New Dryer by Bosch: EcoLogixx 7 with Heat Pump Technology

[logixx]

Bosch/Siemens have come out with a new dryer on September first: the EcoLogixx 7 with heat pump. It uses 40 % less energy than what is required for A-class energy efficiency – so approx. 1.5 kWh for a full cycle.

It’s based upon their current line of dryers, sold under the Axxis name in the US. It’s got a 4 cu.ft. drum and all the regular cycles. It’s most interesting innovation is the self-cleaning condenser: during the drying cycle, water from the tank that collects the condensed water is flushed down through the condenser – up to four times during a drying cycle.

It retails for 1100 Euros -> USD 1500.

Here’s the link to a promotional video I copied from Bosch. It’s in German but I added a translation.

Alex

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=37A60A7C32AF02BD

 

[logixx]

Here is the Siemens video

Have added it to my YouTube playlist.

 

[electron800]

well if they turn out to be unreliable

at least we know we can use them as a plant holder =]

Matt

 

[peterh770]

An oversized dehumidifier? Would the energy draw be all that less than a conventional vented electric dryer? How long to dry x pounds of y fabric that had been spun out at what speed?

 

[brisnat81]

It will be great to see if they can get enough people to spend the money and keep the technology alive.

Peter, we have Heat Pump hotwater tanks here now. They usually draw around 1200watts and have a recovery time to 60degC of around 2 hours for 300L. They now can operate down to temps of around -5degC which makes them suitable for most of Australia. It essentially runs a heat pump smaller than most window unit airconditioners. (2400watts)

Compared to the 4800watts resistance heat to achieve the same recovery, it uses a lot less energy.

 

[askomiele]

Miele announced also the outcomming of their heat-pump dryer. You can download the manual already on the german site

 

[rolls_rapide]

And AEG (Electrolux)...

...have had one for years.

I must say, the self-cleaning condenser unit sounds a nice idea.

I should imagine that the current craze for energy efficiency and in light of high energy bills, has probably given manufacturers a bloody good kick up the backside, to get the latest energy-saving technology out to the consumer as quickly as possible.

I really hope they're a success.

 

[launderess]

Sounds like an interesting idea, especially for Europe where so many homes cannot have a vented dryer. Condenser dryers aren't a big draw in the United States, so wonder if they ever would be imported.

Come to think of it don't think there is a American condenser dryer, nor has there been one in quite some time. GM/Frigidaire had them, as did several other brands, even recall one in the home ec class room at school, but even then the teacher hated the thing because it forced her to use water during water shortages.

L.

 

[logixx]

Energy and time

Here's a comparison chart between the Bosch Heat Pump Dryer, a conventional Bosch condenser and a vented Bosch dryer.

 

[foraloysius]

The differences are significant! But the technology is far more complicated, I'm worried that those dryers are more repair prone. I still wonder if it will pay for itself.

Miele has a see through drawing on it's website, here it is.

Askomiele, what is the model number of the Miele heatpumpdryer? I can't find any number on Miele's website.

 

[logixx]

"what is the model number of the Miele heatpumpdryer? I can't find any number on Miele's website."

I just tried to download it but it's not available... I'd be interested in the manual as well. According to the picture above - if you download the enlarged version - the model is: SOFTTRONIC T 8626 C WP. If you enter it into the search matrix it'll come up with the correct result but no link to download the manual.

 

[foraloysius]

Thank you Alexander, I didn't download the bigger picture, didn't cross my mind to do that. The manual is indeed not available yet apparently. I'm looking forward to it too.

 

[chestermikeuk]

VZUG Adora TLS WP Heat Pump Dryer....!!!!

Heres the VZUG version, apparently its the most efficient in its class!!!! (according to topten.info) and its very quiet, pumps the water into the drain, only a sponge filter to clean along with the fluff filter....one to watch me thinks!!!

Boasting Pivoting Electronic Control Panel, 6kg Load, drum volume 103ltrs,Pump to Drain Facility or link drain with washer, Aprox 90mins to dry on cottons spun at ZUG 1600rpm.

http://www.topten.info/modules/ProductGroups/showDetail.php?plid=672&pid[]=6795

 

[chestermikeuk]

Heat Pump Dryers...!!!

