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My sister is once again having to replace an ISE Badger that has gone dead.  She had a home warranty for years and they kept replacing one garbage (adj.) disposal with another garbage (adj.) disposal.  She quit the warranty a while back and now she's on her own to replace the dead Badger.

 

Her disposers don't ever see hard use.  Generally they only handle scraps that get away from her.  She has chickens so most fresh vegetable waste gets fed to them.  A neighbor told her that a 1.25 HP Frigidaire (model FF13DISPC1) got the nod from Consumer Reports.  That particular model is going for $159 on Amazon and has a 12-year warranty.  Reviews are mostly positive.  The splash guard is removable which I think is a big plus.  One consistent comment is that the unit is quite heavy, so one would hope that means durable as well.

 

Can anyone advise on the Frigidaire or another make that's a better choice?  She won't want to spend big bucks on an ISE Evolution just based on how little she uses a disposer.

 

Link to Amazon listing provided below.

 

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Hi Ralph, I would have her get another ISE, but get one with SS grinding components, usually you will find these at around $150 or so price level.

 

I would absolutely skip the Chinese junk like the FD you posted, these have cheap hi speed motors and small capacity chambers, these are sold under the Moen name as well, we seem to be replacing a lot of these disposers in just a few years.

 

These cheap little units do not have any way to unjam them like ISE models, we end up throwing them away when they get something like a screw or a penny caught in them, the tiny blades sometimes break off or bend, either way the unit is done.

 

For best life and durability a disposer needs to be used, she should grind up heavy stuff in it every week such as fruit rinds, chicken bones and what ever else the chickens will not eat.

 

John L.
 
California Composting Law

In California we are required to separate food from other garbage and put it our Green Waste cans, now called Organics Cans. As Consumer Reports mentions, garbage disposals feed the waste to the municipal sewage disposal plants which are more efficient than composting. This new system is a big change for most people and there is no enforcement yet. Eventually they will fine people $500 for not doing it correctly. I am considering a larger garbage disposal that will do a better job. Currently I have the ISE Badger, my second one. I do not use it very much just dump the food scraps in the garbage can.
 
I won't even do a gd. It's such a stinky mess. You can't clean the inside of the chamber. Plus I'm on septic, but even if I weren't it's hard on the pipe system.
I've removed more than one gd and put in a standard sink drain to replace it.

I put all food scraps in the freezer, then thaw, then compost.
 
Reply #5

 

Hi Brad, its a shame that someone that likes ? appliances does not know how to use them and just spews out lies about them.

 

A disposer never stinks if used properly.

 

A disposer keeps drain lines cleaner then no disposer.

 

A disposer is GOOD for a septic system.

 

To each their own but as my business partner Jason and I often joke, it no wonder so many people live alone with all the crazy ideas out there. 

 

A disposer also uses less electricity than freezing garbage in your freezer [ talk about gross, I would never put a lot of the stuff I put down a disposer in my freezer with my food ]

 

John l.
 
Thanks for the replies (except the one I am happily oblivious to that John referenced directly above).  I couldn't find anything on Costco's site resembling the A.S./Titan in the provided PDF.

 

I checked for ISE Evolution models (per ISE, their only series with SS grinding components) on Amazon and found one for a little over $200, but specs are vague on the grinding materials and it also indicated that it's made in China, which goes counter to what ISE claims on their web site.

 

I'm going to advise my sister to take a pass on the Frigidaire, but will have to do more investigating on what's what between the ISE site and Amazon.
 
oh John

I see you still haven't pursued the definition and practice of 'tact'.

Speaking of your lies John: You can Google search your assertions. Most are common sense and others are advice from industry experts in the plumbing field and those who install septic systems.

Lots of people use their gd "properly" and the gd still stinks
BECAUSE people can't access the sidewalls of said gd so it can be thoroughly cleaned of debri. That's because a gd is a poorly designed product.

A gd adds more bacteria debri to a septic tank that a tank may not be able to process in time. It's also adding shredded food particles that can flow through to the leach field where it can plug up said field causing it to fail. Either way, whether cleaning out a septic tank more often or having to dig up and replace a failed leach field is added expense and bother.

Food scraps are still considered food, John. What's kept in the freezer typically?

Apparently those people who put their children's stuffed animals in the freezer to kill bacteria have a level of maturity and understanding of what a freezer is that it allows them a freedom you've yet to discover.


