mrb627
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Saw this last night. Comments?
Malcolm
Malcolm
New GE Dishwasher Line
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mrb627
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Bottle Washer
Malcolm
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georgect
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It looks like GE is really trying to fix their brand...
I really hope they are putting quality back into their name and not just making it pretty.
I can see the innovation.
I just hope they are seriously making quality products with their move to American built appliances.
I really hope they are putting quality back into their name and not just making it pretty.
I can see the innovation.
I just hope they are seriously making quality products with their move to American built appliances.
mrb627
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Me too...
And for Heaven's sake, 52db is not the quietest in the industry. Please stop claiming that. ( Not that GE is the manufacturer making that claim ) But you know who you are... now knock it off!
Malcolm
And for Heaven's sake, 52db is not the quietest in the industry. Please stop claiming that. ( Not that GE is the manufacturer making that claim ) But you know who you are... now knock it off!
Malcolm
mark_wpduet
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Hmmmm
That bottle wash is a G R E A T idea. It looks like it would work really well.
That bottle wash is a G R E A T idea. It looks like it would work really well.
Malcolm
What brand claims that 52db is the quietest?
What brand claims that 52db is the quietest?
iheartmaytag
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I have seen several brands claim to be the quietest.
Bosch and Kitchenaid were both side by side when I bought in Feb, both claiming the quietest wash.
Though I have no comparison to the Bosch I bought the KA and it is darn quiet. Lot more so that the Quiet Series Maytag it replaced; much more than the GE Potscrubber years before, you could hear it outside.
Bosch and Kitchenaid were both side by side when I bought in Feb, both claiming the quietest wash.
Though I have no comparison to the Bosch I bought the KA and it is darn quiet. Lot more so that the Quiet Series Maytag it replaced; much more than the GE Potscrubber years before, you could hear it outside.
This TOL Bosch is the quietest dishwasher on the US market. Price is $1,900.
24" Bar Handle Dishwasher
800 Plus Series- Stainless steel
SHX9ER55UC
39 dBA- Quietest in its Class
3rd Rack for Additional Loading Capacity
ActiveTab™ Tray
InfoLight® Beams on Floor to Indicate Dishwasher is Running
Water Softener Ensures Perfect Shine
AquaStop® Plus Leak Protection Works 24/7
Load Size Sensor
RackMatic® on Upper Rack - 3 Height Adjustments and Up to 9 Possible Rack Positions
24" Bar Handle Dishwasher
800 Plus Series- Stainless steel
SHX9ER55UC
39 dBA- Quietest in its Class
3rd Rack for Additional Loading Capacity
ActiveTab™ Tray
InfoLight® Beams on Floor to Indicate Dishwasher is Running
Water Softener Ensures Perfect Shine
AquaStop® Plus Leak Protection Works 24/7
Load Size Sensor
RackMatic® on Upper Rack - 3 Height Adjustments and Up to 9 Possible Rack Positions
New GE DWs
I will reserve judgement till I install a few and work on them. I can tell you one thing for sure, I installed a mid level plastic tall tub machine a month ago that was made in the US and it was a POS, far worse look and feel and flimsy construction to boot compared to the tall tub DWs that they have been building for the last ten years or so.
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The bottle wash idea is STUPID, my older WP and KA DWs have no problem washing FORTY bottles in one load, I would rate this feature right up there with WPs Turbo-Scrub thing that lets you wash ONE really dirty item if it is in the lower rack facing the rear, I want [ and currently have ] a DW where I can wash a Whole load of really dirty items without worrying where they are positioned in the machine.
I will reserve judgement till I install a few and work on them. I can tell you one thing for sure, I installed a mid level plastic tall tub machine a month ago that was made in the US and it was a POS, far worse look and feel and flimsy construction to boot compared to the tall tub DWs that they have been building for the last ten years or so.
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The bottle wash idea is STUPID, my older WP and KA DWs have no problem washing FORTY bottles in one load, I would rate this feature right up there with WPs Turbo-Scrub thing that lets you wash ONE really dirty item if it is in the lower rack facing the rear, I want [ and currently have ] a DW where I can wash a Whole load of really dirty items without worrying where they are positioned in the machine.
nmassman44
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I don't think that the bottle wash feature is stupid at all. It would come in handy if someone has a baby in the house and they can put the baby bottles in and know they will get sanitized. What one might think is stupid , actually makes sense to another. I am looking forward to seeing new dishwasher in person. The other thing is that reversing wash arm. I wonder if its a spring that's wound and then released to reverse the arm or is there a motor that does it? I wish they brought back the MultiOrbit arm...loved how that arm got into everything. That 4 way arm design is nice. I wonder how the new machine will be rated by CU.
All those jets AND low water usage? I wonder how that'll turn out.
