washerdude
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New Maytag commercial top load washer video.
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That spin cycle video is impressive. I have to say that my Maytag is the best at balancing a load of any washer I’ve ever owned. I have a heavy waffle weave cotton outter shower curtain, a nylon liner, heavy woven cotton bathmat and a rubbermaid tub mat, that once a month I wash all together in one load. The only time my washer has gone out balance was the first time I washed this load. I stopped it, rearranged the rubber mat, restarted and finished the spin. But since the one time, everytime I wash this same load the washer goes into a smooth spin without hesitation. The suspension must really be good.
I haven’t tried the phone book trick, but it wouldn’t surprise me if my Maytag handled it the same way.
Eddie
I haven’t tried the phone book trick, but it wouldn’t surprise me if my Maytag handled it the same way.
Eddie
Its definitely apparent that the cabinet is of better construction in these machines. I have an older VMW and when the outer tub smacks against the cabinet in an out of balance load the sheet metal cabinet flexes. It sounds like a drum. These new ones are solid!
speedqueen
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These seem to be nice machines
I was the one who requested the mop and phone book tests. I wondered if they beefed up the suspension to match everything else. I am impressed with the washing action, seems as or even more vigorous than 210 degree flex vane agitation on an SQ. WP has certainly took notice of SQ.
What happened to Pat(agiflow2)?
I was the one who requested the mop and phone book tests. I wondered if they beefed up the suspension to match everything else. I am impressed with the washing action, seems as or even more vigorous than 210 degree flex vane agitation on an SQ. WP has certainly took notice of SQ.
What happened to Pat(agiflow2)?
Really great and interesting machine
It's almost like somebody at Whirlpool was told to make a washer as close to the old DD design as possible on the new platform. Bet that was a lot of fun if the right person got the assignment.
The only minor criticisms I can think of are the fixed water level for most cycles and the obvious bug in using fast agitation on the 2nd rinse of the delicate cycle.
But there is so much to like. The presoak option on any cycle is perfect given that modern enzyme detergents need longer to work.
Does anybody know how much bigger this tub is compared to the old DD?
My biggest issue would be paying $800+ (plus tax) for one of these given how many great used DDs are being sold on Craigslist for $150 or even less.
There are some more videos from Kirk Rivas on YouTube showing the underside lid instructions and the the front service panel removed.
http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMpXA9miRhU
It's almost like somebody at Whirlpool was told to make a washer as close to the old DD design as possible on the new platform. Bet that was a lot of fun if the right person got the assignment.
The only minor criticisms I can think of are the fixed water level for most cycles and the obvious bug in using fast agitation on the 2nd rinse of the delicate cycle.
But there is so much to like. The presoak option on any cycle is perfect given that modern enzyme detergents need longer to work.
Does anybody know how much bigger this tub is compared to the old DD?
My biggest issue would be paying $800+ (plus tax) for one of these given how many great used DDs are being sold on Craigslist for $150 or even less.
There are some more videos from Kirk Rivas on YouTube showing the underside lid instructions and the the front service panel removed.
http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMpXA9miRhU
We just returned from a trip to New Orleans. The Hotel we usually stay at had orbital Maytags last year in the guest laundry. Now they have new "Maytag" (insert sarcasm) machines. I had to wash a small load of jeans and I must say I am NOT impressed.
Strangest thing on the inside of the lid is: "No washer can completely remove oil".
magic_clean
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Regarding the 'oil' statement
Google spontaneous combustion and clothes dryers
Google spontaneous combustion and clothes dryers
They are right about the oil
A spontaneous combustion fire just happened near me this past week.
http://triblive.com/local/pennhills...e-fire-ignited-by-hot-oily-towels-at-new-penn
A spontaneous combustion fire just happened near me this past week.
http://triblive.com/local/pennhills...e-fire-ignited-by-hot-oily-towels-at-new-penn
Yes, oil and clothes dryers are a problem. But I have never had a problem removing oil stains in a washer.
I routinely wash clothes used to clean up after “personal” activities where petroleum based products have been used, (we’re old school). I can attest to the fact that the vaseline comes (no pun intended) out in the wash using Tide of Persil in my Maytag Cenntenial, with no traces of the vaseline left behind.
Maybe I’m just living right, but I don’t have any problems getting oil out in the wash.
Eddie
Maybe I’m just living right, but I don’t have any problems getting oil out in the wash.
Eddie
I love life! 
New video
New video
I think it's stupid it won't spin and spray at the same time. Maybe with thee weight of fabrics, that inertia will keep the tub rotating longer so it's rotating some when it begins spraying again.
I would say so, but I would have at least included logic that uses the speed sensor to pulse the motor so the tub can get up to a slow speed or rotation. Also, on a full load I hope it does a few extra spray rinses.
wp-dude22
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Fianlly WP fixed the VMW washers ...
i love that it behaves like both the early VMW's with the 180 degree stroke and 90 degree fast stroke of the DD.
normal cycle it sticks to the 90 degree stroke completely.
