New Maytag commercial top load washer video.

[yogitunes]

so Deep Water gives you a full tub of water....whether you need that much or not....I guess full loads only....that's about the only thing Commercial related to this machine....

do you really believe this is a different platform, built in a whole different section of the factory than any other standard machine?....outside of a coin box, and relabeled, its a copy of a machine they already built...

as mentioned, there's no Auto Sense for water...what happens on the Normal cycle?....

note, the lid does not LOCK during fill/agitation, but does not operate with the lid open....

what about temps?....willing to bet their seriously dubbed down....

just another version of Whirlpool's World washer....

 

[agiflow2]

Hey guys.. calm down! The man just got the machine in and will get to testing other cycles. Save your judging until he does a more thorough testing of other cycles with this washer.

It's a start for one with a larger capacity.. and the fact it doesn't do weird balancing acts going into spin is a plus. It fills fairly quickly and drains pretty fast from what we see in the video. These have heavier built cabinets also. If they can give the user more options on coming models that will be a big plus.

 

[imperial70]

Maybe it only has one water level because it is a commercial washer, meant for the commercial market where they most likely fill the machines?

 

[agiflow2]

Good point Imperial70. Even with the lack of a water level control I like this washer. I just hope the power wash cycle can do a true hot water wash. Will save any negative comments until after i can see more cycles with this machine. Heavier built with a 5 year parts and labor warranty. Not too shabby! This is how they should build all Maytag's. [this post was last edited: 11/23/2017-11:30]

 

[DADoES]

 
I don't think five jeans is all that large of a load.  I can get 7 to 8 pairs in my F&P, although I suppose that depends on the size of them.

 

[agiflow2]

It probably could have done well with a few more thrown in I'm sure. Glen didn't you have a video you made some time back of your F&P washing a big load of jeans? Take no offense, but that video put me off to F&P washers at that time. I didn't like the performance at all... lots of thrashing with no turnover.

As long as it cleaned then that is all that matters really.

IDK, but I think these VMW's definitely need the DAA for better circulation whereas Speed Queens flex vane is perfectly adequate for their wash tubs. [this post was last edited: 11/23/2017-09:35]

 

[supersurgilator]

I've looked thru the manual online and the Normal cycle is the ONLY one that limits the water temps, all of the deep water cycles will use straight hot water. That is also the only cycle with a spray rinse.
I agree I'm impressed with this machine and how it performs. I just wish it had some water level control to do small loads.

 

[agiflow2]

I looked through the online manual also and must have not read it. Cool! If this had auto and manual water levels I would jump on this in a minute.

 

[cfz2882]

upgraded VMW?

sounds like mechanism is upgraded VMW :1/2 HP motor VS 1/3 HP that my VMW cabrio has and a 7-rib drive belt.

 

[wft2800]

Does this have a proper transmission or just a reversing motor? I'm not sure why Maytag are making this when the commercial world has largely moved to front-loaders, especially this side of the Atlantic.

 

[DADoES]

Ten Jeans

 
AgiFlow2, yes.  I did a load of ten jeans as a test in my GWL08.  I wouldn't do that under normal usage circumstances.  The service manual describes "Maximum Capacity Profile" that triggers only at high water level on very heavy loads.  It says agitation stops 3 to 6 mins into the wash period and restarts with a noticeably different action.  I wanted to check if I could see that happen, which I didn't.  Anyway, there is rollover.  White pockets and brown tags can be noted appearing at the outside and/or getting pulled down but it's slow and video quality is very poor.  Easier to see by speeding up the playback rate.

 

[ea56]

This thread has intrigued me. The new commercial Maytag has many similarities to my Maytag MVWC415EW 3.6 cu ft. TL. I’ve noticed that many are disappointed that there is no water level control or water sensing on this machine to allow for smaller loads. As another member pointed out, this may be due to the fact that its commerical and meant for laundromats., which makes sense.

On my Maytag, using the Deep Water cycle, it will fill to the top if the load is a full load, but otherwise it senses the loads size and fills to a level that covers the load with at least a few inches of water. I primarily use the Deep Water and Powerwash cycles. They both fill with tap hot water, but the Powerwash cycle fills slightly less than the Deep Water cycle. There is a brief spray rinse on both of these cycles before the deep fill rinse.

I have only used the Normal cycle a few times, but it also seemed to do a fine job of cleaning. In my mind these washers strike a happy medium between the excessive water that a traditional TL requires and the inadequate amount that many of the newer FL’s use. My machine is just 2 weeks shy of a year old and I’ve experienced no problems during this year.

From the many comments that I’ve read on this thread I really think that many of you would be very happy with this machine, or one of the other new Maytag/Whirlpool TL’s.

I don’t know how to film a video, and I haven’t monkeyed around with the lid lock so I can watch it in action. But when I’ve lifted the lid during wash and rinse cycles I’ve always found the water level to be covering the load and at a hot enough temp. I almost always wash on hot, heavy soil level and each load is finished in about 55-60 mins. And this machine NEVER unbalances, which is a rarity these days. I really enjoy laundry day with this machine.

BTW, out of 6552 reviews, 86% recommend this machine.

Sometimes new technology can actually be good.
Eddie[this post was last edited: 11/23/2017-13:44]

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[agiflow2]

wft2800

Because we are not England or Europe. People in the US still want these washers. You have all been conditioned to what you have been using for decades and so have we. Just personal preference.

 

[DADoES]

Commercial vs. Home/Residential

 
It's aimed at the home user with the "commercial" label/aspect as a marketing strategy.  Maytag's web site (which sucks by the way) describes it as "3.5 Cu. Ft. Commercial-Grade Residential Agitator Washer."

Notice the lid is offset a bit to the left, leaving room at the right side of the top panel for placement of a coin-box for models that are aimed directly at the coin-op market.  Operation is via electronics so they could have included a water level selector on this residential-aimed model with appropriate revision to the control board.

WFT2800, it's of the VMW design, which has a planetary-gear transmission (Kirk in the video refers to "quad-gear transmission") with reversing motor to provide oscillation.  He also says it doesn't have auto load sense ... which brings the question (since there's no water level selector) how does it determine the water level on the Normal cycle which isn't in the Deep Water section of the cycle dial and presumably doesn't always entail a full fill?

 

[agiflow2]

My old Maytag Bravo X would spin the dry load when starting... I believe that's when the sensing takes place, and this machine does not spin the dry load. Am really intrigued now how deep the normal fill will be. It would have to be at least half the tub with that agitator design, i would think anyway .. will just have to wait for more videos and see.

 

[Chetlaham]

Full fill maybe from the bulky cycle- but we will see.

This might have a 1/2 HP motor now that you mention it. Everything look stronger in this machine. Either that they are maximizing the power from the 1/3 already in there.

 

[henene4]

half horse power

As long as it's only a peak power maintained for a short amount of time, a 1/3hp motor should be overdrivable to 1/2hp.

 

[Chetlaham]

Lost me there- what do you mean?

 

[henene4]

Electric motors can - depending on their design - run at powers higher then their design power.

It does greatly affect longevity, but a 1/3hp motor driven by an inverter (or simmilar basic idea of driving it) can put our peak powers of 1/2hp.
As long as these overdrive situations are kept short (for example just the start of a spin), there is no issue in doing so.

 

[cfz2882]

1/2 peak HP easy work for most 1/3 HP motors-PSC motor in the VMW machines has a radial fan on top that keeps motor decently cool-I have felt the motor in my cabrio after a long agitation and it was only warm.