Finally got my SQ replacement. Here's a video of large load of 12 bath towels. SQ recommends filling the drum to the top, but not cramming it. The towels hold a huge amount of water and the washer did a good job of getting rid of the water during the final spin...adjusting to add spins. The 45 min heavy duty cycle took 59 mins and the towels were spun out correctly. The washer seems a little noisy in the video, but it's from the iPhone amplifying the sound. During wash and rinse cycles you can barely hear it. Enjoy.
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that a whole lot of water was introduced unless the towels "drank" it all up. IN fact, it seems that there is hardly any water in there.
Have you done other loads and if so, is there noticeable water in the drum?
that a whole lot of water was introduced unless the towels "drank" it all up. IN fact, it seems that there is hardly any water in there.
Have you done other loads and if so, is there noticeable water in the drum?
That's a very appropriate water level for well-cleaned clothes. They are saturated and tumbling around and getting rid of dirt. Thank you for taking the time to video and post the video. I have to admit I'm very disappointed it never fully cleared water out in the interim spins. reminds me very much of the 14 lb. Whirlpool & Kenmore belt drive washers. They always suds locked when doing cotton loads for both spins. Hence extra rinses. I'd be adding as many extra rinses as I could for the cycle and I know with SQ you can add multiple rinses. Just seems to be poor rinsing for me not being able to get rid of all the water and reach a reasonable spin. I was hoping with SQ getting rid of the burst interim spins it would have done better. And it took an extra spin portion to finally rid all the water while spinning. IO'm glad my machine has software that stops and lets it get rid of that suds locked water. I do like the washing action though.
Great vid, thanks!
I'm making popcorn
Question, can the water level be raised (adjusted)?
I'm making popcorn
Question, can the water level be raised (adjusted)?
I think I have the most thirsty towels in the world. And there were a dozen of them. The towels came out very dry and with no sudsy feel. I'm could have added up the 5 rinses but I didn't want a mini series of a video. I'll make a less demanding load of sheets next in the quick cycle. I'll use some Persil. That will have more suds. I used SA8 on this load which is virtually no suds.
NICE!
Just another good machine. Rinsing seems good enough. I just wish they made a mechanical control variant.
Just another good machine. Rinsing seems good enough. I just wish they made a mechanical control variant.
In defense of the SQ FL,
Thanks for the video. Hopefully I won't offend you, but mine has never sprayed water and suds on the window at all, much less through an entire spin and failed to empty. It was obviously suds locked. Mine has never done three separate spins at the end either, and that was because it sensed suds lock. I believe these things happened because it was way overloaded, with twice as many towels as there should have been. Either that or the pump trap is blocked with a coin or something.
Mine always rinses very effectively.
The water level on my machine always comes up to the top of the drum lip, and spills over a bit onto the door gasket, and is very generous compared to the other brands, although it's hard to see with the camera angle. After it fills, it pauses twice to see if more water needs to be added due to absorption, but it's rarely necessary. Based upon the same sloshing sound mine makes, I am sure it was filled higher than people think.
Now that I've had mine a few months, my only criticism would be that it always does those 3 ramp ups to balance the load, but the first one often is the best yet it never sticks with it, then the second one is always way off balance, and the third one ramps up way too slowly, with the result that an item or two will ball up in the center, and then finally drop in a ball as it ramps up more, causing an unnecessary unbalance sometimes. This happens more often with sheets, towels and jeans than with other items. They need to modify the software. Maybe it always does those three ramp ups for more uniform extraction. It usually speeds up and extracts more water on the first two ramp ups than it does in this video, where it seems very weighed down with too many heavy wet towels.
Thanks for the video. Hopefully I won't offend you, but mine has never sprayed water and suds on the window at all, much less through an entire spin and failed to empty. It was obviously suds locked. Mine has never done three separate spins at the end either, and that was because it sensed suds lock. I believe these things happened because it was way overloaded, with twice as many towels as there should have been. Either that or the pump trap is blocked with a coin or something.
Mine always rinses very effectively.
