error is the reason for failure, but it does take some sifting through the posts to form your own educated opinion.
Sometimes you can get linked to Consumer Reports reviews without having to pay to subscribe. CU isn't what it used to be, but you can take what you need from their information to help you make an informed decision.
I recently bought a new American Standard toilet in spite of reading a number of bad reviews on it from existing users. I didn't encounter a single issue with installation and assembly as had been described, and have had none of the maintenance issues that were also mentioned.
As is true with just about all appliances made today, they're not built as well as they used to be, and this includes disposers. I'll respectfully suggest that your first mistake was to replace a unit that failed after a year with the exact same type.
Check on line for reviews and see if that helps you decide. Generally speaking, the sites such as "epinions" and others tend to have a lot more negative reviews than positive. Bad news is readily shared, but when people are satisfied they aren't as motivated to go to the trouble of posting. On most review sites it's easy to discern that user error is the reason for failure, but it does take some sifting through the posts to form your own educated opinion.
Sometimes you can get linked to Consumer Reports reviews without having to pay to subscribe. CU isn't what it used to be, but you can take what you need from their information to help you make an informed decision.
I recently bought a new American Standard toilet in spite of reading a number of bad reviews on it from existing users. I didn't encounter a single issue with installation and assembly as had been described, and have had none of the maintenance issues that were also mentioned.
jakeseacrest
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I too have been thinking of replacing mine. Can't decide between an ISE Evolution or a Waste King 3 bolt mount type.
Disposers.
ISE disposers are Badgers, Whirlpools, Maytags, Kitchen Aids, and I don't know what else. My store sells WP, MT, & KA. Of these, I'll go with KA in 3/4 or 1 horsepower because they are quieter and have stainless innards. Reply to this post, I can sell and ship at wholesale to AW members.
Dave
ISE disposers are Badgers, Whirlpools, Maytags, Kitchen Aids, and I don't know what else. My store sells WP, MT, & KA. Of these, I'll go with KA in 3/4 or 1 horsepower because they are quieter and have stainless innards. Reply to this post, I can sell and ship at wholesale to AW members.
Dave
It's been quite awhile that I can't remember when CR last rated disposers.
Consumer Reports online rates disposers.
Waste King Legend 8000 ($230) is the top-scoring model with an 84. Speed, fineness, and handling of vegetable scraps all rate an Excellent. Noise, only Good.
Waste King Gourmet SS3300 ($165) also gets an 84.
ISE Evolution Compact C rates a 76, with above-mentioned tests all rating Very Good.
Other Waste King and ISE models were at the bottom of the ratings, so purchase by model, not brand.[this post was last edited: 8/14/2012-18:42]
Waste King Legend 8000 ($230) is the top-scoring model with an 84. Speed, fineness, and handling of vegetable scraps all rate an Excellent. Noise, only Good.
Waste King Gourmet SS3300 ($165) also gets an 84.
ISE Evolution Compact C rates a 76, with above-mentioned tests all rating Very Good.
Other Waste King and ISE models were at the bottom of the ratings, so purchase by model, not brand.[this post was last edited: 8/14/2012-18:42]
ISE Evolution Compact C
We have an ISE Evolution Compact C; purchased it new last year along with a new Bosch dishwasher. It's very quiet and does its work without muss or fuss. It was worth the extra money for its higher-quality materials and silence. Badgers can give decent service, but you have to treat them carefully and plan for the day (five years) they finally give up the ghost. I wouldn't buy a Badger unless I planned to move within a short time.
We have an ISE Evolution Compact C; purchased it new last year along with a new Bosch dishwasher. It's very quiet and does its work without muss or fuss. It was worth the extra money for its higher-quality materials and silence. Badgers can give decent service, but you have to treat them carefully and plan for the day (five years) they finally give up the ghost. I wouldn't buy a Badger unless I planned to move within a short time.
Best New Disposers
All come from ISE, it is always best to get one with all SS grind components for better durability as all the less expensive models have only galvanized steel parts and the rust at the edges very quickly and dull very quickly which causes the gap between the turntable and stationary blades to get larger which results in lots of clogged drains. Beyond getting SS grind components if you pay more you get a little quieter operation and faster grinding.
