Newer Kitchenaid dishwasher see-through in action, opinions requested

[whitetub]

HI,

Here is a link to a youtube video of the newer KitchenAid dishwasher in action.

Not bad, from what I can see. Not sure if we can still call it a 'Hurricane in a Box" !! Anyone here who owns this dishwasher, let us know what you think of the results. I am shopping for a new dishwasher, since my Fisher Paykel drawers are now working at 50% (one drawer stopped working). And I will not spend one more dollar on that piece of crap.

Let me know of your experience with the KitchenAid with the railroad crossing 4 way Hydro-weep.

Thanks,

 

[johnb300m]

Here’s another.
I made this some time ago in my KDTE304G

 

[mrsalvo]

My experience with KA is not good, reliability issues. I found that they eat control boards. Have had mine replaced 3 times since last Sept, it was still under warranty so I had Lowes contract repair out to 'fix it'. Was on first name basis with repair guys. My KA was 4 1/2 years old when it went out. Am extremely disappointed and soured on Whirlpool. Shopping for a new DW, taking my time.

Barry

 

[revvinkevin]

 

 

Wow, I guess KA's quality has gone down hill (like with everything these days?).  I only replaced my 19 year old KA DW on 12/30/18 is because the heating element stopped working a couple years ago.   Never had any other problems with it.

 

I replaced it with a new Bosch that I've been very happy with.  It's whisper quiet and cleans better than the KA ever did. (doesn't leave yibbles on things in the corners of the upper rack).

 

Thread about the new Bosch:

Last big purchase of 2018 - a new dishwasher

My 18 year old Kitchenaid has worked well for many years and I really liked it. But a few years ago the heating element stopped heating and having no filter, it would often leave "yibbles" on items placed in each corner of the upper rack OR in those corners of the cabinet. A few days...

www.automaticwasher.org

 

Kevin

 

[mattl]

I'm coming up on 2 years with my KA and I have to say I love it!  In that time I've taken out 2 maybe 3 dishes that did not come clean - and I do not every rinse.

 

[easyspindry]

I've had my F&P . . .

. . . Drawers for 12 or 13 years and have been very pleased with them. No problems whatsoever. And one thing I like is that if there is a problem with the motor, it is very easily replaceable. Mine are quiet and to an excellent job of cleaning.

Good luck with your search.

Jerry Gay

 

[whitetub]

Thanks for your replies. Great video, johnb300m.
Great to know that they wash well, if the control board doesn’t fail.
I am used to Bosch dishwashers in the two previous houses.
I already spent 200$ last year on the F&P drawers.
After moving in this house that came with them. They are quiet and wash ok, not great. But the loading capacity is just too small, and the racking system is so badly designed.
They are already 7 years old. And one has a dented panel.
One drawer still works, so I can shop for a new machine slowly.

Thanks

 

[whitetub]

Consumer Reports buying guide July 2019.

 

[johnb300m]

Interesting ratings!
It seems you have a good chance of having a fairly reliable and good performing machine if you choose a Bosch or Whirlpool product.

Further interesting how spotty some of the WP products seem to be.
LOL no surprise Elux/Frigidaire are near the bottom.

I get it. A few people out there have issues with their KAs.
But they do have 5yr parts warranties on their racks and control boards.
That’s why I bought mine.
My “old” GE was 2.5yrs old when the racks started rusting and the motor started leaking!
1yr warranty only on GE.

 

[Unimatic1140]

My apologies but I had to delete that.

Hi Guys, as much as I love seeing ratings like, posting anything current like that is way against the law as it is copyright infringement. If it was 40 or more years old normally it wouldn't be an issue, but this could get the person who posted it in trouble and I certainly want to avoid that.

 

[murando531]

It's a very brief clip because I haven't gotten around to editing together a more detailed shot, but here's a close up of the X-arm in the KDFE104H model. I can't remember why I had the filter removed...I think I was trying to see where exactly those downward jets were aimed and actually hitting, but there's still too much water **gasp in an eco-nazi-pond-pump dishwasher? gasp** in the way to really see where it's hitting regardless of the filter in or out. But it keeps it clean either way, so...

 

[thomasortega]

Hurricane in a box?

For me it's more like a fart in a bathtub.

 

[tolivac]

The dishwasher shown is pathetic-would rather wash my dishes by hand than use that dishwasher!How long does the cycle run?

 

[mattl]

My cycles run about 2 hours.  Bothered me at first, now it's a non issue.  I've had a number of DWs over the decades from a late 60's KA to the Ge 2800, plus a few in between and this is the best performing unit I've had.  Nothing comes out with a speck of soil on it.  It's a perfect match for the new detergents.  I've got a WP "hurricane in a box" in my basement for odds and ends and it may blast stuff clean but modern detergents don't cut it in that machine.

 

[mark_wpduet]

Control boards

When I bought my dishwasher (Maytag) in 2014, I was skeptical as I had done research and noticed a lot of control board issues on ALL brands! I wondered to myself if people who have issues with the control board always use the dry cycle? For me, I open the door as soon as it's done to let everything flash dry, so I never use it. I could be wrong, but the dry cycle seems like it would create more heat and steam that could get into the board? It's just a guess. I don't know. I also heard that using the self-clean feature on your oven can harm control boards too.....I read that here somewhere I believe.

 

[tolivac]

At this point waiting 2hrs for a load to cycle in the dishwaser-will continue to wash by hand and not waste my money or time on slowpoke sprinkler dishwashers.

 

[jamiel]

Agree with Matt--new machine with new detergent works as well or better than anything I've ever used. I've had experience with 4 entirely satisfying d/w over time....a GE 1200 with the passive filter; a White-Westinghouse (!!) in an apartment which was far far better than any apartment d/w had a right to be and had the most intelligent racking system I've used, a Whirlpool Powerclean and the current Bosch. Jam the Bosch full--a tab of good detergent/2 tabs of house-brand and 2h 20 later everything clean, dry, hot, sanitized and done.

 

[thomasortega]

Dishwashers in Brazil ALWAYS took 2-3 hours to complete a cycle (always 110v and always cold fill), so the cycle length doesn't bother me. what bothers me is the mediocre sprays, but again, everything comes out sparkling so, who cares?

 

[whitetub]

Bosch dishwashers seems to have much stronger sprays. Especially the upper rack. Maybe that’s why my pots seemed to come out cleaner in the top rack. They get washed by the bottom and top spray arms alternately at all times. See link below