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Well Brad, I don't have an odor problem with my garbage disposal. Periodically, I fill up the sink side with the garbage disposal with warm to hot water and Dawn Dishwashing liquid. ONce sink is full, I turn the machine on and pull off the sink stopper and let the water swirl and flow throughout the grbage dispoal. No smell whatsoever!!!
 
Bob, I used to do that too years ago but when you consider it, there's still no guarantee that it will clean everything out.

When I had rental properties they all had disposals and they all had build up in them.

Well intentioned perhaps, the garbage disposal may have been an attempt at dealing with food waste but.... when you consider how bad the drain systems were back in the 50s or whenever the disposal was created it's like.... they weren't thinking very far down the line on those.

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Green bins are so much better at disposing of organics. After all, you wouldn't put grass, dead flowers, and leaves in your disposal.

The green bins handle it all and make a giant compost pile saving all these things from going in the landfill or heaven forbid, the sewer system.

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We got a garbage disposer put in soon after moving into this house in August, 1957. It was a Waste King Pulverator. When it quit sometime in the late 60's, it was replaced with an ISE model 77. That lasted until sometime in the early 90's, when an ISE Badger was installed. That cheap thing lasted until 2002,then started leaking, and quit a few months later. I removed it, and reconnected the drain. I didn't replace it because I planned to renovate in a couple years. Due to unforseen circumstances, I still don't have my permanent kitchen finished, so don't currently have a disposer. I don't ever remember any of them having a foul odor, except the last after it began leaking. I suppose if one needs scrubbed, a round toilet brush would do the job.

If BW doesn't like disposers, then he shouldn't own one. It's not his place to tell the rest of us whether to or not. Guess there's always those who will say the blue sky is orange, deep water is shallow, etc. I have to contend with a woman like that in the hiking group. Maybe they should meet - they might like each other.
 
Ralph,

 

I believe the American Standard (1.25 hp) that Costco sells today is equivalent to the Titan I mentioned. This is supported by numerous Google searches that turn up American Standard along with Titan. My conclusion is that Joneca out of Anaheim, CA makes/made the Titan and has licensed the design to American Standard.

 

And here's a link to the American Standard equivalent to the Titan:

 


 

 
 
Reply #14

 

That disposer is a piece of crap, it uses a small high speed motor, they even admitted in the description that it can not handle large bones, they don't say anything about build quality.

 

It looks like the same Chinese crap.

 

All you really need in a disposer is a strong induction motor and SS grinding components.

 

John L.
 
#16

Greg, John is not a walking library of facts who's "word is law". lol

He speaks from experience, bias, and opinion like the rest of us.

The internet is a repository of much more reliable information. Don't fear it.
 
The American Standard Model  <span data-model-number="ASD-1250">ASD-1250 food disposer (same as the Titan):
</span>

 

ASD-1250 1¼ Horsepower Garbage Disposer

<ul>
<li>1¼ Horsepower</li>
<li>Bio Shield® Anti-Microbial Agent: Molded throughout provides protection against odor-causing bacterial growth</li>
<li>Removable Splash Guard with Bio Shield</li>
<li>3-Bolt Mounting System for Easy Replacement</li>
<li>Insulated Sound Shell</li>
<li>Silver Guard®: the unique feature that captures most metal objects before they enter the disposer chamber</li>
<li>Corrosion Proof Grind Chamber and Drain Housing</li>
<li>Attached Power Cord & Plug</li>
<li>Less Jamming (no dejaming wrench necessary)</li>
<li>Septic Safe</li>
<li>Measures 15.5” High x 8.7” Wide</li>
<li>10 Year Limited Warranty</li>
</ul>
From the operation manual:

 

