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Hello to all seem in canada they are starting to realise the new ge model washer i wonder if this new model is reliable? and also what is the wash time of each cycle if we have to use the stain treat option and what is the water level when using deep fill and deep rinse?

 
Good Questions!

I don't think anyone has any idea yet, these guys were just put on the market. I'm trying with every breath I have to NOT buy a new set...lol. But I'm very curious about them. Hopefully someone will get one soon so we can hear about it.
 
I've seen a lot of people complain about the "flimsy" baskets and how they bounce around in the cabinet. That's exactly what they are designed to do, instead of causing the whole machine to bounce around in your laundry room!

I'm all for vintage machines like anyone else, but don't criticize something that you haven't tried is all I'm saying. I love my Kenmore 28102 and it can match or out-clean any traditional top load machine. :-P
 
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I think the point of the video has more to do with the flimsy build quality of machines on the market today. Not weather or not they can clean clothing. I think any machine on the market can clean a load of clothes if all the conditions are right.

Malcolm
 
LOL! Yeah I know. Things are flimsy these days. But what can you do? I went with my friend to help her shop for appliances and we stopped at an actual appliance store. She needed a new washer and I showed her the Speed Queen models. She asked me "Why do they have old washers out here?" I said, this isn't old, it's brand new! She was like "Oh". People are attracted to flashy and new. They don't care how flimsy things feel. My neighbor has one so i need one too. That's what manufactures WANT people to think. We're a rare breed here and know good from bad. Unfortunately appliance manufacturers don't like us. LOL. Except Alliance of course :)
 
i think one of the big problem here if i look this is?

the biggest problem with appliances of today compared to the older models direct drive 1990 to ? since i do not know when the last direct drive topload was made and 1950s to direct drive era of top load washers most where made to last today is that when the warrenty is out or if a major repair is needed most appliance company will push us to buy a new set unless someone is good at repairing there old set take for exemple my 11 year old generation 1 duet frontload washer dryer set end of july we had to call in a tech because of a burnt sent in the dryer he inspected the dryer was only a major cleaning that was needed no parts needed replacement i know eventualy my mom and i will have to replace or washer dryer set. But when looking at newer model those leave lots of questions like what is there lifetime use are they good ect.
 
After seeing the video about Lowes appliance stock-will continue to shop for machines at the swap shop-or when the money boat comes in-go to the appliance shop in Kinston and get the SQ!!!!I feel the makers of that video have some very good points-and some of those machines-esp the slide out dispensers--were broken on the Lowes showroom floor.So if you want a machine from their showroom--INSPECT IT CAREFULLY!!!!!The swap shops don't accept these "Plasti-Washers" when folks offer those to the swap shops.Lots of DD KN,WP here.
 
What are manufacturers thinking?

The guys in the vid had a few good points:
- "Yes, I want to add steam to my clothes so I can dry them better!" --the delivery was great.

- Dead detents on control knobs? No excuse. Yes, I KNOW that they're electronic so the presence or absence of dead detents is irrelevant. However it still projects an air of inferior quality/design. But I guess that's been determined not to matter

- Overall flimsiness: I can see why the front panel might be flimsy as it doesn't need to bear any weight. But the lid and dispenser drawers clearly are subject to weight/force/pressure so they must be more sturdy.

I find it interesting that manufacturers don't see a problem with producing products that can't even stand up to customers in a showroom. OTOH, clearly it isn't actually a problem (i.e. hurting sales) else the situation would change. So basically manufacturers have realized that people are essentially stupid and will be more concerned with flashing lights and having 87 options than with what the appliances will physically do or how long the appliance will last.

This incorporates two long-standing bitches I have: First, I'm not that tall. I'm only 185cm (85th %-ile). I'm not a statistical outlier. If I'm hitting my head on something or if I have to stoop to use something ostensibly for use while standing, there's a design problem. Period. No, I don't have long legs. In fact, I have reason to think my femur (and humerus-since we're on the topic) bones are actually a bit short compared to the rest of me. PM me if you want to know why I think that;-)

Second, I'm an ectomorph with mostly slow-twitch muscles. I.e I'm not very strong. If a load bearing part shows signs of physical stress just from me picking it up to look at it or from me opening & closing it, there is a serious problem.

