Miele Heat Pump Dryer
Here's the Miele cycle chart (translated)
Here's the Miele cycle chart (translated)
New Dryer by Bosch: EcoLogixx 7 with Heat Pump Technology
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I wonder if such dryers will be introduced in the US with matching American dryer capacity? Would these even need to be 220 volt machines?
Would these even need to be 220 volt machines?
Well, the AEG/Electrolux is 1350 watts, Blomberg 1200 watts, Bosch/Siemens says max. 2100 watts, V-Zug 1500 watts, Miele doesn't say. The V-Zug Unimatic is 2100 watts, too but requires 400 volts instead of 230. All but the AEG (6 amps) require 10 amps.
Well, the AEG/Electrolux is 1350 watts, Blomberg 1200 watts, Bosch/Siemens says max. 2100 watts, V-Zug 1500 watts, Miele doesn't say. The V-Zug Unimatic is 2100 watts, too but requires 400 volts instead of 230. All but the AEG (6 amps) require 10 amps.
It's really great that the AEG and Blomberg dryers draw that little power, that means you can hook them up on one circuit. No extra investments for a new line for the dryer and still you can use the washer and the dryer at the same time.
Miele T 8627 WP
Today i' ve seen it in a store at 1749 € (that is 700 € more than BSH and AEG heat pump tumblers)
With that difference one can buy a BOL 1000 serie washer...
just noticed that in UK and IE euro-toploaders are rare.
Wonder why
Carlo
http://www.miele.co.uk/products/Features.aspx?pid=815
Today i' ve seen it in a store at 1749 € (that is 700 € more than BSH and AEG heat pump tumblers)
With that difference one can buy a BOL 1000 serie washer...
just noticed that in UK and IE euro-toploaders are rare.
Wonder why
Carlo
http://www.miele.co.uk/products/Features.aspx?pid=815
askomiele
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Miele has the classical filtersystem, Bosch/Siemens has the selfcleaning condensor unit. Have no idea why, but I'm a big miele fan, still the Bosch Siemens is more interesting to me. When I go babysitting at a friends house, I always take a look at here condensor unit in her dryer. Every time it's not cleaned. So the bosch/siemens unit has an advantage upon the miele that it always works optimal. Or not?
Heatpump hot water in Oz?
Hi Brisnat,
What product is that? My dad was involved in that technology in the 80's, but I thought it had completely died.
There's a Japanese firm that's doing heat-pump drying too ... can't remember which one though ... so there seems to be a trend to look for more energy efficient methods.
Nick
Hi Brisnat,
What product is that? My dad was involved in that technology in the 80's, but I thought it had completely died.
There's a Japanese firm that's doing heat-pump drying too ... can't remember which one though ... so there seems to be a trend to look for more energy efficient methods.
Nick
Heat pumps do really work
Sometimes in summer I stay at a camping site in Slovenia (Trnovo ob Soçij, close to Kobarid). They have a 600 L. hot water tank run by an heat pump with a 0.8 KW motor. If resistors were used, they'd to have 8 KW power to have same performance.
They have it since a decade at least.
Here in Italy NOW we are ABOUT to begin this trend....
Carlo
Sometimes in summer I stay at a camping site in Slovenia (Trnovo ob Soçij, close to Kobarid). They have a 600 L. hot water tank run by an heat pump with a 0.8 KW motor. If resistors were used, they'd to have 8 KW power to have same performance.
They have it since a decade at least.
Here in Italy NOW we are ABOUT to begin this trend....
Carlo
Self clean feature : how does it work ?
Periodical reverse blowing ?
AEG WP trockner came out on swiss market earlier than anywhere else, cause there were the ones by schulthess.ch and v-zug.ch . I bet the AEG WP is made by Therma
Carlo
Periodical reverse blowing ?
AEG WP trockner came out on swiss market earlier than anywhere else, cause there were the ones by schulthess.ch and v-zug.ch . I bet the AEG WP is made by Therma
Carlo
Well, as far as I know it was discontinued because of disappointing sales for this machine. Notwithstanding its obvious advantage in energy efficiency, people seemed to be put off by the higher price and the need for installing a gas supply to the machine.
"Self clean feature : how does it work? Periodical reverse blowing?"
