new kenmore elite drawer dishwasher not cutting it....

[bleacho]

Hi peter....

which dishwasher. the old one? i got that returned, and repurchsed a bosch.. what do i want my dishwasher to do? simply wash my dishes clean.. the kenmore drawer dishwasher was a nightmare, and luckily i was able to get my money back.
the whole process had me skeptical from th beginning.. the sales people knew nothing about it,, the installer had trouble installing it- i was his first. the tech that came out to deem it defective, really didnt know what he was looking for... all people involved were simply frustrated with this product.. it was bizarre. im glad im out of it, and got my 1,200 bucks back..

 

[tomturbomatic]

We found out in service training on Wednesday that the Kenmore dish drawers being introduced at Sears are made in Jackson, TN, in the Maytag dishwasher factory and Sears will have a 6 month exclusive on them which is why we will not get service training on them until this fall. This is a design Maytag came up with before WP bought them. It is not F&P. After the 6 months, there will be a decision concerning under which names it will be marketed.

 

[DADoES]

Possible changing of brand name *after* product sales have already occurred? Who woulda thunk it!

I should note that my F&P DishDrawer has the same glitch with glasses placed at the corners. I've found that placing *larger* diameter glasses there, instead of smaller ones such as 4- to 6-oz juice glasses, gives better results. The Normal cycle is 112 mins, Normal Eco is 88 mins.

 

[passatdoc]

Bosch SHX33A

I have a Bosch SHX33A purchased in October 2001. This is the integrated design: full, plain white panel with parabolic handle and in-the-door-edge buttons. The 33A was the most basic of the integrated line, with only three cycles: Quick Wash, Normal, and Power Scrub Plus. Which is really all that most customers really need (assuming you aren't washing crystal or sanitizing baby bottles every day).

Dead quiet operation. Everything gets clean, no matter where it's placed. Does NOT have a soft food disposer, so you have to scrape large chunks before loading, but no prerinsing is needed. No heated drying, and none is needed: just keep the machine full of rinse agent (e.g. Jet Dry or equivalent) so that the water evaporates off the dishes and on to the metal tub (it is normal to have some moisture on the tub walls at end cycle).

Power Scrub Plus takes about two hours, while Normal cycle runs about 90 minutes. I use Electrasol tablets. In my area, Safeway/VONS markets sell a house brand generic tablet that works well. For extra heavy loads, you can toss an extra tablet into the tub to provide soap during the initial rinse, since the dispenser lacks a second soap compartment. But 99% of the time I use a single tablet and everything comes out clean. Even baked on stuff. No matter where it's placed in the racks.

We converted what was supposed to be a breakfast nook (right off the kitchen) into a home office. So noise is an issue, in terms of being able to use the office without having to deal with excessive dishwasher noise, like the old late 1980s GE Potscrubber used to make. It was awful and often the dishes weren't well cleaned, even on PotScrubber cycle.

 

[BlogShag]

@bleacho, OMG! You had $1200 to spend on a dishwasher and you bought a Kenmore? :&#92 Mark my word, if you have that much to spend on a dishwasher, the only names that should be in your head are Miele, Thermador, Asko, Gaggenau, Bosch. Don't believe Whirlpool's scams. Whirlpool for the most part, no matter how much you spend, makes budget dishwashers. I ought to know, I had to deal with the horrors of one

And beware, Whirlpool purchased interests in such once reputable names as Maytag, KitchenAid a few years ago. They're all crap now cause they are made by Whirlpool and aren't made well.

 

[mich]

I'm hoping...

In all these 6 Years, he's ventured on to a nicer, dishwasher

 

[gelaundry4ever]

whirlpool TT dishwashers

My dad has a whirlpool gold dishwasher with soak and scour and timer display. It does clean well. I use cascade complete and crystal clear rinse aid. I use the citrus breeze variety. When my dad's dishwasher washes, it reminds me of how the GE potscrubber dishwashers sound with the main wash pump.