Yet, I seem to run into this with manufactured goods all the time. Am I that weird in that design & quality problems affecting everyday use are "louder" to me than the flashing lights and a gazillion buttons? Am I that unusual in that I generally refuse to replace a non-broken item unless its replacement will make my life easier in some way?

IMO, the guy in the vid hit the nail on the head when he talked about getting pissed off at companies for foisting shit that's clearly not up to the job it's designed for. Joeypete's comment, "People are attracted to flashy and new. They don't care how flimsy things feel. My neighbor has one so I need one too.", matches my observations. What said "people" fail to realize is that companies are calling them stupid sheep because they swallow it hook, line, and sinker.

Then on the flip side, the stupid sheep basically tell companies that they're on the right track. If you read through negative reviews of washers and dryers, it's clear that user error has a role in at least half the problems. The stupid sheep aren't giving companies reason to change.

No wonder the world is falling apart...

Rant done.

Jim
 
I've said it for years warmsecondrinse

and have been taken to task because of it. I share your observations to a T.

And I'll add a few of my own.

*wow, it uses less water. What a bonanza! After all, I've been force fed from all angles that we're running out of water so a machine that uses 2 cups has GOT TO be good because the "authorities" knows. (and I' don't know my ass from my elbow so I'll just be stupid/lazy and let others thing for me)

*Sanitize, steam, and the like. Overwrought mass complication due to manufacturers running out of hooks to convince the gullible shopper that he/she needs this. Never mind that Aunt Mabel did thousands of loads in her Maytag wringer and no one got sick from it. Come to think of it, I never go sick from laundry either.

*A plethora of cycles that will amaze and impress at the same time. Has anyone grown a brain, anyone, and realized that garments are made today mostly from cotton (same stuff that existed in biblical times)with a few cotton/poly blends? Now we have kid dirty, adult dirty, mother-in-law dirty, kitchen dirty, sorta, kinda dirty and well, just plain dirty. Is this really necessary? What, pray tell, is the difference in a ragged cotton shirt that was used to clean the floor vs one that was worn by a kid playing football in the mud? And how has cotton changed from way back when to today that we need all these cycles to clean it?

*I laugh to the point of blowing my lunch when co-workers brag about their shiny new, government approved DW that has......wait......wait........a SANITIZE cycle! Whooopeeee! As in point #2 above, what happened to our brains? Did we turn them off?
POP quiz time;

Q. what exists in every home and on every person's hands?

A. Germs. Some are quite nasty, some are benevolent. But they DO exist.

Thus, you have your algore approved appliance, happily churning away, using 1.5 gallons of water at most, feeling good like Grand Funk Railroad. It's going on 4 hours now since you hit the start button. Of course, thanks to more stupid regulation, your heater energizes for 10 minutes. Which means you have damp dishes. So you get your grimy hands on a grimly towel, remove dishes and proceed to dry them! Then you put them in an UNSANITZED cuppoard, drawer, or someplace else that is probably teaming with germs. So what good is the sanitize cycle when you are putting the so-called sanitized dishes in an unsanitary environment?

*We all want to go green to varying degrees. Me, I go green when it makes sense and it does not break my budget. Well, thanks to piss temperature water, we now have to "clean" our washing machines! Oh boy! Who thunk that one up? So, as part of your regular domestic chores, you dutifully trudge off to your local BIG BOX, buy a "washing machine cleaner" dutifully follow the instructions to "clean" your machine.
How in the hell did my mother manage 18 years on a Whirlpool machine that never had its innards cleaned nor did our laundry suffer because of it?