Look at my YouTube videos. The dryer flushes the condensor with condensed water. It's the second and third video in my "Dryers" playlist.
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=37A60A7C32AF02BD
Look at my YouTube videos. The dryer flushes the condensor with condensed water. It's the second and third video in my "Dryers" playlist.
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=37A60A7C32AF02BD
Hi Nick,
It's Dux, Edwards, Saxon, Rheem, they all now have different flavours. I think it's from 2010 in Queensland where you wont be able to fit a Resistance heater for hot water into a new dwelling.
They're quite common now and after the rebates dont cost any more than a Resistance heater. The big advantage they have over solar, is that they are much cheaper to install in an existing dwelling.
Cheers
Nathan
http://www.dux.com.au/products.php?name=D2FH00000C
It's Dux, Edwards, Saxon, Rheem, they all now have different flavours. I think it's from 2010 in Queensland where you wont be able to fit a Resistance heater for hot water into a new dwelling.
They're quite common now and after the rebates dont cost any more than a Resistance heater. The big advantage they have over solar, is that they are much cheaper to install in an existing dwelling.
Cheers
Nathan
http://www.dux.com.au/products.php?name=D2FH00000C
Thanks, Nathan
You can tell I live in an apartment and have never bought a hot water service! I didn't realise heat pump technology had made it to market. Back in the 80's, it was a hard slog to get anybody to pay attention because fuel (gas) was cheap. It's good to see an idea that was initially ahead of its time finally gain acceptance.
Nick
You can tell I live in an apartment and have never bought a hot water service! I didn't realise heat pump technology had made it to market. Back in the 80's, it was a hard slog to get anybody to pay attention because fuel (gas) was cheap. It's good to see an idea that was initially ahead of its time finally gain acceptance.
Nick
Oh, okay!
Well, there's a pipe running from the water tank to the condensor (the front of it). Several times during the drying cycle, a little flap opens and lets the collected water run down the pipe and then through the condensor.
Well, there's a pipe running from the water tank to the condensor (the front of it). Several times during the drying cycle, a little flap opens and lets the collected water run down the pipe and then through the condensor.
Zug
That was the great feature I noticed with the V-Zug heat Pump dryer, no filter condenser to take out & clean, just a drop down door with an air clean filter sponge!!!
AND, a non vented dryer that doesnt sound like a train with all those blower fans!!!...
I do like the way the Siemens flushes the used water through, well thought out!!!, nice vids, Mike
That was the great feature I noticed with the V-Zug heat Pump dryer, no filter condenser to take out & clean, just a drop down door with an air clean filter sponge!!!
AND, a non vented dryer that doesnt sound like a train with all those blower fans!!!...
I do like the way the Siemens flushes the used water through, well thought out!!!, nice vids, Mike
rolls_rapide
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"a little flap opens ..."
But surely there will be insufficient cleaning ability in this water? Won't you still have to periodically remove the condenser unit and blast water through it?
Speaking of driers, my Zanussi condenser just last week snapped its belt; new belt on order. Meanwhile I am using a small compact vented drier branded 'Electra' (Creda/Hotpoint machine by another name, before Indesit got its mitts on the companies).
I am shocked! The little vented drier dries admittedly a smaller load, but it does it in half the time! And the room is cooler too.
When the condenser machine finally does bite the dust, I'm tempted to go back to vented.
But surely there will be insufficient cleaning ability in this water? Won't you still have to periodically remove the condenser unit and blast water through it?
Speaking of driers, my Zanussi condenser just last week snapped its belt; new belt on order. Meanwhile I am using a small compact vented drier branded 'Electra' (Creda/Hotpoint machine by another name, before Indesit got its mitts on the companies).
I am shocked! The little vented drier dries admittedly a smaller load, but it does it in half the time! And the room is cooler too.
When the condenser machine finally does bite the dust, I'm tempted to go back to vented.
V-Train that doesn't sound like a train *LOL*
Mike, I do believe it....with such a price that makes miele best trade off price/performance *LOL*
Anyway - as I live quite close to the swiss border - I was told also Zug dishwashers are very reliable.
Mike, I do believe it....with such a price that makes miele best trade off price/performance *LOL*
Anyway - as I live quite close to the swiss border - I was told also Zug dishwashers are very reliable.
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