<span dir="ltr" style="left: 46.6667px; top: 871.051px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.25705);">The Anti-Jam Swivel Impellers make a clicking</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 46.6667px; top: 889.385px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.33641);">sound as they initially swing into place. This</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 46.6667px; top: 907.718px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.26199);">indicates normal operation.</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 50.84px; top: 929.651px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1);">A.</span> <span dir="ltr" style="left: 82.6667px; top: 929.651px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.01867);">Remove sink stopper. Turn on a medium flow of cold</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 82.6667px; top: 947.985px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.99985);">water.</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 51.76px; top: 969.918px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1);">B.</span> <span dir="ltr" style="left: 82.6667px; top: 969.918px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.985829);">Turn switch to ON position; your motor is turning at full</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 82.6667px; top: 988.251px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.01025);">speed and ready to use.</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 51.76px; top: 1010.18px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.9995);">C.</span> <span dir="ltr" style="left: 82.6667px; top: 1010.18px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.988552);">Scrape in food waste. Down the drain go table scraps,</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 82.6667px; top: 1028.52px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.04798);">peelings, rinds, seeds, pits, small bones and coffee</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 82.6667px; top: 1046.85px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.08991);">grounds. To speed up food waste disposal, cut or</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 82.6667px; top: 1065.18px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.04937);">break up large bones, rinds and cobs. Large bones</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 82.6667px; top: 1083.52px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.02177);">and fibrous waste require considerable grinding time</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 533.5px; top: 871.251px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.00274);">and are more easily thrown away with other trash. Do</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 533.5px; top: 889.585px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.05987);">not be alarmed that the disposer slows down while</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 533.5px; top: 907.918px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.05227);">grinding. The disposer is actually increasing torque</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 533.5px; top: 926.251px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.01785);">(grinding</span> <span dir="ltr" style="left: 611.407px; top: 926.251px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.0139);">power)</span> <span dir="ltr" style="left: 674.963px; top: 926.251px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.00988);">and</span> <span dir="ltr" style="left: 714.937px; top: 926.251px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.01317);">is</span> <span dir="ltr" style="left: 738.993px; top: 926.251px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.01666);">operating</span> <span dir="ltr" style="left: 821.552px; top: 926.251px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.01329);">under</span> <span dir="ltr" style="left: 876.643px; top: 926.251px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.0139);">normal</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 533.5px; top: 944.585px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.999895);">conditions.</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 502.593px; top: 966.518px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.9995);">D.</span> <span dir="ltr" style="left: 533.5px; top: 966.518px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.996421);">Before turning disposer off, let water and disposer run</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 533.5px; top: 984.851px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1);">for</span> <span dir="ltr" style="left: 564.533px; top: 984.851px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.999599);">approximately</span> <span dir="ltr" style="left: 679.85px; top: 984.851px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.999102);">15</span> <span dir="ltr" style="left: 709.967px; top: 984.851px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.999866);">seconds</span> <span dir="ltr" style="left: 783.617px; top: 984.851px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1);">after</span> <span dir="ltr" style="left: 828.55px; top: 984.851px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.999431);">shredding</span> <span dir="ltr" style="left: 913.317px; top: 984.851px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.999438);">or</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 533.5px; top: 1003.18px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.966524);">grinding stops. This assures that all waste is thoroughly</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 533.5px; top: 1021.52px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.00793);">flushed through trap and drain.</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 502.593px; top: 1043.45px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1);">E.</span> <span dir="ltr" style="left: 533.5px; top: 1043.45px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.00972);">It is not recommended to use hot water while running</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 533.5px; top: 1061.78px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.00516);">disposer. Cold water will keep waste and fats solid so</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 533.5px; top: 1080.12px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.00746);">disposer can flush away particles.</span>

 

<span dir="ltr" style="left: 46.6667px; top: 1116.22px; font-size: 20px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.00967);">TIPS FOR SUCCESSFUL OPERATION</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 50.84px; top: 1143.08px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1);">A.</span> <span dir="ltr" style="left: 82.6667px; top: 1143.08px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.01007);">Be sure disposer is empty before using your dishwasher so it may drain properly.</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 51.7667px; top: 1165.02px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1);">B.</span> <span dir="ltr" style="left: 82.6667px; top: 1165.02px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.01179);">You may want to leave the stopper in the sink drain when not in use to prevent utensils and foreign objects from</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 82.6667px; top: 1183.35px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.00805);">falling into the disposer.</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 51.7667px; top: 1205.28px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.9995);">C.</span> <span dir="ltr" style="left: 82.6667px; top: 1205.28px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.01132);">Your disposer is ruggedly built to give you many years of trouble free service. It will handle all normal food</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 82.6667px; top: 1223.62px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.01104);">wastes, but it will NOT grind or dispose of such items as plastic, tin cans, bottle caps, glass, china, leather, cloth,</span>
<span dir="ltr" style="left: 82.6667px; top: 1241.95px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.00892);">rubber, string, clam and oyster shells, aluminum foil or feathers.</span>

 

<span dir="ltr" style="left: 82.6667px; top: 1241.95px; font-size: 16.6667px; font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(1.00892);">(Link already provided in previous message.)</span>

 
 
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