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As some of you know or worked out, I picked up the new unused Hotpoint 1504 that was on ebay a few weeks ago. The machine I grew up with and never thought I'd own one. Had to raid the house renovation budget but I can live without doing up the place for a bit longer!

Thought I'd do a thread on here to show the old girl and comment on some of the design changes between this and the newer models. I'm going to do this the old way so I can put comments on each photo.

Here's the first - the box

 

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Didn't travel far on Valentines day in 1973 - what a present. I wonder what the other 11 items were - 1600 perhaps?

 

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Accessories?

 

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Yes its the hoses and hooks for the back

 

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Complete with tap adaptors. You'll notice that the supply side of the hoses were not fitted with the screwed connections that we have now. My mum's machine when it was finally plumbed in just had the hoses pushed onto copper pipe secured with a jubilee clip.

 

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first full frontal

 

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Without the plastic. My Mum got her machine just after they got married in October 1969 so it would have been one of the first of these models. Her's had minutes on the timeline rather than the Max, Med, Min and the timeline lit up. My service manual says that the lamp and lampholder were deleted in 1971 - I may resurrect this feature

 

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this is the only damage to the machine - a small amount of rust on the bottom of the left hand side so it has survived remarkably well

 

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Back of the machine all wrapped up. you can see evidence of that rust on the plastic

 

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No paper ratings plate here - date code is February 1973 so hot off the production line

 

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Instruction book, guarantee card, aftersales leaflet and tap connector guide. The instruction book is quite detailed but they dropped the little pictures of the tub showing the stage the wash was at

 

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no fitted plugs in those days. My Mum's machine had the old wiring colours as these hadn't been standardised at that time. My aunties later top loader had a round pin 15 amp plug fitted and had to have the lead extended so it could plug into the only 15 amp socket which was next to the fireplace in the living room

 

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I found a suitable one to install which came of said auntie's Hotpoint hoover! I thought it more appropriate than a white one

 

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Worktop off - I have the same style worktop on the Supermatic which must have passed down from an earlier model

 

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Lid open and one of the first internal differences is the design of the filter tray - the centre part is a different shape the lid also

 

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you can see the top of the gyrator knob does not have the O-ring fitted as the tray simply pushes on.

 

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What's inside?

 

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I was surprised to see Ariel in there as well as Persil. I knew Hotpoint had ties with Lever so I'm guessing the Ariel was because of the new powders button on the machine to make use of the biological action

 

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The Persil box is damp damaged although the powder still seems to be free flowing inside. Not that much smell to them though. The Comfort is just like how it used to be.

 

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first look inside at the gyrator - service book term for it anyway

 

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The inside of the tub. This is the same finish as my 1509 whereas my mum's machine had the light grey bowl

 

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Here is the drive nut. There is no bowl clamp on this model as this was introduced later. Not sure if they had a problem with the bowls coming off for them to introduce the clamp or it allowed them to modify the bottom of the bowl!

 

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What a fantastic find! Lucky you. I would love one of these but I'm a stickler when it comes to the water bill! I'm sure its worth it though, have fun!

 

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Here is a close up of the gyrator and gyrator knob - both are a slightly different design to the later models.

 

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Now round the back - close up of the connection instructions

 

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here's one of the biggest differences to the later machines - the water inlets are on the lower side at the back and the drain hose connection is near the bottom. The inlets were moved to the console after this model and the drain hose eventually moved to the top to stop the machine from draining if the drain hose was not installed high enough.

 

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Hardboard back off and first view of the innards - this one seems better quality than the backs of later models although there is no lip on the console for this to slot under. One of the things you notice immediately is there is a lot less wiring than the later models

 

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close up of the 4-pole motor. This was replaced by 2-pole motors with the introduction of the 1509/02 and the running speed was doubled. The 4-pole motors were quieter but must have been more expensive one assumes as it seems a backward step to make a machine noisier!

 

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A close up of the clutch - this had only 1 anti-squeal spring fitted - later models had 2. I can't get my head round how putting a spring round it works

 

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Underneath view - again, the bottom of this machine is in fantastic condition. The 1509/10 new model that I got had a fair bit of rust on the bottom - must just have been how they have been stored. The clutch is a totally different design to the later models.