mrb627
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It was bound to happen...
Malcolm
Malcolm
News: Baby Dies After Ingesting Tide POD
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liberatordeluxe
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Awwww that's dreadful. Poor baby rip.
hoover1100
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And just why
Exactly was the baby ever allowed near harmful chemicals?
So I guess that will be P&G sued because of bad parenting now...
Exactly was the baby ever allowed near harmful chemicals?
So I guess that will be P&G sued because of bad parenting now...
I wonder if it looked like a teething ring, shiny and colorful.
danemodsandy
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So Sad....
....But I wondered how long it would take. Those things look entirely too much like candy or a toy.
....But I wondered how long it would take. Those things look entirely too much like candy or a toy.
polkanut
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Why are these things kept out where small children can get at them in the first place? When my nephew was a toddler I always made sure that the laundry room door was closed & locked. Why can't people take responsibility for their own actions or inactions? I also would put the assorted chemicals up on a shelf that he was unable to reach. DUH!!!
mrb627
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Link to story
http://touch.orlandosentinel.com/#story/os-detergent-pod-death-child-20130815/
Malcolm
http://touch.orlandosentinel.com/#story/os-detergent-pod-death-child-20130815/
Malcolm
whirlcool
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In legalese Tide pods could be considered an "attractive hazard". In other words their danger is not immediately apparent to all.
To make them safer they'll probably have to make them black with a bright green Mr. Yuk symbol on them.
To make them safer they'll probably have to make them black with a bright green Mr. Yuk symbol on them.
launderess
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First & Foremost One Has The Deepest Sympathy
For the mother, her loss is beyond measure.
That being said the matter has nothing to do with P&G and everything with not exercising proper caution.
Woman placed the pods in a laundry basket on the same bed as the infant and "turned her back for a moment"... by the time she returned the wee lad had eaten one detergent packet and started on a second.
You *NEVER* turn your back on an infant or toddler for a moment. The things clock zero to sixty faster than a Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG. You most certainly do not place any sort of poison (that is what the detergent packets are) within reach of a child then leave it alone. Not for a moment, or second, or whatever.
Sad thing is this took place at a battered woman's shelter so the mother probably was already having issues in her life. This only will add to her woes. One prays God will give her the strength to carry on.
For the mother, her loss is beyond measure.
That being said the matter has nothing to do with P&G and everything with not exercising proper caution.
Woman placed the pods in a laundry basket on the same bed as the infant and "turned her back for a moment"... by the time she returned the wee lad had eaten one detergent packet and started on a second.
You *NEVER* turn your back on an infant or toddler for a moment. The things clock zero to sixty faster than a Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG. You most certainly do not place any sort of poison (that is what the detergent packets are) within reach of a child then leave it alone. Not for a moment, or second, or whatever.
Sad thing is this took place at a battered woman's shelter so the mother probably was already having issues in her life. This only will add to her woes. One prays God will give her the strength to carry on.
arbilab
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The shelves at Kroger are PLASTERED with warnings about pods and the hazard they represent. They look like yummy playthings and as said one can NEVER turn one's back on an infant for an instant with a hazard anywhere accessible to them.
In 1952 my sister was "safe" in her crib, with a light on the wall over it. So what did she do? Grab the electric cord and bite it. She was burned and scarred but otherwise unharmed and the scar was corrected later. Kids will do things adults can't imagine. Wonder anyone survives childhood.
In 1952 my sister was "safe" in her crib, with a light on the wall over it. So what did she do? Grab the electric cord and bite it. She was burned and scarred but otherwise unharmed and the scar was corrected later. Kids will do things adults can't imagine. Wonder anyone survives childhood.
In the latest Consumer Reports there was a warning about this very danger with pod detergent packets. P&G is developing a locking lid for the pod container but that takes time.
I saw the highly rated (CR) Kirkland Signature detergent pods (96 load $13.99) the other night at Costco but didn't grab them, typically don't like pre-measured liquid detergent. The container was plastered with stickers warning of the danger but that is no deterrent for a curious toddler.
I saw the highly rated (CR) Kirkland Signature detergent pods (96 load $13.99) the other night at Costco but didn't grab them, typically don't like pre-measured liquid detergent. The container was plastered with stickers warning of the danger but that is no deterrent for a curious toddler.
Pod Safety
I have to agree with Launderess about the need for parents to keep detergent pods (and all cleaners for that matter) away from children's reach, along with constant supervision. Since we don't have any kids (and our three Boston Terriers can't jump to the shelf above the washer), it's not an issue. My local WinCo also has warnings where the pods are displayed.
I did buy the Kirkland Signature pacs during our recent Costco run, based on the "Consumer Reports" ratings. Will they replace my Sears Ultra Plus? Can they get white things white and colors bright? Stay tuned....
I have to agree with Launderess about the need for parents to keep detergent pods (and all cleaners for that matter) away from children's reach, along with constant supervision. Since we don't have any kids (and our three Boston Terriers can't jump to the shelf above the washer), it's not an issue. My local WinCo also has warnings where the pods are displayed.