On cycles with deep water uses 90 degree stroke for 3 to 6 minutes before seamlessly going right into the 180 degree stroke. it also alternates between 90 and 180 degree strokes on deep water wash cycles which is a nice touch.
love that it kicks right into spin from drain just not sure if it goes from low speed spin to high one time. the VMW washers would ramp to low spin then stop completely before going into high speed spin.
i would rather WP do spin profiles for the consumer version have 3 speeds and do like GE kicks into spin a really low spin for about a munute then ramp up to med for a set time then spend most of it time on high or final spin speed for the cycle.
I can see these design tricking down the consumer WP and Maytag lineup i just hope the agitator on the WP line up get a blended design of original cabrio agitator(in the attached pic) and this one in the maytag.
i love that it behaves like both the early VMW's with the 180 degree stroke and 90 degree fast stroke of the DD.
normal cycle it sticks to the 90 degree stroke completely.
On cycles with deep water uses 90 degree stroke for 3 to 6 minutes before seamlessly going right into the 180 degree stroke. it also alternates between 90 and 180 degree strokes on deep water wash cycles which is a nice touch.
love that it kicks right into spin from drain just not sure if it goes from low speed spin to high one time. the VMW washers would ramp to low spin then stop completely before going into high speed spin.
i would rather WP do spin profiles for the consumer version have 3 speeds and do like GE kicks into spin a really low spin for about a munute then ramp up to med for a set time then spend most of it time on high or final spin speed for the cycle.
I can see these design tricking down the consumer WP and Maytag lineup i just hope the agitator on the WP line up get a blended design of original cabrio agitator(in the attached pic) and this one in the maytag.
Vid
mark_wpduet
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This is just crazy
It's like Twilight Zone crazy to me. I feel like I'm watching a washer dryer commercial from the 1970s/80s, but it's almost 2018.
It's like Twilight Zone crazy to me. I feel like I'm watching a washer dryer commercial from the 1970s/80s, but it's almost 2018.
Great video
I really can't think of a better use of the Maytag brand. Hope this machine sells well and drives people to the local appliance shops who need something to offer that Home Depot and Lowe's do not.
The only real competition for this machine is the used DD market, where great machines are always available for a song.
I really can't think of a better use of the Maytag brand. Hope this machine sells well and drives people to the local appliance shops who need something to offer that Home Depot and Lowe's do not.
The only real competition for this machine is the used DD market, where great machines are always available for a song.
MT HD Commercial Grade Washers
I am glad they are fighting back against SQ and I think they may have won when you compare the performance of this washer to the new SQ TL machines.
Now I do think that the SQs will e far longer lived and reliable, but the cleaning performance will be better on these VMW washers, unfortunately they still won't wash as large a load as the DD WPs because of the lack of a tub break.
As soon as we get a NEW SQ TL in we will do a cleaning performance test of both the new SQ and this MT machine and as a control we will also run the same tests in the greatest TL washer ever built, an approximately 15-20 YO WP built DD washer.
If anyone would like to visit to witness and assist with the testing get in touch.
John L.
I am glad they are fighting back against SQ and I think they may have won when you compare the performance of this washer to the new SQ TL machines.
Now I do think that the SQs will e far longer lived and reliable, but the cleaning performance will be better on these VMW washers, unfortunately they still won't wash as large a load as the DD WPs because of the lack of a tub break.
As soon as we get a NEW SQ TL in we will do a cleaning performance test of both the new SQ and this MT machine and as a control we will also run the same tests in the greatest TL washer ever built, an approximately 15-20 YO WP built DD washer.
If anyone would like to visit to witness and assist with the testing get in touch.
John L.
Maytag
Has some products that stand out above what whirlpool family of appliances offers in general. The commercial washer is one example. This dishwasher is another example: https://www.maytag.com/kitchen/dish...ful-dishwasher-at-only-47-dba.mdb7949sdz.html
Now if they had a model with top-rack-only wash option...
But not trying to hijack the thread. Just an interjection.
Has some products that stand out above what whirlpool family of appliances offers in general. The commercial washer is one example. This dishwasher is another example: https://www.maytag.com/kitchen/dish...ful-dishwasher-at-only-47-dba.mdb7949sdz.html
Now if they had a model with top-rack-only wash option...
But not trying to hijack the thread. Just an interjection.
wft2800
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Plastic outer tub... eh...
TBH I'd be more impressed with a relaunch of the 7500-series Neptune, just built tougher and with a redesigned door boot that drains down to the pump rather than accumulating moisture and mould. Update the electronics, connect it to a smartphone app, et voila. Proper rival to the SQ FLs. Relaunch the stacked version too, for similar reasons.
This thing here may be tough, but it's a relic of the 70s design-wise. At a time when large parts of the US are suffering from drought and even wildfire, more economical FLs are the only responsible way forward... with decent detergents, heat and tumbling action will work far better than an unheated water hog!