Let's probe this a bit further shall we?
1. Goobermint dumbs down water temps in washing machines.
2. Water is never hot enough to fully dissolve detergent, dirt, and grime.
3. Machines begin to stink after a while.
4. Consumers complain.
5. Engineer in some cubicle dreams up a "cleaner". Gets chemical company X to make it. Includes a free sample with every machine sold. On page 45 user is instructed how to use "cleaner"

Anybody see anything wrong here? In addition to detergent, user now has to buy cleaner. Someone has to make that cleaner, use precious crude to make the plastic bottle, expand the carbon footprint to deliver it to stores, store has to make shelf space for it, et cetera. Does it make you wonder? On one hand, we're told machines operate this way because the brain trust at the DOE says they have to so we can all reduce our energy consumption. Yet OTOH, we now have to invest money and resources buying cleaners to clean the very machines, that last time I checked, are supposed to clean our laundry!

It reminds me of the oxymoron, "you may not do so unless you have already done so".

Now the HVAC industry has been infected with this nonsense. Smart t-stats, modulating gas valves, control boards that make what you find in a Dell desktop PC look like childs play, all of which are very costly to replace when they fail. And they do with alarming regularity. Again a 97% AFUE furnace is great. Wonderful. YOu're making friends with the greenies. You run it 4-5 years then the control board takes a dump. Your energy "savings" will be wiped out with one repair bill for one of those bad boys. Trust me, I've experienced it before. Go price out a "smart" t-stat. Go ahead. Try to figure out how long you have to have your 97% AFUE furnace in operation before you see any kind of payback.

I posted a link here before that analyzed some of the so called green initiatives. COme to find out, a great many of them were a Pyrrhic victory at best. Yet the dumbass consumer keeps eating it up, keeps buying the latest and greatest thinking he's one step ahead of everyone else out there.

Visitors, when I have them, are shocked that I still have a tube type non HD Toshiba assembled in USA tv. They simply cannot believe that I don't have some whiz bang flat screen with wireless capability, check book balance features, and another feature that wipes my tail after I drop duke. I mean they literally stare at the thing expecting it to grow legs or something. I rarely watch the tube now thanks to listless moronic programming. Why would I invest in a 1080 or whatever flat screen to watch the same crap that I avoid now? BTW my Toshiba is umm 15 years old, never had a repair. The color and sound work perfectly. Every and I do mean every co worker has either junked or repaired their flat screen tv no matter what the brand is. If memory serves me correctly, they seem to get them from Sam's club. Note to self, don't buy a tv at Sam's club.

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HARUMPH!

.....GRUMBLE GRUMBLE.....AND GET OFF MY LAWN!

Geez.
Look, I sympathize, as an engineer, thing's aren't exactly made like they're used to.....but in a way they are.
Sure, my parents have a 33 year old Maytag washer.....but the dryer sure didn't last that long. I don't see a whole lot "back in those days" washers or dishwashers in that many peoples' homes anymore. Yet, my parents' GE dishwasher from 2003 (one of those years that companies apparently made crap) lasted 12 dutiful years with daily use before conking out. Not too shabby in my book.

And then....in one breath you guys rail on and on about the evil gubmint green meanies....but then chastize the products these companies design and sell in the FREE MARKET.
You can't have it both ways. So which is it?

Are people getting dumber? Maybe? In certain areas they do seem like it. Yet in every report you find, IQ and test scores incrementally improved over the decades.
Maybe people are just getting smarter about different things.

In another way, maybe these items we like and enjoy in this community, are COMODITIES today to the vast majority of folks. We've lived with washers and dishwashers for over 50 years. Their mere existance are no longer tech marvals. But the scientific improvements in conservation and fabric care can still be cutting edge.

If you're sick of companies making crap, you know what it's going to take? Market pressure. Lawsuits. And from your lack of confidence in the consumer that you convey, that ain't happening.
So the only next place for it to come from is government regulation to slap the companies around from swindling customers and making garbage.

The fact that these machines work at all, and stand on their own, while still selling for the arguably, same prices as in 1970, today with inflation, is a miracle in itself.

Am I telling you to shut up and give up? No, i'm saying, stop whining and do something about it. Write the companies. Write your congressman.
Make angry tweets while hashtagging Whirlpool.
There's things to do. It's just not easy steering an iceburg.
 

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