I did buy the Kirkland Signature pacs during our recent Costco run, based on the "Consumer Reports" ratings. Will they replace my Sears Ultra Plus? Can they get white things white and colors bright? Stay tuned....
They make these in bright eye-catching colors to sell them to us. They could make the pods look like a turd or put them in a colored container, but who would buy them.
If they make a locking lid, then some other group will start complaining that they can't open them.
Babies will grab anything! Maybe parents of young kids should buy powdered detergent. How may kids could stand to take a bite of that?
If they make a locking lid, then some other group will start complaining that they can't open them.
Babies will grab anything! Maybe parents of young kids should buy powdered detergent. How may kids could stand to take a bite of that?
That`s horrible, hard to imagine what the poor mother must be going through now.
"the boy had eaten one packet of the highly concentrated detergent and was starting on a second one"
Starting on a second one..... seriously ? Isn`t there a cheap bitter tasting chemical (Bitrex) around that could have saved the boy`s life ?
I`d put at least part of the blame on P&G !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denatonium
"the boy had eaten one packet of the highly concentrated detergent and was starting on a second one"
Starting on a second one..... seriously ? Isn`t there a cheap bitter tasting chemical (Bitrex) around that could have saved the boy`s life ?
I`d put at least part of the blame on P&G !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denatonium
sarahperdue
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Parents, children and throwing stones
This was a tragic accident. Twelve or thirteen years ago, I might have been very quick to condemn this boy's mother. Now, I have two boys--aged nine and eleven. I cannot count the number of stupid mistakes I've made. I am blessed and fortunate that the closest my mistakes have come to tragedy is a near miss. I think that if we are truly honest with ourselves, all of us can recall moments of distraction that could have resulted in tragedy.
My heart and prayers are with this mother, and I will throw no stones.
Sarah
This was a tragic accident. Twelve or thirteen years ago, I might have been very quick to condemn this boy's mother. Now, I have two boys--aged nine and eleven. I cannot count the number of stupid mistakes I've made. I am blessed and fortunate that the closest my mistakes have come to tragedy is a near miss. I think that if we are truly honest with ourselves, all of us can recall moments of distraction that could have resulted in tragedy.
My heart and prayers are with this mother, and I will throw no stones.
Sarah
mrb627
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More and More...
Parents are coming forward complaining their children have gotten sick after tasting a detergent pod.
Malcolm
Parents are coming forward complaining their children have gotten sick after tasting a detergent pod.
Malcolm
danemodsandy
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Here's My Opinion:
I think that those who posted about less-than-perfect parenting have a point.
But I also think that P & G has released a product into a marketplace that common sense should have told them not to put there.
Everyone and his brother and his little spotted dog knows that people are rushed, multitasking, self-centered, gabbling into cell phones and in general not paying nearly the attention to kids people used to give their offspring.
In such a social climate, the release of a product that damn near jumps up and down in front of kids singing, "Eat Me! Eat Me!" seems to have been a most unwise decision.
In a perfect world, detergent pods might have worked out just fine. The world we live in is not that world.
I have a good, hot hunch that liability concerns are going to bring the "pod revolution" to a screeching halt in the not-too-distant future.
I think that those who posted about less-than-perfect parenting have a point.
But I also think that P & G has released a product into a marketplace that common sense should have told them not to put there.
Everyone and his brother and his little spotted dog knows that people are rushed, multitasking, self-centered, gabbling into cell phones and in general not paying nearly the attention to kids people used to give their offspring.
In such a social climate, the release of a product that damn near jumps up and down in front of kids singing, "Eat Me! Eat Me!" seems to have been a most unwise decision.
In a perfect world, detergent pods might have worked out just fine. The world we live in is not that world.
I have a good, hot hunch that liability concerns are going to bring the "pod revolution" to a screeching halt in the not-too-distant future.
mrb627
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Well...
I will say that my dogs cannot tell the difference between the sound of the Tide pod bag opening or the Newman's dog biscuits. So I have little doubt that a dropped pod would be slurped up like a dog treat. For that, they are not allowed in the house...
Malcolm
I will say that my dogs cannot tell the difference between the sound of the Tide pod bag opening or the Newman's dog biscuits. So I have little doubt that a dropped pod would be slurped up like a dog treat. For that, they are not allowed in the house...
Malcolm
rolls_rapide
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I think the problems are twofold.
1: Parents aren't paying enough attention to their children;
2: Those Pods are brightly coloured, attractive to children, and are not being manufactured in proper child-resistant packaging.
1: Parents aren't paying enough attention to their children;
2: Those Pods are brightly coloured, attractive to children, and are not being manufactured in proper child-resistant packaging.
You can just coat them in Bitrex which is a horrendous tasting ultra bitter substance that causes an immediate gag reflex.
Dishwasher detergent pods have been around for quite a long time and liquid detergent pods have been used in Europe for quite a long time too and I haven't really heard many stories like this.
Dishwasher detergent pods have been around for quite a long time and liquid detergent pods have been used in Europe for quite a long time too and I haven't really heard many stories like this.
kenmoreguy89
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I just say one thing........ of course as probably more sensible people pointed out the mother was in a shelter house, so we do not know what she passed, we do not know the "state" her mind was in that moment, we maybe cannot even imagine the troubles she had to pass before, maybe she passed situations that are in one's worst nightmares..so we cannot know what was going on in her mind in that moment....
