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Excellent manuals with lots of detailed information and customisable programming.

Instruction manuals are available online.

Two washer models

WWH860 and WWF060

Two heat-pump dryers

TWI180WP and TWF160WP
 
I have a pair of these machines and they really are outstandingly good.

They have swapped the doors around on the new range I think because it followed the logic that people move things left to right and start with the washer and move to the dryer.

I'm glad to see they've updated the Twin DOS button. I would assume that was because of feedback in Europe and I wouldn't be surprised if it changes here too. The original layout works but it's too easy to forget to put the system on. It has a single touch button that triggers a menu asking you about Whites/Coloured clothes and light (less detergent), normal or heavy (prewash-added) soil levels.

Being able to leave the automatic dosing on permanently would be very useful but for some reason the designers don't let you do that on the model I have anyway. You have to activate it each time. That works OK if you're careful but we've one member of the household who keeps accidentally running the machine without any detergent.

Other than that they're very very good machines from a technical point of view.

Also the dryer is just too notch. Yes it's not huge by US standards but it's a very practical system and it gets the job done very gently and with minimal energy. We run the dryer a lot and going from a vented Miele to that T1 machine has cut the power consumption by a huge amount and I would much rather not add unnecessary emissions to the environment by using a dryer that's basically heating the back yard.

The washer is extremely quiet and the dryer is about as quiet as a dryer can be without putting it into a sound proof box.

Also the amount of heat they throw out to the room is minimal. They're nothing like a traditional condenser. They do release a little bit of heat but it's probably less than you'd feel from an externally connected vented dryer.

Also the Miele system for keeping the condenser clean is simple - a very very good filter in the plinth and two stage filtration in the door. Bosch messes around a lot with self cleaning condensers they rely on flushing the condensate through the condenser. Miele is far more simple and practical.

Word of warning:

Never, ever, EVER EVER even think about using dryer sheets in a heat pump dryer! You will cost the condenser and reduce the life of the machine. Also they just don't work as you won't get the same temperature profile as a traditional dryer. If you want fragrance - add it as detergent or conditioner to wash or use the Miele fragrance flacons.

Also the Miele detergent system is good, if pricy. The main thing to remember is it doses very precisely and quite sparingly compared to what you might do yourself and as a result you'll get a lot of washes out of one of the packs. Even so, it's still a bit eye watering pricy.

It basically consists of a custom manufactured high end colour detergent in the blue pack and a peroxide bleach (with optical brighteners too) in the clear pack. The machine doses the enzyme rich colour detergent first, does the breaking down of gunk phase then a shot of bleach goes in later, giving you a bit of oxidation and brightening.

If you select colours, as far as I'm aware of doesn't dose anything from the bleach cartridge.

So basically you're getting something closer to a commercial machine using component detergents.

The machines don't dispense fabric softener automatically, unless you opt to use the refillable tanks and just use a normal liquid detergent in tank 1 and fabric softener in tank 2.

Also I think the pod dosing is a complete gimmick! It's also an incredible waste of plastic and I'm really a bit surprised Miele even launched such a thing!

Their wool / silks detergent is excellent but just get the big container full of it. There's absolutely no advantage whatsoever to the pods. It's like Nespresso for washing machines! Only less useful.
 
I thought about posting this on monday when I found out about it, but I figured no one wanted to hear my fanboy freakout about it :P

Anyways, here is a bit more info.

They are planning on an April '18 launch.

Guess who has a set pre-ordered? ;-)

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Been looking through the manuals

At least we now have manuals with actual temperatures and spin speeds, and it looks like there are a lot of options available for each cycle - even if you want to wash baby clothes.

The normal cycle references the DOE regulations so perhaps the other cycles are not as strict as the normal cycle. We probably get no options on that cycle.

The soil level setting also controls the level of the rinse water, so I guess if you have a heavy soil load you are going to get more water in the rinses.

Selecting heavy soil automatically adds a prewash

One model provides power wash similar to LG which continuously sprays clothes

I like that the manual describes the soil levels; for example normal soil is defined as clothes with no visible soil, or those with a few soil marks.

Separate rinse and spin cycle

About 20 different cycles for different types of clothes

120V machines with heaters

Temp's are defined as:

warm 85F

warm+ 105

Hot 120F

Hot+ 140F

Sanitize 170F

You can use a pin code to prevent the washer from being started by children

You can increase the 25 minute prewash up to 37 minutes
You can increase the water level in the rinse in the settings - good for those with allergies

It gives load values in pounds like we use in North America, Max load is 17.6 pounds if that means anything.

It has a phone app for Android and Iphones.

So things look better than before - at least from the manual.

The heat pump dryers are interesting and If I used electricity to dry my clothes I might consider them.

The machines are stackable, but I guess.. don't be too short lol.

You can buy a stand to raise the washer so that's good too.
 
You'll have to make do for now

Until Miele releases machines in USA won't find anything yet on the site:

https://www.miele.com/pmedia/ZGA/TX2070/10375400-000-00_10375400-00.pdf

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1145488/Miele-Wkg-120.html#manual

Dryer:

https://www.miele.co.uk/pmedia/ZGA/TX2070/10255970-000-00_10255970-00.pdf

 
One's initial impressions

Both the W1 washer and T1 dryer seem interesting if not impressive. Especially when compared to what is currently on offer for USA laundry appliance market.

If am being honest am not totally won over by heat pump dryers, but will wait to see what reviews come out after Americans get their mitts on the thing and issue reports. Mayhaps ditch both the Whirlpool portable and AEG Lavatherm? Likely not, but then again one never knows, do one?

As for the TwinDos system, unless things have changed they aren't anything special detergent/laundry bleach wise. Taking away convenience and whatever neither actual product rated any higher than say a good TOL detergent like Persil.

 
W1

Bob,
Here’s a link to the WWH860 washer. These are impressive machines. I like that you change temp and spin speed settings to the actual temp and rpm and, of course the QuickIntenseWash cycles. Though, admittedly, I’m glad I didn’t wait to buy a new machine and went ahead with the Little Giants.
Manuals are on the US Miele site. Go to Customer Service, then my manuals and type in the models number. HTH

 

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