New UK Persil tablets - about time!

[mark1973]

OOOOO The Surf looks interesting.

And liquitabs also. Im guessing it's the start of the Tablet phase out as there are no tablets in the line up.

I like liquids in the fact that they always seem to leave more fragrance on your clothes than powder. However im always put off with liquid not containing bleach and also the stories of it doing damage to the machine..The drum spider?

Im with you Nick in the fact that instead of a colour powder (Although I do have some) Im thinking about using a Bio liquid because I know there is no bleach.

Can someone explain what damage liquids do to the machine?

Im with Spoodles in the fact that How very confusing having just the Non Bio going into the drawer. We all know people will be putting the other variants into the drawer also. I don't think that was very well thought out by Lever.

Mark
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[spoodles]

I think liquid damage/corrosion to the spider is due to people over-dosing the stuff and not doing maintenance washes.

I use colour liquid for colours and bio powder for whites and for the maintenance wash, and it keeps everything in order!

On the new products, I do think it's a shame that Persil puts all its effort and money into non-bio these days. It just seems like a massive backwards step with inferior cleaning ability and hopeless claims about sensitive skin whilst making their non-bio powder reek of cheap perfume, that must surely send anyone's sensitive skin or allergies into overdrive.

 

[zanussi_lover]

surf capsules

its pretty wierd i would have thought they would have phased out liquitabs as they have the dissolvable plastic which is hardly eco friendly is it?

and yes i agree with the confusion with the tablets going into the drawer and the confusion with the bio/colour gel tablets.

and will removing the phosphates improve the cleaning performance? or remove it?

I much prefer the in wash net, its better that it goes to the heart of the wash rather than in the drawer

 

[nickuk]

Update

Hi

Used the tabs today for first time and will post pics of tabs in drawer, tabs fully dissolved, washing at 40 degrees and second rinse water.

I do like this product. The pics show that they fully dissolve, produce an appropriately sudsed wash, and rinse fairly well. The scent has been tweaked slightly and it's alright, it's a kind of generic Lever scent. Stronger, I asssume, for those folk who choose to wash in cold so that the scent covers up the residual dirt ;-)

Totally agree that it's a very odd decision to keep dosing bio and colour via the net. As I tend to use bio nowadays, and am loyal to tablet format, it would appear that Persil is still not going to rebecome my main product.

Along with Rob, I am also using Ariel bio sometimes (though tablets) and they have certainly toned down the scent to the extent that you can marry it up with certain fabric conditioners quite nicely. I see, Rob, that you are using a professional pack of concentrate blue Comfort?

My main three (all P/G tabs) are Ariel, Daz and Bold Purple. My fave scent of detergent on the market is Bold Purple. However, I have found Bold to clean significantly less well than Ariel or Daz. I haven't noticed a difference in cleaning
between Ariel and Daz, though I don't doubt that scientifically Ariel is slightly better as the ingredients list confirms. I slightly prefer, however, the scent of Daz tablets - STILL, despite the change in size, using original Daz vintage scent. I really hope all the recent stuff on here about tablets being phased out will not become a reality.

Interestingly, I have just had my third Son, Mark, who is now a month old. Have ignored all the marketing driven `guilt factor' feelings I have programmed into me - they even give you samples of Fairy in hospital - and washed all his clothes in Ariel/ Bold or Daz. He has had the best, clearest skin of all the boys so far.

Some will remember me championing Lidl's Formil tablets on here a while back. I love them in every way except cleaning. Over time, it became clear they weren't performing as well as my regulars.

I have yet to find a fabric conditioner which I really like the scent of. Still feel Comfort Pure is my fave, and it's certainly a nice match with Ariel or Daz tabs, but only as it's the `best of a bad bunch'. Prefer the scent of detergent. Recently tried some of the Olive Blossom one - wasn't happening for me - smelled of suntan lotion.

Apologies if this post doesn't make sense. Am looking after 3 boys as a I type! Who said men can't multitask?