The water level on my machine always comes up to the top of the drum lip, and spills over a bit onto the door gasket, and is very generous compared to the other brands, although it's hard to see with the camera angle. After it fills, it pauses twice to see if more water needs to be added due to absorption, but it's rarely necessary. Based upon the same sloshing sound mine makes, I am sure it was filled higher than people think.
Now that I've had mine a few months, my only criticism would be that it always does those 3 ramp ups to balance the load, but the first one often is the best yet it never sticks with it, then the second one is always way off balance, and the third one ramps up way too slowly, with the result that an item or two will ball up in the center, and then finally drop in a ball as it ramps up more, causing an unnecessary unbalance sometimes. This happens more often with sheets, towels and jeans than with other items. They need to modify the software. Maybe it always does those three ramp ups for more uniform extraction. It usually speeds up and extracts more water on the first two ramp ups than it does in this video, where it seems very weighed down with too many heavy wet towels.
The spin seems very Miele-like: distribute the load a little and off we go... just to choke on all the water. *lol* I agree with Bob that the software should have been programmed to slow the spin a little, so that the suds can be pumped out and aren't just whipped around. Other than that, the cycle seems very reasonable.
Also: a big thumbs up for making seemingly one of the first videos from the United States of America that shows a properly loaded front loader. Not just a handful of clothes.
Also: a big thumbs up for making seemingly one of the first videos from the United States of America that shows a properly loaded front loader. Not just a handful of clothes.
@logixx
Our W5741 did EXACTLY that, presumably softened water didn't help.
All well and good having a no-nonsense programming (I dislike the fussiness of the F&P FL here), provided the machine can deal with the volume of water produced by it. Obviously, neither example can.
In the defense of Dan (and he noted this) the machine can be filled, but not stuffed like a European FL machine.
Provided the weight of the items didn't exceed the washer's pay-grade, I see no issue with expecting the machine to perform properly with a full load. The fact there was over-sudsing from a very low-suds detergent suggests the machine simply isn't able to deal with an at-capacity load of heavy cottons.
Following Bob's footsteps, I really dislike seeing an under-loaded machine. It pains me to see our washer run anywhere between 2-6 times every weekend, with 5-6 things on the Quick cycles, when everything could theoretically be washed together.
If manufacturers/energy-saving advocates wish for people to wash full loads; then performance in all phases of the cycle ought to be high enough to not need cycle modifiers (i.e. additional rinses) that use more water or energy.
What I can make of this is that perhaps washers should be tested in a worst-case scenario, with full or over-loaded loads of terry-cottons. If a washer can deal with this effectively, then everything else should naturally fall into place.
Our W5741 did EXACTLY that, presumably softened water didn't help.
All well and good having a no-nonsense programming (I dislike the fussiness of the F&P FL here), provided the machine can deal with the volume of water produced by it. Obviously, neither example can.
In the defense of Dan (and he noted this) the machine can be filled, but not stuffed like a European FL machine.
Provided the weight of the items didn't exceed the washer's pay-grade, I see no issue with expecting the machine to perform properly with a full load. The fact there was over-sudsing from a very low-suds detergent suggests the machine simply isn't able to deal with an at-capacity load of heavy cottons.
Following Bob's footsteps, I really dislike seeing an under-loaded machine. It pains me to see our washer run anywhere between 2-6 times every weekend, with 5-6 things on the Quick cycles, when everything could theoretically be washed together.
If manufacturers/energy-saving advocates wish for people to wash full loads; then performance in all phases of the cycle ought to be high enough to not need cycle modifiers (i.e. additional rinses) that use more water or energy.
What I can make of this is that perhaps washers should be tested in a worst-case scenario, with full or over-loaded loads of terry-cottons. If a washer can deal with this effectively, then everything else should naturally fall into place.