Heres the Heat Pump diagram for the VZUG Adora TSL WP, looks much simpler than other styles...

http://www.topten.info/index.php?page=one_familiy_house&aid=156&adir=1&direction=horizontal

 

[rolls_rapide]

VZUG?

Which shore does it hail from?

 

[foraloysius]

V-Zug or Zug as the appliances are called is from Switzerland.

 

[mielabor]

Wow, for years there was only one heat pump dryer (AEG) on the marked and now we seem to become flooded by them. I still regret that gas dryers never made it as they are even more efficient. When I was ready for the Miele gas dryer it had just been discontinued :-(

 

[logixx]

Here's the cycle and consumption chart for the domestic V-Zug heat pump dryer and the instruction manual.

http://www.vzug.ch/v-zug/medien.nsf...l_wp.pdf/$FILE/j296_13d-2_en_adora_tsl_wp.pdf

 

[hoovermatic]

Self Cleaning

as someone who has owned a condensing dryer for years a self cleaning condenser is a dream come true! One of my most hated chores!!

 

[toggleswitch2]

Interesting thnks for posting this!

hmmmm I wonder if the air flow could be diverted temprarily/on demand to have a

1- vented dryer
2- room air conditioner

For the summer.

Win-wIn for those that can not hang laundry out.

 

[logixx]

Miele Heat Pump Dryer

Here's the Miele cycle chart (translated)

 

[pulsator]

I wonder if such dryers will be introduced in the US with matching American dryer capacity? Would these even need to be 220 volt machines?

 

[logixx]

Would these even need to be 220 volt machines?

Well, the AEG/Electrolux is 1350 watts, Blomberg 1200 watts, Bosch/Siemens says max. 2100 watts, V-Zug 1500 watts, Miele doesn't say. The V-Zug Unimatic is 2100 watts, too but requires 400 volts instead of 230. All but the AEG (6 amps) require 10 amps.

 

[foraloysius]

It's really great that the AEG and Blomberg dryers draw that little power, that means you can hook them up on one circuit. No extra investments for a new line for the dryer and still you can use the washer and the dryer at the same time.

 

[favorit]

Miele T 8627 WP

Today i' ve seen it in a store at 1749 € (that is 700 € more than BSH and AEG heat pump tumblers)
With that difference one can buy a BOL 1000 serie washer...

just noticed that in UK and IE euro-toploaders are rare.
Wonder why

Carlo

http://www.miele.co.uk/products/Features.aspx?pid=815

 

[askomiele]

Miele has the classical filtersystem, Bosch/Siemens has the selfcleaning condensor unit. Have no idea why, but I'm a big miele fan, still the Bosch Siemens is more interesting to me. When I go babysitting at a friends house, I always take a look at here condensor unit in her dryer. Every time it's not cleaned. So the bosch/siemens unit has an advantage upon the miele that it always works optimal. Or not?

 

[aussie-plugs]

Heatpump hot water in Oz?

Hi Brisnat,

What product is that? My dad was involved in that technology in the 80's, but I thought it had completely died.

There's a Japanese firm that's doing heat-pump drying too ... can't remember which one though ... so there seems to be a trend to look for more energy efficient methods.

Nick

 

[favorit]

Heat pumps do really work

Sometimes in summer I stay at a camping site in Slovenia (Trnovo ob Soçij, close to Kobarid). They have a 600 L. hot water tank run by an heat pump with a 0.8 KW motor. If resistors were used, they'd to have 8 KW power to have same performance.
They have it since a decade at least.
Here in Italy NOW we are ABOUT to begin this trend....

Carlo

 

[favorit]

Self clean feature : how does it work ?

Periodical reverse blowing ?

AEG WP trockner came out on swiss market earlier than anywhere else, cause there were the ones by schulthess.ch and v-zug.ch . I bet the AEG WP is made by Therma

Carlo

 

[favorit]

mielabor - T 478 G

I guess they have discontinued because of
- latest euronorms about safety in gaz devices .
- It didn' to go undercounter/stacked