I would not buy a disposer from any other manufacturer, all the other junk uses plastic sink flanges and pot-metal mounting components, to say nothing of the little grind chambers and cheap little noisy hi-speed DC motors.
All come from ISE, it is always best to get one with all SS grind components for better durability as all the less expensive models have only galvanized steel parts and the rust at the edges very quickly and dull very quickly which causes the gap between the turntable and stationary blades to get larger which results in lots of clogged drains. Beyond getting SS grind components if you pay more you get a little quieter operation and faster grinding.
I would not buy a disposer from any other manufacturer, all the other junk uses plastic sink flanges and pot-metal mounting components, to say nothing of the little grind chambers and cheap little noisy hi-speed DC motors.
My first apartment
came with a Badger 5. It handled everything I threw its way. It may have been newer. Next two apartments had GE/Whirlaway disposers, which were adequate, I guess. This current apartment does not have a disposer. I could, if I put it in myself, or had it put in. However, my kitchen sink's drain is about 30 yards from the intersection with the sewer, and I am also doubtful about the pitch.....
I do miss having a disposer at times, though.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
came with a Badger 5. It handled everything I threw its way. It may have been newer. Next two apartments had GE/Whirlaway disposers, which were adequate, I guess. This current apartment does not have a disposer. I could, if I put it in myself, or had it put in. However, my kitchen sink's drain is about 30 yards from the intersection with the sewer, and I am also doubtful about the pitch.....
I do miss having a disposer at times, though.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
dustin92
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Ours is an"evergrind" ½hp and seems to handle everything I have put down it.. now the plumbing beyond it is another story... the pipes run uphill! So it clogs extremely easy, I only use the disposal for scraping plates after meals.
Kenmore disposers are also made by ISE.
ISE "Badger" disposer arre a "builders" brand.Homebuilders and apartment operators love them because they are CHEAP-they are bought in huge quantities.so far I would give a nod to higher end ISE disposers.They do shred more finely--but SLOW.Use a lot of water and time.I so miss the Maytag disposers-when they were MAYTAG-and the machines with CAST Nickel steel shredders.These lasted and shredded better.and of course older GE universal and induction motor disposers that had the Carboloy shredders.Older Waste Kings were good-if you find a "NOS" of these buy it as opposed to new ones.Old appliance and hardware stores good places to look.The PM DC machines wouldn't be so bad if they were equipped with better shred rings.-and Carboloy shredders!It seems disposer quality has gone down.After all they are "disposable" machines!-except of course commercial ones.If you are going to live in the place for along while---a small ISE COMMERCIAL disposer may be the best bet-it may cost several hundred to $1000 but worth it!The commercial ones are built best-better than household models.And the commercial ones can be repaired.Grainger catalogs list ISE commercial disposers.Just have to order a home sized sink flange to go with it.
lotsosudz
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Its what you feed it!
What usually deems a disposal useless, is that it's dull. Waste King used to put in its manuals, that ice cubes, egg shells, and chicken bones are good for disposers.When we moved into our current house, the old Kenmore was dull as can be.
I started throwing those items down it's throat, along with a few pieces of small broken glass, and now it takes anything you throw at it. Glass is what plumbers use to resharpen the blades. No thick pieces, just like the sides of a regular drinking glass will do, and not too many. Again, ours works like it's new! Use your discretion.
What usually deems a disposal useless, is that it's dull. Waste King used to put in its manuals, that ice cubes, egg shells, and chicken bones are good for disposers.When we moved into our current house, the old Kenmore was dull as can be.
I started throwing those items down it's throat, along with a few pieces of small broken glass, and now it takes anything you throw at it. Glass is what plumbers use to resharpen the blades. No thick pieces, just like the sides of a regular drinking glass will do, and not too many. Again, ours works like it's new! Use your discretion.
Despite what the plumbers say---NEVER,EVER, put glass into your disposer--the shredded glass DOSEN'T "Float" down your plumbing-it will cause clogs.and the glass will erode the shredders in the disposer.For disposers that have had "soft" diets-put chicken bones in them,or ice cubes.shredding these items will clean the shredders.and on the glass-disposers can throw stuff back at you---I certainly don't want a peice of glass thrown back at me!!!Esp if it gets into your eye!I have had a disposer throw out a peice of bone it was grinding.the peice was thrown out with some force-lucky I wasn't in the way.
