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Vmax are the new Cabrio's and cousins (direct drive models).

I do agree Andrew...they have grown on me too! I like the way they sound lol. Aren't the high end GE impeller models of the same design? I wonder if they sound the same...
 
Why we have lid locks

The lid locks are here just as LordKenmore/John said, out of necessity. It was UL in 1971 that required baskets to stop spinning within 7 seconds when the lid was raised. This prompted a basket drive brake modification to WP washers, and others as well. The machines that could not or would not be modified to meet the requirement got a lid lock.

The VMW machines have no brake at all, thus the lid lock. Consumers seem to so hate those locks that I have to wonder if WP managers wish they had never designed them.

Gordon
 
Cooooool, thanks! Looks like they are going back to more like the older design that I had in my Kenmore 28102. Taller fins probably give better "bloom".
 
Interesting...

I like the new Kenmore impeller, however I worry about how gentle it will be. I was on Maytag's webpage yesterday, and I found that they look like they could be selling the Duet Sport under the Maytag name again. This machine uses more water (WF ~3.7) and has a sanitize cycle, etc. I would consider this machine.
 
I've been drooling for the past hour just looking through all the pictures on that site. That new Cabrio with the dispensers mounted on the cabinet has me itching for a new machine already haha. I was wondering how long it would be before they went back to the Oasis style dispensers, and thank god they did, because that drawer is awful. Now the drawer is just reserved for the Load&Go dispenser so it only has to be used periodically. I love the grey color they used for the wash plate and tub bottom, so I'm hoping the design they're using for this front mounted control style will also carry over to the traditional control panel model as well.

They're killing me with these gorgeous revamps. I'm torn between a TOL Duet and a TOL Cabrio, WHY CAN'T I JUST HAVE BOTH!! Lol. The new styling of the Bravos XL is quite sleek as well, I love the way they made the lid so that it covers edge to edge. Beautiful. I need a slightly wider laundry room so I can have my dream of having a top loader, a front loader, and a dryer, all hooked up side by side.

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I have thought of that, but the only storage I have in the room is the shelf above the pair, and I would have to take it down and modify it. It's not an impossibility though! I would love to have the FL pair on pedestals because it looks much nicer to me. I'm not opposed to that idea if I get the chance to find a set for a good price however.
 
After experiencing how heavy that Duet Sport was, I'd be worried about putting a full size FL on a pedestal along with the weight of the dryer on top as well. The Duet Sport was only 3.4 cu.ft so I'm sure anything near 4.5, which I'd prefer, would be a little heavier. I'm sure a condenser dryer would be even more weight added to the equation, and that's the only dryer I'm planning to even consider whenever I get the chance to replace mine in the future. Hopefully by that time, we'll be in a different house with a larger laundry room to accommodate them easily.
 
According to the Whirlpool access site...

...there is another model, wtw4816fw. It offers the current VMW control panel with the round knobs with the traditional two piece corkscrew agitator like the 4616. Is this a new model as well? The model nomenclature makes me think so.
 
I'm glad to see them offering a traditional agitator model again. I wish they would use the VMW platform solely for the agitator machine, and reserve the VMAX design exclusively for the Cabrio line. Using the VMW and VMAX/Oasis platforms for both BOL Cabrios and flagship models has just stirred up too much confusion, and only brings the high-end line down because of the reputation the VMW Cabrio gets. That's why there are people who have bought the entry model Cabrio or Bravos X that now hate anything to do with either word, not realizing that there are two completely different machines that behave and perform very differently that have the same name. I mean, Vantage could have been a perfectly good name to use for the Oasis and VMAX in the US just as it is in other countries. Or why not just Oasis? Because I think that's an awesome name as is.
 
Whirlpool played their cards right...

They (re)released these two models just as GE phased out their Hydrowave models. Now Whirly is the only brand selling a true agitator washer other than SQ. Great way to grab all the market share!! This makes me wonder if GE will put out another agitator model based on their new platform. Most of their products seem to be copycat WP designs, although they look the part.
 
Finally a normal agitator yay .. the agipeller thing to me didnt seem like it did much.
I do wish they would do like the low end washers we get here in Trinidad and go all stainless steel with the drum like the image i shared.

Honestly WP could give the agitator a revamp im sure a design like what the first gen cabrio used would be great or they can get a more compact dual action design but im honestly glad to see a normal agitator.

Secondly i agree with murando ... direct drive for higher end washers only (cabrio).
PSC motor for lower end washers only and work on the noise levels of the lower end mostly during draining.

Im also a big fan of the WP classic design ... the Amana looking control panel does not sit well with me...

one more thing just give the user choice WP i mean a extra small, small, medium, large, super plus and Auto sense would be good enough flexibility where water levels are concerned

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