TBH I'd be more impressed with a relaunch of the 7500-series Neptune, just built tougher and with a redesigned door boot that drains down to the pump rather than accumulating moisture and mould. Update the electronics, connect it to a smartphone app, et voila. Proper rival to the SQ FLs. Relaunch the stacked version too, for similar reasons.
This thing here may be tough, but it's a relic of the 70s design-wise. At a time when large parts of the US are suffering from drought and even wildfire, more economical FLs are the only responsible way forward... with decent detergents, heat and tumbling action will work far better than an unheated water hog!
Maytag Branding...
Interesting they are calling this washer "Commercial for the Home" and in the dishwasher line they are offering "Heritage" models with more sound insulation and upgraded parts for a slightly higher price. For example MDB4949SD is the one at box stores and MDB7949SD is the more expensive one ($50 more) that looks to be available at smaller dealers. Look almost identical except the more expensive one is 47db vs 50db and the claimed upgraded parts.
Just glad to see Whirlpool giving people a choice of appliance types. With all the brands they now own they might as well make meaningful differences and I would do just what they are doing, making Maytag the "old school" premium brand (and priced accordingly.) I can't wait to see John L's tests of this VMW in DD clothing.
As a FL Neptune owner nothing would make me happier than to see a reboot but given that many people blame it (rightly or wrongly) for Maytag's demise I doubt it will ever happen. The Neptune was introduced in 1997 so I guess it moves to the Imperial forum next week? Boy - do I feel old!
I love this VHS Maytag shipped with their first Neptune models. Busy executive mom teaches dumb jock son how to use the newfangled washing machine. It just screams 1990s.
http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVgNjZXQudE
Interesting they are calling this washer "Commercial for the Home" and in the dishwasher line they are offering "Heritage" models with more sound insulation and upgraded parts for a slightly higher price. For example MDB4949SD is the one at box stores and MDB7949SD is the more expensive one ($50 more) that looks to be available at smaller dealers. Look almost identical except the more expensive one is 47db vs 50db and the claimed upgraded parts.
Just glad to see Whirlpool giving people a choice of appliance types. With all the brands they now own they might as well make meaningful differences and I would do just what they are doing, making Maytag the "old school" premium brand (and priced accordingly.) I can't wait to see John L's tests of this VMW in DD clothing.
As a FL Neptune owner nothing would make me happier than to see a reboot but given that many people blame it (rightly or wrongly) for Maytag's demise I doubt it will ever happen. The Neptune was introduced in 1997 so I guess it moves to the Imperial forum next week? Boy - do I feel old!
I love this VHS Maytag shipped with their first Neptune models. Busy executive mom teaches dumb jock son how to use the newfangled washing machine. It just screams 1990s.
http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVgNjZXQudE
A refreshing breath of air
A TL which actually washes and rinses with water!
As to all the ladies complaining that it uses too much water - nothing is ever going to satisfy you. Go buy one of those that uses four drops to wash and two drops to rinse.
A TL which actually washes and rinses with water!
As to all the ladies complaining that it uses too much water - nothing is ever going to satisfy you. Go buy one of those that uses four drops to wash and two drops to rinse.
speedqueen
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Comparison test.
John, is there any chance that you could include a 2017 SQ in the comparison too?
If I wasn't in Michigan I'd come and watch myself.
John, is there any chance that you could include a 2017 SQ in the comparison too?
If I wasn't in Michigan I'd come and watch myself.
Spin and Tumble
I remember when Electrolux had a sight called "spinandtumble.com" (IIRC) It was for the Frigidaire "first generation" front loaders after the Westinghouse models.
I believe it is long gone. Jeesh that must be 20 years or more now too. I was still young and desirable back then.
I remember when Electrolux had a sight called "spinandtumble.com" (IIRC) It was for the Frigidaire "first generation" front loaders after the Westinghouse models.
I believe it is long gone. Jeesh that must be 20 years or more now too. I was still young and desirable back then.
spinandtumble.com
Still around on the web archive. Good videos too, although not as fun and corny as the Maytag one.
I also thought about buying one of these when I was looking at the Neptune.
Both were made in Iowa, the Electrolux one in Webster City. Electrolux closed the Webster City factory in 2011.
http://web.archive.org/web/20010404050324/spinandtumble.com/
Still around on the web archive. Good videos too, although not as fun and corny as the Maytag one.
I also thought about buying one of these when I was looking at the Neptune.
Both were made in Iowa, the Electrolux one in Webster City. Electrolux closed the Webster City factory in 2011.
http://web.archive.org/web/20010404050324/spinandtumble.com/
Oh! Yes!
Gibson washers! I remember the VHS tape that came with these when you bought them. Was astonishingly photogenic.
Gibson washers! I remember the VHS tape that came with these when you bought them. Was astonishingly photogenic.
I would...
I would actually buy this washer! I never thought I'd say that about anything new!
I would actually buy this washer! I never thought I'd say that about anything new!
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