Before screaming at "bad parenting" we also have to imagine not everyone have had the luck in life our mothers and us do have had....but of course it was her lack leaving the laundry product and the baby next each other and just get away...
I just say one thing, a general speech....times are changed, in the era of always more stressed parents, neo-moms re-taking employment too early, concerning about making the ends meets etc.... moms and dads don't need detergents looking like candies! I always keep saying that there is somethng wrong in certain today's way of doing things, lifestyle and ways to run a family..... but since this is the way things goes lately and since things like this may and do happen both for a distraction ( that could be cause of so many reasons that I don't feel I'm entitled to judge or comment situations i don't know) or for simple ignorance....well, I say... since this is a threat and P&G knows it well, the story about pods being exchanged as candies is well known and old... why the hell they don't change these damn pods to something which is less attractive for childrens??? I mean...okay..it's parents fault if they eat them... okay...but do you really wanna keep playing at "it's my fault no it's yours" like idiots or would someone really take on end the matter as smart people and avoid it to happen???
This is a thing that can be easy changed with simple things, warning people to store them away from chldren would and does not always work, for exapmple how for the medicines bottles in the years the packagings are changed from the simple twisting caps to the push-in baby proof ones or any other sort of baby-proof stuff packaging we use daily that today is considered the norm (and actually used even where there is no need or that much of risk)...why just don't turn them another shape? Parents, whenever just too overstressed or just too stupid don't need these kind of things to watch out for, you want a pack of pods forgot or dropped by mistake in the back seat near your baby/babies by a single mom, after a long stressful day coming home from a laundromat, or stupid ignorant parents just leaving the package near their washer because too lazy to put it on the top, in both of occasions childrens are the ones that pays here and since there is an a well known attraction to eat these pods from babies rather than other detergents powder or liquids or simple plain pods and tabs (for which we never hear such stories), please do something! .... That's my point of view, so after this may P&G act like a responsible company wthout just caring of profits and make their part on it.... irresponsiblity can't just be solved with irresponsibility in return..writing warning on packages may assolve you from the penal one, but real and common/sense responsibility is else IMO!!!
Before screaming at "bad parenting" we also have to imagine not everyone have had the luck in life our mothers and us do have had....but of course it was her lack leaving the laundry product and the baby next each other and just get away...
I just say one thing, a general speech....times are changed, in the era of always more stressed parents, neo-moms re-taking employment too early, concerning about making the ends meets etc.... moms and dads don't need detergents looking like candies! I always keep saying that there is somethng wrong in certain today's way of doing things, lifestyle and ways to run a family..... but since this is the way things goes lately and since things like this may and do happen both for a distraction ( that could be cause of so many reasons that I don't feel I'm entitled to judge or comment situations i don't know) or for simple ignorance....well, I say... since this is a threat and P&G knows it well, the story about pods being exchanged as candies is well known and old... why the hell they don't change these damn pods to something which is less attractive for childrens??? I mean...okay..it's parents fault if they eat them... okay...but do you really wanna keep playing at "it's my fault no it's yours" like idiots or would someone really take on end the matter as smart people and avoid it to happen???
This is a thing that can be easy changed with simple things, warning people to store them away from chldren would and does not always work, for exapmple how for the medicines bottles in the years the packagings are changed from the simple twisting caps to the push-in baby proof ones or any other sort of baby-proof stuff packaging we use daily that today is considered the norm (and actually used even where there is no need or that much of risk)...why just don't turn them another shape? Parents, whenever just too overstressed or just too stupid don't need these kind of things to watch out for, you want a pack of pods forgot or dropped by mistake in the back seat near your baby/babies by a single mom, after a long stressful day coming home from a laundromat, or stupid ignorant parents just leaving the package near their washer because too lazy to put it on the top, in both of occasions childrens are the ones that pays here and since there is an a well known attraction to eat these pods from babies rather than other detergents powder or liquids or simple plain pods and tabs (for which we never hear such stories), please do something! .... That's my point of view, so after this may P&G act like a responsible company wthout just caring of profits and make their part on it.... irresponsiblity can't just be solved with irresponsibility in return..writing warning on packages may assolve you from the penal one, but real and common/sense responsibility is else IMO!!!
kenmoreguy89
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I agree with you Sandy in most of what you said....
It seems we have had some serious injuries
"Doctors at Children's University Hospital in Dublin, Ireland, noted that over a six-month period, they had treated six children with alkali eye injuries caused by liquid detergent tablets. The children had squeezed the tablets, causing them to burst and spray detergent up into their eyes."
More below:
http://news.e-healthsource.com/index.php?p=news1&id=527368
"Doctors at Children's University Hospital in Dublin, Ireland, noted that over a six-month period, they had treated six children with alkali eye injuries caused by liquid detergent tablets. The children had squeezed the tablets, causing them to burst and spray detergent up into their eyes."
More below:
http://news.e-healthsource.com/index.php?p=news1&id=527368
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