New Miele G 7000 dishwasher with PowerDisk

[mielerod69]

Hi Everyone,

My Miele G6827SCi had a total failure after only 3 years, Miele swapped the machine over for a new G7919SCi.

So far, this machine is one of the best Miele dishwashers I have used. I was never very happy with the old model and I also thought something was never quite right with it.

Anyway, Miele delivered the new machine and took away the old one. I installed it myself and here are some pictures.

So far, I have tried a number of wash programs and everything comes out spotless, even hard baked on foods. The PowerDisk is very convenient and sometimes I still like to change detergents around.

The machine is very quiet and I can't believe how it cleans so well with so little water. Each fill is around 3 litres and an Auto program uses 12 litres for a full cycle. If you select Extra Clean, the dishwasher will add a prewash if the cycle doesn't normally start with one as well as an additional rinse.

The other feature this dishwasher has is SuperVison. I can track what the washing machine is doing from the control panel of the dishwasher.

 

[jerrod_six]

Rob

Thanks for your information on your 7000 series dishwasher. Questions though. If the program already has a prewash can you add another one to it? If so will you tell me what that does? Does it do 2 prewashes before the wash?

In the supervision panel can you actually see the stage your washing machine is in like you can with the phone app?

 

[agiflow]

Did Miele switch to a plastic bottom arm now ?

 

[henene4]

Plastic bottom arm

The G7000 series has an entirely new wash system. All spray arms are plastic and very low internal volume.

The bottom spray arm also is the retainer for the filter, so to get to the filter you remove the spray arm.
Has a little twist release.
Quite nice, actually.

I have the entry line 7000 series G7100SCi.

Extra Clean does not add a second pre-wash to cycles like the Intensive or Delicate cycle.

Any sensor cycle forces a pre-wash, QuickPowerWash/QuickIntenseWash gets one aswell which was surprising.

It also elevates wash temps in the Auto cycle AFAIK.

More interested in what happened to the 6000 series machine that it got exchanged after 3 years only.

Has to have been multiple major parts going at once!

 

[jerrod_six]

Henene

Does your sensor wash already have a prewash or you mean it doesn't have one and extra clean will add one?

MIeleRod - I would also like to know what problems you had encountered with your 6827 machine since I have a G6987 - six series also.

 

[henene4]

Sensor decides of it needs a pre wash or not.
High soil means a pre-wash, low soil skips it.

Extra Clean will force this prewash even with a low soil condition.

 

[agiflow]

Just seems like cutting for corners for a company that is considered a premium brand.

 

[brisnat81]

Patrick, they've been plastic for 30 odd years. The bottom part is plastic, its just stainless sleeve on top. The middle arm is plastic totally and its only the top cuttlery sprayer thats been all metal.

Rodney, that looks great. I've got a full set of spare racks to go into my 6905 as they'd all rusted in the first 18 months, I've been hanging onto the spares until it gets bad enough to need to replace. Racks aside, the only issue I've had with mine is the inlet flow sensor, which they replaced under warranty at the 3 year mark.

I've never had an issue with the cleaning performance on mine, what were you finding?

 

[agiflow]

I didn't know that. Thanks !

 

[washingpowder]

@brisnat81

That's surprising. I have a G894 and the bottom arm is fully stainless.
That said, I'm having issues with a sticking inlet valve so in considering repair vs buying a new one.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

Program Sequence

What is the sequence for each program including the normal program?

 

[mielerod69]

SuperVision

Hi Jerrod_six,
SuperVision will only show the remaining cycle time on the dishwasher screen. You don't have the same functionality as the app.
If you select the Express option with the Auto program, it now starts with a prewash, where in the G6827 it would start with the main wash.
I also want to mention that the bottom spray arm holes are larger than the previous G 6000 series which I also think contributes to a better wash. The spray arms also work individually rather than top/bottom then middle, so 100% pressure in every wash arm.
I have also attached the program sequence chart.
I'm liking the QuickPowerWash with IntenseZone option. As I have my dishwasher connected to hot water, it only takes 60 minutes to complete or 48 minutes without any options.

 

[jerrod_six]

MieleRob

Thanks for this information. If you will can you post a pic of the middle spray arm? I am interested to see the holes and their placement in the arm. I like that the express option will include the prewash on some programs. My 6 series works like yours in that the prewash was skipped with the express option. On most programs mine won't change the prewash water anyway, instead, it just dispenses the detergent into the prewash water and starts the wash.

You mentioned having a total failure on the 6 series What problems was it having?

 

[rolls_rapide]

Miele G 7000 Series wash times

Regarding the 'Intensive 75°C' programme:

How long do the following sequences last, in minutes, roughly?

Prewash
Mainwash

I ask because my scraggy old Bosch - which incidentally I have never been happy with - does a prewash for 20 minutes (approximately), followed by 40 minutes of mainwash.

Usually, the prewash water is kept for the mainwash - and the detergent is merely added to that water.

Once in a 'blue moon' the performance is good. But most of the time it is pretty lacklustre. Tea stains are very troublesome.

 

[henene4]

On my 7000 series, post wash rinses and drytime are about the same for Delicate, Auto and Intensive.

Rinsing starts somewhere around 1:00 to 1:15h left in the cycle.

So pre-wash and mainwash are around 1:30h to 2h.

Haven't run Intensive often, so can't say for sure right now, but on Auto the Pre-wash was 20min.
Don't think Intensive did a different pre-wash to Auto.

Main wash however is staged heating from what I was abled to tell.
First it heated to a warmish temp and then up to max.

Haven't had issues with stains in mine, but neither did we in any Bosch we used.

 

[rolls_rapide]

Ah, thanks.

How long do the alternating spray arms operate for?

 

[gelaundry4ever]

normal program

How long does the normal program last? What's the sequence?

 

[mielerod69]

Spray arm and total failure

Hi,

Here is the pic of the bottom spray arm. The spray jets in the new model are larger than the previous G6000 series.

@gelaundry4ever there is no Normal program. This has been changed to PowerWash, you can see the sequence in the program table.

@jerrod_six the total failure was a slow internal leak that wasn't detected when the machine was only 18 months old and the heater relay went on it. The salt reservoir in the door must have been leaking for a while which caused the salt to build up under the machine and short out the dishwasher.

This was only discovered when they came a second time and a senior tech came along and pulled the machine apart.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

So...

Why did they rename the normal program power wash?