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Looks nice! I own 2 LG front load washers and a LG dryer - love them. It's as close as I'm going to get to the incredibly overpriced Miele washer / dryer here in the USA.

Andrew
 
Large Capacity Machines

Hi Guys.

On sat we went into Comet to buy a new pc. So I decided to look at the new design of machines out. Looked at the LG 11kg machine, and looks good, but price range was £899.99

The new Hoover Dynamic, that takes a 10kg load also looked great, but for £649.99, I would prefer to buy a Miele, as they built to last.

I also liked the Samsung 9kg model, yet again £699.99.

Siemens looked great, model WM16S79cgb. Yet again it was £949.99.

If I was choosing a new machine, but deffo save up for a Miele.

Paul
 
Honestly, who has 50 and more shirts to be washed in one day? And what about the 20 single sheets?
Plus I would never cramp that much a washing machine while doing shirts as then, you won't be able to iron them at all!
I still think that a 5 kg washing machine is more than adequate for a family of 4 or 5 people! And of those 5 kg most of the times only 3 or 4 are used!
 
New Machines

Hi Guys.

Looking at these machines, there is no way I wouls pay £649 for a Hoover washer. I looked around Comet this weekend, yes, they look so cool with fancy controls.

If I was spending so much, then I would buy a Miele.

Does anyone know about Siemans washers.

Paul
 
LG? Samsung? All badged as Hoovers? Or Hotpoints? If I buy a European front loader, I'm gonna want the real McCoy rather than something re-badged from Korea. I guess the old Italian Zerowatt spoiled me. Let us pray that Miele and Asko don't go that route.

NorfolkSouthern
 
Hoover are made by Candy

and Hotpoint are made by Indesit. All the old European names are still made in Europe (Italy mostly) but a lot of them have been swallowed up by other companies (Indesit group, Candy Group, BSH and Electrolux being the main players)

Problem is once great brands like Hoover, Hotpoint and AEG are now just names slapped on products which bear no resembelance to their former glory. They are now low end brands (AEG being the exception) and they have all suffered from a massive decrease in quality, reliability and durability.

Even the flagship brands for these companies, such as Indesit, Ariston and Candy are now shadows of their former selves, build quality has dropped, quite dramatically in most cases, across the board (Miele being the exception).

I would personally rate machines such as LG and Samsung above brands like Hoover, Hotpoint, Beko, or their equivalents. The only problem is the Korean machines tend to be extremely overpriced for what they are, mainly because of all the r&d that goes into their wacky features like the "silver nano" wash and "steam" functions. They also have higher percieved value by the average consumer because of their modern, "stylish" looks and the fact they have all the bells and whistles under the sun.

These machines which fit in a standard size cabinet and claim to be able to hold 9 or 10, even 11kg of washing have all seem to have drum volumes of roughly 75litres, that holds 7-8kg in my books, lol.

Matt
 
made in Italy ?

Hi Matt,
I mostly do agree with you ... or better, I'd like to.

I'm no more so sure about what is still made here in Italy.

-Zanussi-Electrolux moved some works in Eastern Europe.

-Candy Group has some plants in China and also rebadges something (e.g. chinese made countertop dishwashers)

- Whirlpool Europe has (had ?) their biggest european plant in northern italy (ex IGNIS factories), close to the swiss border. Latest washers don't seem sourced from here yet

For sure the Aqualtis and the Moon are still made in Italy.
Some weeks ago I posted a link to a vid taken from RAI3 TV news showing Merloni's works in Comunanza

".....Indesit, Ariston and Candy are now shadows of their former selves, build quality has dropped......."
Matt, to be honest I'd say Candy has always had nice ideas, but poor build quality (with some rare exceptions)

Carlo
 
My bad

I'm still thinking of a few years ago, most machines I've seen/owned in recent years have been Italian made. I knew some production had moved to eastern Europe, but I didn't realise just how much. I didn't know Candy had moved some production to China either!

Matt
 
And....

Bosch have a factory in Thailand as do Electrolux.....

...and some Whirlpool washers for our market come from China as does Miele's basic vacuum cleaner...
 
Bertrum....

Siemens are the expensive end of Bosch, so quality should be somewhere between Bosch & Miele. Generally v good i think. Think the range is quite small that is sold in the UK though.

As for these huge capacity washers, i think its abit pointless going over 7 or 8 kilos in a domestic environment. As has already been said, theyll spend most of their life half full and will shake themselves to bits. Plus the motors rarely seem up to moving 8 or 9kgs in the new machines, so God knows what sorta mess these bigger machines will get into.

I think some manufacturers need to get the basics like the motor working properly before fitting a launderette size drum.
 

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