New line of Kenmore dishwashers...

Automatic Washer - The world's coolest Washing Machines, Dryers and Dishwashers

Help Support AutomaticWasher.org:

Cwheeler

Active member
Joined
Jan 17, 2005
Messages
35
Hey guys, if you go over to the Kenmore website, they have a new line of dishwashers coming out later this month. if you look in the little flash box thingy, it'll appear - click on the "learn more" button. Apparently, if you pre-order now, you can get 20% off, but it's still ridiculously expensive. Can't tell who makes them by looking at them and I'm not convinced that the design of the wash arm is going to actually work with so few holes...
Anyhoo, looks interesting...
 
An LCD touch screen? Looks like it's the new Vantage dish(washer). These new spray arms are becoming popular in Europe, too...

<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value=""></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>
 
LG's don't have exposed heating elements, and their models all have self-cleaning filters. I doubt whichever corporate parent owns the rights to the Turbo-Zone feature would let LG co-opt it.

Those are two features of LG dishwashers that I like. In fact, I use the 160-degree rinse a lot these days, because it doesn't add 20 minutes to the cycle, as it did with my Maytag and Frigidaire machines. The elements in LG's heat the water very quickly----wherever they're hidden.

I'll put my money on them being Whirlpool-made.
 
If these "new spray arms" that are becoming popular in europe have't been marketed on machines in Europe before until now, well, Frigidaire had something like that in the late 1960s and 1970s until White Consolidated bought them out and GE had something similar in the 1990s.
 
I thought the same thing Jason. List for the most expensive is like $2100. Might as well fork over the $$$ for a Miele in that case. What you say?
 
If I was so hell bent on having a dishwasher with a manual clean filter I would get the Whirlpool built machine. At least that way when it does require repair I won't have to pay the over inflated costs for parts or service.
 
A dishwasher in my house gets very heavy use, and I'm not always diligent about scraping dishes thoroughly, so the manual-clean filter is a deal-breaker for me. I'd be emptying it constantly.

I'll trade the decibel-or-two reduction in noise for a self-cleaning filter every time.

My LG (which has a self-cleaning filter) is super quiet; can barely hear it running.
 
WOW! SO ENERGY EFFICIENT!

This is crazy!
What is so "Efficient" about a dishwasher that cost this much?
It would have to last 40 years and ran 4 times a day just to catch up with your investment.
I don't see any energy "savings" here!
Crazy!
 
YES A440!

I run into this type of short-term thinking all the time in historic preservation. Replacement windows are the same way. In both cases, the chances of the item lasting long enough to pay for itself in energy savings is virtually nil.

Dave
 
Hang onto your old machines guys and girls because insanity is ruling the appliance marketplace. One big factor in these prices is the weak dollar's exchange rate. It's not your neighbor who's making most of the appliances you see for sale. I've learned that even if the cardboard box is stamped "Made in the USA", the part inside is likely to be from China or Mexico.
 
2 hours and 52 minutes for a single cycle!?!?! My 4 year old Ge TT has a speed cycle that cleans in 32 minutes, and normal cycle might take 50. 3 hours is ridiculous!
 
Surgilator_68:

I Thought that the Whirlpool/Kenmore HE Wash systems were from Bosch? Is this correct? or is it just based off the bosch wash system?
 
It's somewhat based on the European (surprise, surprise) wash system by Whirlpool & Bauknecht. Only that the Euro models don't have the exposed heating element and a water softener.
 
Hm. Even from seeing that cool picture, I'm still not sold on how well this thing will actually clean...it looks like more novelty than function...I do think more than 5 or so jets of water might be needed....
 
cwheeler:

I have a Bosch that I bought 3 yrs ago and the bottom wash arm only has 6 jets that Spray up to the bottom rack (there are two more on the under side that spray the filter screens). I have yet to pull something out that didn't get clean.
 
I have the Kenmore Elite HE dishwasher.....extremely quiet and an excellent cleaner. It has alternating wash arms and a removable filter, like a Bosch. I didn't think I would like the filter system, but I very seldom have to clean it, and I don't prerinse, just scrape the dishes and in they go. The "top rack only" cycle is handy to have. But I think the turbo zone jets in the back of the tub are down too low. They should be up higher for better coverage.
 
RE563,
That's really interesting - are the holes in the arm smaller, like the old-school Maytags?
 
<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value=""></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value=""></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value=""></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/uFVLTPBwgrk&hl=de_DE&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>
 
Stick Out

Looks like the edge of the panel will stick out from under the edge of the counter. So much for being flush, I guess.
 
It actually cleans very well. We have a lot of customers with them. Most all have the same complaint, it smells like roadkill inside. This complaint of course only comes from the people who put food in the dishwasher.
 
If you max the thing out on options with the Pots n pans cyc

A bit misleading Json if I may be so bold to state. Of all the Whirlpool produced versions (Kenmore, Kenmore Elite, KitchenAid, Maytag et. al), Whirlpool features the Soak & Scub option--this is a 4-hour cycle whikch periodically sprays soapy water on the dishload (kind of like the enzyme soak on Kenore washer where it agitated for 15 seconds every 10 minutes). Afterr this Soak & Scrub option is finished, then it could go into the Pots 'n' Pan cycle with every option--high temp wash, sani rinse, and heated dry. That alone will be almost 3 hours or so based upon my 3 year old Kenmore Elite.
 
Back
Top