Thanks for the video, DanMan. I think terry towels with any detergent tend to suds up a bit and it is deceptive the longer it washes the more it suds. I would be willing to consider that when you repeat with sheets or clothing you will not have the suds froth that towels create. That is a very nice machine. Best of luck with it. It would be nice if they did the spray 1st rinse like the later Westy FL. machines, with the drain pump running, before the first spin. especially for the towel cycle. I am impressed with the spin, it took care of business without a lot of tub bouncing, I think that is the real FL killer. Congrats. A
I am disappointed with the intermediate spinning this washer . The fact that she throw water with foam on clothing leaves the ineffective rinse . My Duet 8 years only do this in extreme cases where there are much soap , and even then it aborts the spin and awaits the foam down. In this video you have my washer rinsing and centrifuging a huge load of towels, see that the spin happens perfect .
Spend a lot of money for a Speed Queen that is flawed does not make sense .
Spend a lot of money for a Speed Queen that is flawed does not make sense .
Speed Queen!!
thanks for the video - I love the SQ!
thanks for the video - I love the SQ!
Thank you Dan, and Congratulations.............
Now for all the nay sayers.............
For Pete's sake,
we are talking about a washing machine, a machine built and tested day after day in laundromats and public laundries.
As long as a load of 12 towels goes in dirty and comes out clean after 58 minutes who gives a crap about interim spins and such?
Give it a rest already.
The only truly well built and warranted top and front loaders in the USA are built by Alliance and sold under the Speed Queen label.
Clothes go in dirty, and come out clean, end of conversation.
By the way 12 BATH TOWELS IS A HUGE LOAD!!!
Best of luck with the washer.
Mike
PS....I am a big fan of Whirlpool and GE appliances, but I'd like to see someone try to connect with someone in the factory the way you can with Alliance!
Now for all the nay sayers.............
For Pete's sake,
we are talking about a washing machine, a machine built and tested day after day in laundromats and public laundries.
As long as a load of 12 towels goes in dirty and comes out clean after 58 minutes who gives a crap about interim spins and such?
Give it a rest already.
The only truly well built and warranted top and front loaders in the USA are built by Alliance and sold under the Speed Queen label.
Clothes go in dirty, and come out clean, end of conversation.
By the way 12 BATH TOWELS IS A HUGE LOAD!!!
Best of luck with the washer.
Mike
PS....I am a big fan of Whirlpool and GE appliances, but I'd like to see someone try to connect with someone in the factory the way you can with Alliance!
Thanks for posting the video Danmantn. It's always fun to see different brands of washers doing their thing.
I agree that your water level is fine where it is. Part of the reason HE front-loaders clean so well is the super-concentration of the detergent solution.
I was taken aback by the low water level of my first HE (a 2010 Frigidaire FL'er) but after a few loads you realize that it's using only the water it needs to wash and rinse well. Ben, (Hi, Ben!) for instance, is used to the traditional water level of a SQ TL'er, so I understand his concern that there isn't enough water in the FL'er.
May you wash many trouble-free loads with your new SQs! The solid warranty coupled with a 'made-to-repair' design is certainly a winning combination.
Note to Alliance: The only thing missing is an internal water heater.
I agree that your water level is fine where it is. Part of the reason HE front-loaders clean so well is the super-concentration of the detergent solution.
I was taken aback by the low water level of my first HE (a 2010 Frigidaire FL'er) but after a few loads you realize that it's using only the water it needs to wash and rinse well. Ben, (Hi, Ben!) for instance, is used to the traditional water level of a SQ TL'er, so I understand his concern that there isn't enough water in the FL'er.
May you wash many trouble-free loads with your new SQs! The solid warranty coupled with a 'made-to-repair' design is certainly a winning combination.
Note to Alliance: The only thing missing is an internal water heater.
mrb627
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Good Video
Nice video, Dan.
And I noticed that you had to glue a 'Q' on the front of it, too.
Malcolm
Nice video, Dan.
And I noticed that you had to glue a 'Q' on the front of it, too.
Malcolm
jerrod6
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I've never seen a vid of a Speed queen FL so I really appreciate you sharing it with us. I think towels are a special case for most washers because they tend to hold a lot of water along with suds, but your machine did a good job with them.
It would be great to see a vid of a load of everyday type of items like shirts, pants or even underwear.
Again thanks for making and sharing the vid.
It would be great to see a vid of a load of everyday type of items like shirts, pants or even underwear.
Again thanks for making and sharing the vid.
