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Dumbed-down: The maximum water temp of 105-110 degrees was one of two things that wound up being the deal-breaker with my Frigidaire Immersion Care. That temp is fine for many loads, but not heavily-stained loads of kitchen whites.

If you're wondering: The other deal-breaker was the lack of a true spin after the wash water drained. Again, no problem with many loads, but I use liquid chlorine bleach frequently; that was problematic. I had to catch the cycle right after the wash water drained, reset the machine for a spin, then reset it again for a rinse/spin. That became annoying very quickly.
 
Samsung top loaders in non-American countries also offer freely adjustable water levels. In fact, it seems that only the NA versions have no water level selector.

The manual describes the GE's Whites cycle's temperature as follows: "Combines the hottest water temperature available (based on water heater setting) with longer wash periods to clean and brighten whites." Some of these washers also have a Sanitize with Oxi cycle, which probably also uses the hottest water the machine can get.
 
From the manual describing the Whites cycle (models GTW485 and GTW460)

"Combines the hottest water
temperature available (based on
water heater setting) with longer wash
periods to clean and brighten whites. It
is recommended that a Oxi or chlorine
bleach product appropriate for items
being washed be used with this cycle
to maximize whitening performance.
For models on which there is no
temperature selection on the control
panel, this cycle provides a Hot wash
temperature only."

Is that what I think it is, a real hot wash?
 
WP machines do have a deep fill option. My Kenmore version does too but it's only a single cycle. These new GE's allow you to add water to any cycle. According to the manual you can either have it add water in increments or simply hold the button and it will fill as much as you want. I assume it stops of course at a certain point. I guess we will have to wait and see if anyone buys one :)
 
Watching the video I saw "Warm rinse. Removes any leftover soap residue" on a tag that was panned over briefly (1:42). However, there was no explicit reference to which machine that tag referred. Might this be taken as a tacit acknowledgement that laws of physics are not negotiable and that cold rinses are not the be-all and end-all 100% of the time?

On the website I notice that the control panel of the top-of-the-line machine has a button in the upper right hand corner labelled "warm" without further explanation of function. I didn't see any such button on the panel for the machine with an agitator.

I'm glad the consumer can decide for himself how much water to use. However, it's way too complicated for the average consumer to understand. Maybe that's the point... GE makes the options available for those who decide for themselves how their clothes will be washed, knowing full well that most consumers can't/won't not use them.

All in all, it appears to be a distinct improvement. The biggest issue I have is one that's just my personal preference. I prefer the names of cycles actually at least hint at what the washer physically does. Names like "active wear", "casuals", "jeans", etc. give no information whatsoever, IMO.

Jim
 
I can only find the Warm Rinse button on the wash plate model and even there is says: "Note that rinsing operations may be different with this operation selected in order to effectively apply the warm rinse water to your load." Different operations sounds like a final warm spray rinse to me...
 
Miele WMV960WPS - Hot rinse option

I'm waiting for this to come out in Australia in November. The AUS model has hot and cold water connection and has the ability to do a hot rinse. The rinse temp is set to the incoming hot water temp if you are washing from 60 degrees Celsius or above. If you wash below 60 degrees the rinse water temp is the same as the wash water temp.

You can also now set the rinse water level to maximum and even adjust the Water Plus water level as well.

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Why would the DOJ suddenly take an interest in the GE/ELux deal?  I do not remember everything that went on when Maytag was dissected.  I bet the people of Newton and Herrin remember. Maybe Tag was small beans in comparison to GE's appliance division.  It has been a while but I think I smell  money.  This GE TL machine does look like the best TL option to roll out in a very long time. 

A

 

Edit:  I would like to add it would be a good faith gesture for WP to supply some kind of retrofit to consumers that are stuck with  inferior rinsing machines.

[this post was last edited: 10/8/2015-02:59]
 
Yes, Joe, I think this GE looks far more flexible than most of the other brands out there now. If their Deep Wash switch can get a full tub of tap-hot water, I'd be willing to try it. I wonder how long this model will survive once the Elux deal gets finished? Get one now before they're gone!

Whirlpool had to do some brand and product restructuring when they acquired Maytag. For one, KitchenAid lost it's laundry line completely to ensure fairer competition among all brands. I'm sure there were other tweaks they had to make, but eventually the deal was done. No doubt it will be the same for GE/Elux as well. The smell of money isn't imaginary, there's always power and influence that greases the wheels of capitalism, usually quite liberally.
 
I imagine the DOJ has issues with it because neither company is in financial distress. I believe Maytag was when they were acquired by WP. Just like our airline mergers, they were easier to pass because of financial conditions that would help improve the company and save jobs. In this case though, it's def a concern for competition. I would be very happy to see GE keep their appliance division.
 
In Germany, the AllWater system by Miele is avaible in one MOL model, though, it further allows for the selection of hard water (water for hot intake is cold, but its hardness is greater then the main cold water intake) or soft water (opposite, eg rain water).

With hard water option, all rinses are carried out with the secondary water, while soft water uses the secondary for all but the last fill.
 
I would be very happy too

if GE kept its appliance division! More competition the better!

Same goes for Charter, Comcast, Time Warner and Phone Company cartels.

Here in Lex, there are only two choices for internet - Windstream and Time Warner. That's it!
 
i would love to see this new ge washer model in action like how it deals washing a full load of clothes the deep fill and deep rinse and are the wash water temp dumb down like for exemple if a true hot water wash is needed like bedding is the water hot 2 is warm warter mix with cold water ect and how do the stain pretreat works?
 
Took A Second Look

I was at Lowes this afternoon and decided to take another look at these newer machined by GE. I will say that they didn't seem as flimsy to me in the store as the above posted video makes them out to be. I expect these are more preferable to the cold washing machine recently released by Whirlpool.

Speaking of which, in the scratch and dent aisle, there were 6 of the new Cabrio knobless washing machines. All were customer returns. The cheapest was marked 349. Wonder if Whirlpool will get the message?

Malcolm
 

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