New Maytag commercial top load washer video.
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Your welcome! Kirk is a great guy going to the trouble to film these machines for the public. Similar to GE's current crop of top loaders with decent turnover.
That jeans load was a good indicator of how well this machine can circulate a big load like that. This to me is the only real competitor to Speed Queen now for a top load washer. That warranty is very enticing. I always wanted to see a video of this machine in action and now I have.
I like that it switches agitator speeds during washing. Fast like a DD and then switches to a long slower stroke.
Kirk says he will be filming many cycles with this washer. I want to see what the normal cycle does.. how high the water level is. It has no load sensor so that will be interesting.
Hope Whirlpool offers other models like this with more options. I may have to visit the dealer where I bought my Speed Queen and check to see if they have this washer in on the sales floor. [this post was last edited: 11/22/2017-23:23]
That jeans load was a good indicator of how well this machine can circulate a big load like that. This to me is the only real competitor to Speed Queen now for a top load washer. That warranty is very enticing. I always wanted to see a video of this machine in action and now I have.
I like that it switches agitator speeds during washing. Fast like a DD and then switches to a long slower stroke.
Kirk says he will be filming many cycles with this washer. I want to see what the normal cycle does.. how high the water level is. It has no load sensor so that will be interesting.
Hope Whirlpool offers other models like this with more options. I may have to visit the dealer where I bought my Speed Queen and check to see if they have this washer in on the sales floor. [this post was last edited: 11/22/2017-23:23]
washerdude
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Seems to be a no BS top loader.
Cuts right into the next cycle with no stupid sensing spins.
Me Like!
Not the mention that aggressive agitation!
Cuts right into the next cycle with no stupid sensing spins.
Me Like!
Not the mention that aggressive agitation!
This washer does a lot of things right that any other washer - be it TL or FL - could learn from.
Seperating the actual rating cycle from the cycle the consumer will use most has been standard over here and makes a lot of sense especially with electronicly controlled machines.
Allows for proper washing while hitting ratings.
Next, it knows what water it needs. Forcing lower water usage to the point your wash system no longer works is just stupid. An agitator washer simply needs clothes to be suspended in water. A FL needs water to quickly and effectivley filter through the laundry.
Oh, and it allows for a wide range of options. From single spray to double deep rinse.
One thing that is sad though: I think a rough sensing would actually make this a far more recomandable machine.
I mean, the basket really isn't big, but still, I think a half load should use less water then a full load.
Sensing dosen't mean it has to go completly HE. But it has the capability to sense, so why not sense for half loads on DeepWater cycles?
Using a full tub of water even though I might just wash half a load or less just seems unecessary.
And these machines can for sure do that!
If I were to use this machine, I couldn't get myself to run anything but full loads. Couldn't get over the thought of using 20 or so gallons more then needed just because the machine says so.
Seperating the actual rating cycle from the cycle the consumer will use most has been standard over here and makes a lot of sense especially with electronicly controlled machines.
Allows for proper washing while hitting ratings.
Next, it knows what water it needs. Forcing lower water usage to the point your wash system no longer works is just stupid. An agitator washer simply needs clothes to be suspended in water. A FL needs water to quickly and effectivley filter through the laundry.
Oh, and it allows for a wide range of options. From single spray to double deep rinse.
One thing that is sad though: I think a rough sensing would actually make this a far more recomandable machine.
I mean, the basket really isn't big, but still, I think a half load should use less water then a full load.
Sensing dosen't mean it has to go completly HE. But it has the capability to sense, so why not sense for half loads on DeepWater cycles?
Using a full tub of water even though I might just wash half a load or less just seems unecessary.
And these machines can for sure do that!
If I were to use this machine, I couldn't get myself to run anything but full loads. Couldn't get over the thought of using 20 or so gallons more then needed just because the machine says so.
I agree henene4. I was thinking about that. Since this isn't an impeller style agitator...i think with the design it would have to fill pretty high as the agitator vanes would give too much resistance and put unnecessary labor on the motor, but I'm not an engineer. Would like to see the parts breakdown though. [this post was last edited: 11/22/2017-21:02]
I think they are trying to mimick a DD here- that agitation sure looks like it. Faster fill to. I think Speed Queen has Whirlpool scared.