I can understand that customers would think swirling and reversing spray arm work wonders but in reality it doesn't seem to make a difference in cleaning. Our consumer magazine tested dishwashers with both normal spray arms and that AEG (Frigidaire in the US) with the swirling extra wash arm - the regular machines did better (Bosch and Miele).
That Bottle Wash looks like what commercial dishwashers use to clean instruments from dentists etc.
This is Miele's baby bottle holder. Goes in the upper rack.
I can understand that customers would think swirling and reversing spray arm work wonders but in reality it doesn't seem to make a difference in cleaning. Our consumer magazine tested dishwashers with both normal spray arms and that AEG (Frigidaire in the US) with the swirling extra wash arm - the regular machines did better (Bosch and Miele).
That Bottle Wash looks like what commercial dishwashers use to clean instruments from dentists etc.
This is Miele's baby bottle holder. Goes in the upper rack.
iheartmaytag
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I was thinking. . . four arm spray arm, what other manufacturer has that?
GE dishwashers used to be some of the best, then they became some of the not so goods, I hope they are getting serious about being good again.
GE dishwashers used to be some of the best, then they became some of the not so goods, I hope they are getting serious about being good again.
That web site is pretty nice, I have to say.
http://kitchenreimagined.geappliances.com/gekitchen/?icid=HPBanner_KR
http://kitchenreimagined.geappliances.com/gekitchen/?icid=HPBanner_KR
jerrod6
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Yeah I can place bottles in any place in my Dw and have them get clean so not into the bottle washing feature at all.
Now... if the spray pressure of the unit is like a lawn sprinkler at the end of a long run hose, then maybe you have to use this feature to get bottles clean in this DW.
Now... if the spray pressure of the unit is like a lawn sprinkler at the end of a long run hose, then maybe you have to use this feature to get bottles clean in this DW.
nmassman44
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I have that multi purpose rack for my Miele dishwasher and I rarely use it. It stays out of the machine. The only time I ever use it is if I have alot of utensils and I use it for that. On Miele's website that rack cost well over $100...to me way over priced.
Silly Bottle Wash feature
The big problem is it can only wash two bottles, what are you supposed to do keep using the dirty bottle for the kid?, most DW users only run their DW once every other day and once a day at most.
The big problem is it can only wash two bottles, what are you supposed to do keep using the dirty bottle for the kid?, most DW users only run their DW once every other day and once a day at most.
Plus, that Bottle Wash doesn't look too effective. Maybe with detergent in the water one would get better coverage.
(click on the video to get it running)
(click on the video to get it running)
There are four bottle jets on the top rack.
I believe it reverses direction by using a separate water channel in the wash arm. Notice only half of the wash arm works at once. So changing direction would work the same way as switching from washing the upper rack to the bottom rack.
http://bcove.me/tmt0wf1b
I believe it reverses direction by using a separate water channel in the wash arm. Notice only half of the wash arm works at once. So changing direction would work the same way as switching from washing the upper rack to the bottom rack.
http://bcove.me/tmt0wf1b
<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span class="patent-title">Spray tines for a <span class="patent-text-highlight">dishwasher</span> rack</span></span>
http://www.google.com/patents/US201...X&ei=GYwCUuzODujb4QSq7oGwAQ&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAjgU
<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span class="patent-title"><span class="patent-text-highlight">Dishwasher</span> spray assembly</span></span>
<span class="patent-title">http://www.google.com/patents/US201...X&ei=GYwCUuzODujb4QSq7oGwAQ&ved=0CFcQ6AEwBTgU</span>
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http://www.google.com/patents/US201...X&ei=GYwCUuzODujb4QSq7oGwAQ&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAjgU
<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span class="patent-title"><span class="patent-text-highlight">Dishwasher</span> spray assembly</span></span>
<span class="patent-title">http://www.google.com/patents/US201...X&ei=GYwCUuzODujb4QSq7oGwAQ&ved=0CFcQ6AEwBTgU</span>
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mrb627
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multi purpose rack for my Miele dishwasher and I rarely use
I hate all the extra crap that gets piled into a product that you somehow have to find somewhere to store it. Awful!
1) Wine decanter attachment on my Miele dishwasher.
2) Stupid wire shelf in my microwave oven, honestly.
3) Egg bin in the refrigerator.
Enough already!
Malcolm
I hate all the extra crap that gets piled into a product that you somehow have to find somewhere to store it. Awful!
1) Wine decanter attachment on my Miele dishwasher.
2) Stupid wire shelf in my microwave oven, honestly.
3) Egg bin in the refrigerator.
Enough already!
Malcolm
jerrod6
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Reversing direction sounds nice and all but does this actually get anything cleaner faster or better than just one direction? Be interesting to see the wash time on these units. Last week I visited a relative with a new Whirlpool DW. It took 3 to almost 4 hours to complete a cycle and they even ran hot water to it before they started it. I mean.... I dunno.