Cheers

Nick

 

[nickuk]

Second pic

fully wash out from drawer and drawer recess no prob

 

[nickuk]

third pic

full load of child's bedding washing at 45 degrees

 

[nickuk]

fourth pic

second rinse water

 

[MrX]

They're obviously testing it out on the non-bio tablets before committing to it for everything else.

 

[paulc]

Well

My local Sainsburys still doesn't have the Persil Non-Bio tablets but does have the new Non-Bio powder. Same claim as the tablets "outstanding results" at 15 degC. Will get some tomorrow ( payday ) and give it a go.

 

[newwave1]

Nick!!! Congratulations on the 3rd little one!! What have you named him!

I'm totally with you on this one. I really didn't want to have to succumb to using non-bio. I'm really pleased louies skin can tolerate ariel! As it's my fav! That and i'm so picky with rinsing!!

I've yet to try these new tablets. Interestingly my new zanussi doesn't let me go below 40 on cottons or synethetics! I have a 30mini wash. Something tells me electrolux aren't behind the turn below 40...let alone 30! lol!!

Thats a lovely clear rinse you got with that load!!!

May have to buy a pack just to try. Mother dearest has used Persil non bio since it came out!!! She buys huge boxes of it lol! I always remember it was a real effort for me to get a bottle of ariel liquid now and again lol!!

Darren

 

[superelectronic]

I thought Persil was supposed to be no-suds?

Saturday night was my first time. Yes, fellow laundry-lovers, I went out and bought my first box of Persil non-bio!

My reasoning in this first time purchase was its alleged inability to create suds - not a factor that usually concerns me and indeed something I find off-putting (I know they're unnecessary but we all have our vices), but with the prospect of having the nets down this week I thought it might be a sensible purchase. I had to veto the bio version on account of the perfume...a friend of mine uses it and there's a twang of staleness about it even since the last tweak.

So now I've tried it out on the shower curtains (they have a similar propensity to lather uncontrollably, hence my normal Ariel is out of the question - usually I use dishwasher liquid with so-so results) and was disappointed that it's still a bit sudsy and will not be all I'd hoped for the nets. Plus it's now got that same Persil non-bio perfume as used in the liquid, rather than the plain perfume of yesteryear one might expect in a non-bio...the perfume in my housemate's Tesco non-bio powder is far preferable but I'm not 100% how it performs since he insits on doing his washing at 1am Friday night/Saturday morning (his odd and misguided laundry habits don't end there: acrylic knitwear and good work trousers on 60C cottons, ALL whites plus a pair of jeans on boilwash the other week - a surefire case of washday blues...).

So all in all, not too impressed and now I have a whole box to use up. I only need it once a fortnight! Darn...

As to phasing out the tablet net, well...I'm not moved either way. My concern regarding nets is that if your machine has a static heating phase (my machine, whilst of 1995 vintage, has 1975 style programming), those tablets are sitting barely dissolved whist the heater is dealing with the hard water. And if you have a modern low-water level machine, won't they take ages to dissolve properly?

Call me old fashioned, but brown packaging for a laundry product (the new Surf) seems somehow misguided...more choco cereal/sauce than detergent. I know whiter than white is less of a concern than it was but this to me sends out the wrong signals!

For me, it's a thumbs down for Persil. The perceived respectability of the brand has always irked me too in an odd way. High suds for twin tubs and top loaders, on the other hand, is another matter entirely! If only I had the means to use it...

Alex

 

[spoodles]

I tried some of the new Surf at the weekend. I got the liquid and it's underwhelming to say the least. Cleaning isn't bad, but the new scents are nothing special at all. No lasting fragrance is left once dried either.

It seems like they've followed Bold's lead of claiming a fragrance is 'luxurious', therefore that justifies it being more expensive and in a smaller bottle.

I also saw the new Persil Naturals range that are supposed to match the Comfort Naturals range. Bizarrely, they don't smell anything like each other!