The long stroke really sloshed the jeans around in that tub..funny enough though the shorter strokes seemed to have more controlled turnover... this machine is really growing on me already. I wonder if the top is POS?...NO! Not that POS!.... I mean Porcelain on steel.LOL
Not only that- the thing goes right into spin. And I really like that the spray rinse is at the end of the first spin- flushes out the remaining suds water from the drain house and pump- makes me wonder why no one did this earlier. And is it me or does this thing drain faster to?
Yes- I am also sold! Mark my words, things will only get better with Trump!
Yes- I am also sold! Mark my words, things will only get better with Trump!
And it does to full deep rinses! I'm in love <3 <3
Finally after 8 years a real washer from Whirlpool.
Finally after 8 years a real washer from Whirlpool.
Chetlaham I thought the same thing about the draining too. It seems to empty pretty fast. Really curious as to how much water the normal cycle will use. I imagine you still have to use HE detergent... Which nowadays is almost standard.
I hope this already passes 2018 regulations on its normal cycle. If the LORD wills I will get one just to have...Finally Whirlpool is waking up. If future washers are made like this I will definitely consider Whirlpool again. If the DD washers were still being made when I got my Speed Queen set I wouldn't have gotten a Speed Queen set.
I hope this already passes 2018 regulations on its normal cycle. If the LORD wills I will get one just to have...Finally Whirlpool is waking up. If future washers are made like this I will definitely consider Whirlpool again. If the DD washers were still being made when I got my Speed Queen set I wouldn't have gotten a Speed Queen set.
Finally- its happening. Knowing manufactures first try the boldest moves on their TOLs, there is a good chance this could move its way down to the Amanas. At least its a wish. They are going to win many people over this way.
All in all SQ is still the way to go as I think those will outlast the DDs.
All in all SQ is still the way to go as I think those will outlast the DDs.
I hope these Maytag washers hold up past the warranty. When I begin my new career I will consider getting one of these washers. Still content with the 432.
Will have to keep an eye out for more videos of this machine in action. At least we know how it does with a fairly big load of denims. Very good!
Will have to keep an eye out for more videos of this machine in action. At least we know how it does with a fairly big load of denims. Very good!
Very interesting. 3.6 cubic feet. It's about the same size as SQ, maybe a little larger. Stainless steel tub and decent warranty. Definitely feel that Whirlpool has taken serious notice of SQ. I wonder if it has a lint filter.
Barry
Barry
mark_wpduet
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Wow
And for years people have said things would only get worse. This is just like an OLD 80s/90s/2000s Whirlpool Kenmore dual action TLer. The only DUMB thing I see is that there is no water level setting - low, med, high, Ex Large. What were they thinking leaving that out? They got everything else right.
And for years people have said things would only get worse. This is just like an OLD 80s/90s/2000s Whirlpool Kenmore dual action TLer. The only DUMB thing I see is that there is no water level setting - low, med, high, Ex Large. What were they thinking leaving that out? They got everything else right.
I don't understand the reasoning behind the (lack of) water level choices ... either auto-sense or FULL fill. F&P gets it right on their agitator model -- auto-sense or choice of five manual selections on ALL cycles.
mrb627
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No water level control = Fail
Seems rather dumb to me. Forcing a full tub fill for all cycles except the tree hugger Normal. I expect the normal cycle prevents hot water too. Styling it to mimic the look of the coin op is kind of funny...
Why are they so out of touch with what the consumer wants?
Malcolm
Seems rather dumb to me. Forcing a full tub fill for all cycles except the tree hugger Normal. I expect the normal cycle prevents hot water too. Styling it to mimic the look of the coin op is kind of funny...
Why are they so out of touch with what the consumer wants?
Malcolm
so Deep Water gives you a full tub of water....whether you need that much or not....I guess full loads only....that's about the only thing Commercial related to this machine....
do you really believe this is a different platform, built in a whole different section of the factory than any other standard machine?....outside of a coin box, and relabeled, its a copy of a machine they already built...
as mentioned, there's no Auto Sense for water...what happens on the Normal cycle?....
note, the lid does not LOCK during fill/agitation, but does not operate with the lid open....
what about temps?....willing to bet their seriously dubbed down....
just another version of Whirlpool's World washer....
do you really believe this is a different platform, built in a whole different section of the factory than any other standard machine?....outside of a coin box, and relabeled, its a copy of a machine they already built...
as mentioned, there's no Auto Sense for water...what happens on the Normal cycle?....
note, the lid does not LOCK during fill/agitation, but does not operate with the lid open....
what about temps?....willing to bet their seriously dubbed down....
just another version of Whirlpool's World washer....
