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As an L.G. owner,user myself im not to keen on the styling.The facia panel is more reminisant of a 1980s AEG,where the contours of the facia dont match the rest of the machine.I hope the they reintroduce the 30c wash proramme instead of replacing it with 20c wash as on current models.Pesky EEC.Rant over,Nige.
 
I don't care what it looks like

whats more of concern to me is do they actually work? Sadly LG seem to think if it looks good on the outside it is ok.

LG have to go a long way to impress this old laundry Queen I will not be parting with my 14 yr old AEG for all the tea in China/Korea....:o)

Austin
 
LG seem to think if it looks good on the outside it is ok

All they are aiming to do is get the product into as many homes as possible. Unfortunately, many consumers purchase a product based on its looks alone.

Malcolm
 
My smoked glass theory

I think manufacturers are putting smoked glass on washers so when people open the door they feel their gray whites are whiter after those super quick cold cycles.

Plus they've become uniformed... Panasonic, Samsung, LG, Hotpoint coming on May have smoked glass door and chrome frame...total lack of creativity
 
As I said on the thread about "Doomsday" for Windows XP, beauty is only skin-deep.

Functionality is what you need, but unfortunately these machines probably won't have that and the consumers who purchase them will turn into winging masses as they realise they bought a singing, plastic piece of crap. 

 

I seriously hope these machines can actually clean the clothes, and LG/Samsung etc. are developing technologies that set them apart from the rest. 
 
Deja Vu

LG's new washers are Deja Vu to me and I call them copy paste from other brands' ideas. I personally like the washers way before the 6 motions one like the LG WD14331ADK

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Yeesh

that control panel looks like it could launch a rocket into space. And what exactly is a medic rinse?

Too much overwrought design and too much of "if two choices are good, then a whole lot more are better!"

Well, at least they got a wash cycle pegged under 1 hour. 59 minutes to be exact. Still can't beat a run of the mill TL machine time wise.
 
I think the washer looks like one of these rounded cube speakers that you can get from Apple etc. with a large smart phone as a control panel attached to it. The reason I have to think of a phone is because most of them have chrome trims around them these days.

What usually consumes a lot of time is water heating. The large US washers by LG take slightly over 30 minutes (with TurboWash) to do a wash, spray rinse, deep rinse and two more spray rinses during the final spin. They fill with warm water, though, so the detergent is immediately active and water heating may be skipped. The European version has to heat it's water from cold and this takes some time even at 2000 watts. I wish more washers over here would have hot/cold fill - it's such a grat time-saver, I think.

Medic Rinse heats the last rinse to 104F.
 
I fear 20c is the new 30c

I fear were being forced to use low wash temperatures in the U.K ,i have installed several new L.G. washers lately including one today and all of them had a 20c 40c 60c 90c wash but no 30c wash.Personally i would choose to wash at 40c rather than drop to 20c,after all i pay my electricity bill.Found this article that explains the situation very well .Makes an interesting read.I will be interested to see the new range of L.G.washers in the metal, so until then i will reserve judgment. Regards Nige.

http://www.which.co.uk/home-and-gar...des/using-your-washing-machine/program-guide/
 
@ reversomatic

About the loss of the 30 degree wash... I was saddened by the loss of this temperature, and when I purchased the Hoover Dynamic, I was fully aware I had to give it up (although I didn't really give it up cos' I used it in the other washer).

Having said that, I've made a discovery only recently and now I know that the 30 degree wash... and the 50, haven't been lost. I'm not sure whether it would be the same on the LG, but on the Hoover, on a standard cotton program, by choosing the lowest level of dirt and without selecting any option, it would do a 30/50 degree wash on Cotton 40 and 60. To obtain 40 and 60 with the minimum soil level, one has to use a function called 'Stain Blaster'.

I've only recently been paying attentian to the actual temperature of the wash cycle, so I'm not sure whether this applies to the other levels of dirt (3 levels altogether), but I'll find out sooner or later ;-)
 
The Loss of 30C, and temperature reduction..

Its all because the some silly rules came out saying all machines must have a 20C option.

Meanwhile, on 60 & 40 cycles we're seeing what the states are seeing - dumbing down the temperature of the cycle, so that the manufacturers can claim there machine is more efficient, and the Energy label allows this. (for instance in Germany, a Bosch Ecostar washer (rated A+++-50% think the website says) [thats A-80% or A++++++++] with Eco perfect takes a whopping 6hrs on cottons 60, the reason, its only a 30C cycle, and has to spend all that time washing clothes just to get the same results as a 60 wash).
If you ask me some manufacturers make such bold claims and such long wash times, it'll soon be more expensive due to the longer cycle duration?

On my hotpoint when the programme dial is on no 3, and 60C is selected on the small temp dial, the machine [according to which] heats only to 49C. however selecting 50C will heat to 50C, thats 1Degrees hotter? [you can get a full temp wash by choosing superwash, or prog 2, prog 6].
I Presume all machines, which don't have an eco/energy reduced function, will do this - Hoover, Candy, Indesit, some Zanussi.

Back to topic - I prefer the new Samsung over this, the door looks terrible, and control panel to me seems a step backwards.
 
Just probed it with a digital thermometer...

I just used a cotton 40 cycle with the minimal level of dirt, after the machine finished heating I touched the glass and as usual on this cycle, it didn't feel as warm as i'd normally do when the Stain Blaster option is selected. So, I paused the washer, opened the door and stuck a digital thermometer at the bottom of the wet laundry: this read 35.7 degrees! So, that's it, a Cotton 40 is really a Cotton 35. I'm ok with this though, I think it's safe enough to use 35 even on garments with a wash label that indicates to wash at 30. Now I wonder if Cotton 20 becomes Cotton 25 with the Stain Blaster... I guess I'll have to try that!

What annoys me though is the fact that the manufacturer doesn't make any of these things clear on the manual... why should I have to test and experiment everything in order to find out how the machine really works? I doubt any of the average washing machine user would give the washer the time of day to try a thermometer inside the washer: I must admit this is a tad frustrating!
 
Hoover's misleading temperatures

I see they are using a reversed intuitive process now. And they're all at it.

In the days of the Ecologics and New Waves, the programme temperature was as stated, eg. 60 degrees C. If you selected the 60 deg C programme and pressed the Economy option, the wash temperature was reduced by about 10 degrees, i.e. 50 deg C.

Similarly, Zanussi IZ Jetsystem from 2001, wash time equalled about 2 hrs 10. Time Reducer option cut that down to about an hour.

Now, the machines (such as a 2006 Bosch and 2009 Panasonic) default to the speedier cycles. You now have to choose the intensive / wash plus option.
 
Why do I need my smartphone to wash clothes? I don't have the time to play around with cycles and downloads and all this pointless info-tech nonsense. People have lost the plot.
 
The bath and shower analogy was used by Zanussi when they first introduced the Jetsystem in the late 80's

I do like these LG's but one rinse in a F/L? no thanks.
 
Originally, the energy efficiency scale went from G to A. With appliances becoming more efficient, plusses were added to A. This machine is 40% more efficient than A+++. It's really getting ridiculous.

 

If you look at the control panel, the Cotton Large cycle, along with the 40° and 60° temps, have a little symbol next to them. Selecting that cycle with either temperature will get you a super-efficient wash. Any other combination will run a normal (non-eco) cycle.
 
A+++-40%

is basically 40% more efficient than A+++ model - so its A+++++++ or A-70%The downside - washing in this mode takes about 6hrs, the good news though, is significant energy saving.
Bosch sell an A+++-50% in Germany, and apparently thats an 8hr cycle.
 

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