Miele is going in the same direction. According to Google Patents, they have a reversing spray arm in the making.
The disadvantage, for me, is that most of these systems only work for the lower basket, which only has to wash large pots and so forth. Small items, where swirling jets would be beneficial, still go in the upper rack that has a regular wash arm.
http://www.google.com/patents/EP2601878A2?cl=en&hl=de&dq=DE+103+55+343+B3&ei=B7wCUvPYM8fXPerOgegG
The disadvantage, for me, is that most of these systems only work for the lower basket, which only has to wash large pots and so forth. Small items, where swirling jets would be beneficial, still go in the upper rack that has a regular wash arm.
http://www.google.com/patents/EP2601878A2?cl=en&hl=de&dq=DE+103+55+343+B3&ei=B7wCUvPYM8fXPerOgegG
Extra Crap on Dishwasher Racks
I wholeheartedly agree Malcolm, most of all those fold down dividers and useless plastic things that allow you to load ONE PIECE OF SILVERWARE at a time to me just waste usable space and my time when loading the DW. I usually end up throwing them out and those stupid metal shelves in OTR microwave ovens, I put those directly in the recycling pile when I am installing a new MW in a rental property.
I wholeheartedly agree Malcolm, most of all those fold down dividers and useless plastic things that allow you to load ONE PIECE OF SILVERWARE at a time to me just waste usable space and my time when loading the DW. I usually end up throwing them out and those stupid metal shelves in OTR microwave ovens, I put those directly in the recycling pile when I am installing a new MW in a rental property.
Swirling extra spray arm
Although surely the advertising is at least confusing and misleading (and it is Electrolux speciality to provide confusing and misleading information) the real goal of the swirling spray arm is not exactly cleaning better or faster, but rather beign less "sensitive" to the way the dishwasher is loaded.
This has also been my personal experience when I replaced an Electrolux ESI682 with an AEG F99009, where one of the (not many) differences between the two is the swirling extra spray arm.
Hence it is not a suprise that some consumers review magazines (for what they are worth: not much in my honest opinion) have found no cleaning ability improvement.
Although surely the advertising is at least confusing and misleading (and it is Electrolux speciality to provide confusing and misleading information) the real goal of the swirling spray arm is not exactly cleaning better or faster, but rather beign less "sensitive" to the way the dishwasher is loaded.
This has also been my personal experience when I replaced an Electrolux ESI682 with an AEG F99009, where one of the (not many) differences between the two is the swirling extra spray arm.
Hence it is not a suprise that some consumers review magazines (for what they are worth: not much in my honest opinion) have found no cleaning ability improvement.
volsboy1
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It looks interesting cause I have that problem with my L.G. dishwasher.
Things will get clean on one side but not the other.I guess that it one reason
the old Maytags were such great dishwasher's.You had torrents of water coming from everywhere plus having a powerful motor was a plus also.My L.G. is odd at times
sometimes it cleans better in normal wash mode than pot's and pans.I now load it like a old Maytag with the big stuff on top and small on bottom.All in all my next washer will be a Miele or a old Kitchenaid.Its a hard choice for me cause I love both machines.I have one of those washarms from a Orbit G.E. new that came in a huge box of G.E. junk I snagged off of Ebay...
Things will get clean on one side but not the other.I guess that it one reason
the old Maytags were such great dishwasher's.You had torrents of water coming from everywhere plus having a powerful motor was a plus also.My L.G. is odd at times
sometimes it cleans better in normal wash mode than pot's and pans.I now load it like a old Maytag with the big stuff on top and small on bottom.All in all my next washer will be a Miele or a old Kitchenaid.Its a hard choice for me cause I love both machines.I have one of those washarms from a Orbit G.E. new that came in a huge box of G.E. junk I snagged off of Ebay...
The reversing spray arm seems like a gimmick to me and doesn't really add any value in my eyes. I'm still not big on the American style cutlery tray in GE dishwashers, I prefer a top rack myself.
I think the bottle washing thing is a decent idea, but IMO if they just had special bottle "spikes" on the top rack and a very aggressive top spray arm, I don't really see how there would be a difference in cleaning.
I think the bottle washing thing is a decent idea, but IMO if they just had special bottle "spikes" on the top rack and a very aggressive top spray arm, I don't really see how there would be a difference in cleaning.
spookiness
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I like the bottle wash idea. A bottle with a narrow opening is going to get missed otherwise. This is a good feature that I bet a lot of people will appreciate, what with baby bottles and the popularity of refillable water bottles, etc. Good idea lets hope it works out.
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I have two Miele dishwashers and a single drawer F&P dishwasher in my kitchen. I can run all three at the same time and you don't hear a thing. My Sub-Zero freezer is noisier!
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