Hey guys.. calm down! The man just got the machine in and will get to testing other cycles. Save your judging until he does a more thorough testing of other cycles with this washer.
It's a start for one with a larger capacity.. and the fact it doesn't do weird balancing acts going into spin is a plus. It fills fairly quickly and drains pretty fast from what we see in the video. These have heavier built cabinets also. If they can give the user more options on coming models that will be a big plus.
It's a start for one with a larger capacity.. and the fact it doesn't do weird balancing acts going into spin is a plus. It fills fairly quickly and drains pretty fast from what we see in the video. These have heavier built cabinets also. If they can give the user more options on coming models that will be a big plus.
Maybe it only has one water level because it is a commercial washer, meant for the commercial market where they most likely fill the machines?
Good point Imperial70. Even with the lack of a water level control I like this washer. I just hope the power wash cycle can do a true hot water wash. Will save any negative comments until after i can see more cycles with this machine. Heavier built with a 5 year parts and labor warranty. Not too shabby! This is how they should build all Maytag's. [this post was last edited: 11/23/2017-11:30]
I don't think five jeans is all that large of a load. I can get 7 to 8 pairs in my F&P, although I suppose that depends on the size of them.
It probably could have done well with a few more thrown in I'm sure. Glen didn't you have a video you made some time back of your F&P washing a big load of jeans? Take no offense, but that video put me off to F&P washers at that time. I didn't like the performance at all... lots of thrashing with no turnover.
As long as it cleaned then that is all that matters really.
IDK, but I think these VMW's definitely need the DAA for better circulation whereas Speed Queens flex vane is perfectly adequate for their wash tubs. [this post was last edited: 11/23/2017-09:35]
As long as it cleaned then that is all that matters really.
IDK, but I think these VMW's definitely need the DAA for better circulation whereas Speed Queens flex vane is perfectly adequate for their wash tubs. [this post was last edited: 11/23/2017-09:35]
supersurgilator
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I've looked thru the manual online and the Normal cycle is the ONLY one that limits the water temps, all of the deep water cycles will use straight hot water. That is also the only cycle with a spray rinse.
I agree I'm impressed with this machine and how it performs. I just wish it had some water level control to do small loads.
I agree I'm impressed with this machine and how it performs. I just wish it had some water level control to do small loads.
cfz2882
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upgraded VMW?
sounds like mechanism is upgraded VMW :1/2 HP motor VS 1/3 HP that my VMW cabrio has and a 7-rib drive belt.
sounds like mechanism is upgraded VMW :1/2 HP motor VS 1/3 HP that my VMW cabrio has and a 7-rib drive belt.
wft2800
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Does this have a proper transmission or just a reversing motor? I'm not sure why Maytag are making this when the commercial world has largely moved to front-loaders, especially this side of the Atlantic.
Ten Jeans
AgiFlow2, yes. I did a load of ten jeans as a test in my GWL08. I wouldn't do that under normal usage circumstances. The service manual describes "Maximum Capacity Profile" that triggers only at high water level on very heavy loads. It says agitation stops 3 to 6 mins into the wash period and restarts with a noticeably different action. I wanted to check if I could see that happen, which I didn't. Anyway, there is rollover. White pockets and brown tags can be noted appearing at the outside and/or getting pulled down but it's slow and video quality is very poor. Easier to see by speeding up the playback rate.
AgiFlow2, yes. I did a load of ten jeans as a test in my GWL08. I wouldn't do that under normal usage circumstances. The service manual describes "Maximum Capacity Profile" that triggers only at high water level on very heavy loads. It says agitation stops 3 to 6 mins into the wash period and restarts with a noticeably different action. I wanted to check if I could see that happen, which I didn't. Anyway, there is rollover. White pockets and brown tags can be noted appearing at the outside and/or getting pulled down but it's slow and video quality is very poor. Easier to see by speeding up the playback rate.
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