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tolivac

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Anyone out there waiting for the new HD DVD formats??The Audio-Video magazines are "buttering up" readers For these new machines.The Toshiba HD DVD machine was supposed to come out Ap 18th. So far haven't seen them here.The Blue Ray machines are supposed to come out May 23.There is a limited selection of movies for the units---but problems--The HD disc formats have stricter "copy protection" systems than the present DVD.If you have a set with the HDMI connectors on it-you are fine.If you have an older HDTV like me-with component Video inputs-you may not be able to watch the HD program recorded on the disc.The studio recording the disc can engage a "Image Constraint Token" which will cause the DVD machine to "down Rez" the Component output so you cannot see the HD program from the component video out.The studios are promising not to use the ICT unless pirating becomes a problem.Probably the best thing to do is wait by the sidelines to let the two HD disc formats "duke it out" or wait and see if some equipment builder makes a "universal" HD disc player that could run both HD formats.Yes--either HD machines will play present DVD's and CD.To make the Disc pits smaller for higher digital capacity-they will scan the disc with a blue laser.Hence the name "Blue Ray" for one of the formats.They are not compatible.The Blue Ray discs can hold more material.You can read about them in various Audio-Video magazines such as "Home Theater","Sound And Vision"and the "Perfect Vision" I am interested to see how these work out and see a demo.Yes folks, ANOTHER Disc video format!!And we just-or so it seems replaced our VHS taped movies with DVD's.
 
I heard a preliminary report that the improvement is marginal except on the largest screens, and that there's a longer "boot time" for the discs to get going. Anyway, my plasma panel doesn't have an HDMI connector and I'm not looking to make a large investment in new hardware.
 
i saw a demo fo the hitachi $499 machine at Best Buy-they were running it into a Westinghouse LCD TV with a HDMI input-Looked pretty good-but no salesman in sight-even if you sent up a flare-to try the machines component video out to the sets Component vid in-and the price of the discs--$29.99 each-and all of movies I already have-will wait.Blue-Ray is supposed to be rolled out 5-23.
 
No, no, no, no, and did I say no?

-A reply in an example.

I have "Dark Side of The Moon" (Happy Fun Creativity Music, not stoner music for me-)

I have it in

Vinyl.

Cassette.

Compact Disc.

Enough said.

I don't want to keep replacing hardware and software for what???

If you're eager and happy, I am sincerely pleased for you.

Otherwise, I am not very interested.

Lawrence/Maytagbear
 
thank you Lawrence

this just smacks of over-marketing. the fueling of gratuitous consumerism. esp the DVD "developments".
 
I just find it sort of interesting.I don't think I will get the machine-I was an early adopter of the DVD-still have my first machine-its a Pioneer unit that can play DVD or Laserdisc.I am waiting for the studios to "duke it out" and see which format wins and wether it is truely HD component video compatible.Otherwize its a waste of money for me-would have to buy a TV set that has HDMI(High Definition Media Interface)input connectors on it.I am happy with my present set.I would just like to get a truely HD source to feed it.
Oh-DVD-Digital Versatle DISC-is a method of recording digitally Video,sound,or even data.It is recorded and played back by a red color laser-In theory you could see its light-CD is recorded and played with Infra Red laser light-you need a veiwer to see it.Since the DVD laser is shorter wavelength-the pits in the disc are smaller than a CD-this allows you to record more data in the same size disc-Blue lasers will allow even more data-something like 7 times more than a DVD.this allows the High definition capability-or some like 7 hrs of standard def video(like a DVD 480P) HD will go up to 720P and 1080I or P.The presnert DVD has become the most popular format for prerecorded movies and programs for the home.Movies and TV shows are recorded on them for home consumption.And both the DVD and HD DVD can delivor the soundtracks in 5.1 or 7.1(HD DVD) channels.Just like at the movie theater.DVD recorders are now available to record TV programs,transfer older Home video formats,or even your own programs you can make from a video camera that can record onto a DVD.The DVD format has essentially replaced the Beta and VHS tape formats.
 
I don't think the HD formats will go the way of DIVX-Figure one of them will win out and the other will go by the wayside.I just think it will take more time to get started-I am glad DIVX died-was ridiculous.I drove by the place that "authorized" the playback of the disc you got from circuit City or Whoever else carried DIVX at that time-the place was in ROCKY Mount NC-about an hr North of me.the final fate of the plant--got flooded during the Floyd flood and was no mre-timing was good anyway since DIVX died at that time-remember the remaining discs were sold for like less the a dollar each!!
 
I hope you didn't take that as a mean challenge.....

but more as a "Mr. Rogers'sy" "you."

Not meant as a mean challenge at all. This just smacks of tinkering for not a lot of improvement.

Lawrence/Maytagbear
 
The equipment builders are eager to introduce the new format--they feel sales of new DVD machines is declining and more HD sets out there-Remember when DVD was introduced-HD sets were in the minority out there.So with the HD sets population increasing-the Audio-Video equipment makers think they can capalize more by introducing another format.They feel the HD machines will pick up sales.I wonder about that-esp with disc prices of $30 each.DVD's are much less than that-and for the same movie.Maybe sales of standard DVD's would pick up if Hollywood film writers would put on their thinking caps and come up with some truely new matrial-not "rehashes" of older shows.And what about some of those other older movies out there that people would like to see in their homes??Many still to go.Studios--Lets record those to discs before introducing ANOTHER format.-and two at the same time--further confusing videophiles.Its going to be interesting to see how this pans out-and how many machines will end up in Best Buys "Returns-and bargain tables"?That could be another way to go if Applianceville folks want to try a machine.The price would be much lower.
 
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