beats up Artey's blanket!
BOY DID IT GET CLEAN THOUGH!
I should have made before and after pictures!!
Knock on any Norge!!
BOY DID IT GET CLEAN THOUGH!
I should have made before and after pictures!!
Knock on any Norge!!
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The agitation speed looks substantially faster than the video of Robert's 1956 Norge.
That baby is really moving some water around!
That baby is really moving some water around!
Gene
I'm tellin ya this machine rocks! If you've seen Robert's Wizard in action the agitator in this Pig moves just as fast!
Artey is a very happy dog tonight!
I'm tellin ya this machine rocks! If you've seen Robert's Wizard in action the agitator in this Pig moves just as fast!
Artey is a very happy dog tonight!
magic clean
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1968 or so, Kelivinator washers & dryers were made by Norge. They were very similar in appearance to the Norge machines detailed in the literature that was scanned in another thread. VHQ washer and 8 cu.ft Fan-jet dryer. I think this lasted a short while until they became Franklin style machines around 1970.
Anyway, the Kelvinator washers had a 'ramp' type agitator & the 18lb tub. That agitator combined with the aggressive Norge transmission created an extremely vigorous wash action.
In all the years hanging out here, I've never seen a Norge based Kelvinator machine. The reason I have a remembrance of this is because my dad did bookeeping for the Kelvinator distributor in upstate NY. They had an Avocado pair on display in their showroom that was hooked up for demonstration. Of course the few times I went with him to that office we had to watch the washer!
1968 or so, Kelivinator washers & dryers were made by Norge. They were very similar in appearance to the Norge machines detailed in the literature that was scanned in another thread. VHQ washer and 8 cu.ft Fan-jet dryer. I think this lasted a short while until they became Franklin style machines around 1970.
Anyway, the Kelvinator washers had a 'ramp' type agitator & the 18lb tub. That agitator combined with the aggressive Norge transmission created an extremely vigorous wash action.
In all the years hanging out here, I've never seen a Norge based Kelvinator machine. The reason I have a remembrance of this is because my dad did bookeeping for the Kelvinator distributor in upstate NY. They had an Avocado pair on display in their showroom that was hooked up for demonstration. Of course the few times I went with him to that office we had to watch the washer!
Boy oh boy!! That filter pan looks almost exactly like our's did toward the end of the machine's 6 year existence at our house. In fact, chipped in the same place lol. But the color of the pan was exactly the same as ours. Monkey Ward's version was grey and wasn't quite as big. Now I gotta admit, I never considered that machine a pig. DD Whirlpool products wrere the only pigs I've ever considered. I usually cleaned the filter after each load but many times I wated for two or 3 loads. I know there were times when I would do certain types of loads (but I can't remember exactly what they consisted of) that the filter pan would get completely full of lint by the end of the rinse andthe water would just go over the sides. The lady across the street only used her machine on medium and the loads were such that the clothes usually didn't circulate, but basically went back & forth with the washer. The washer replaced the L1000 Westy like you have Jon. Her dryer was a frog-eyed with the sun-burst looking dial just like the washer version you have. So, that's why she did medium size loads in the Monkey Wards, try to match load size. I think she got her machine the summer before we got ours. anyway, when we got ours, I figured I'd do 1/2 loads to match the dryer (still a non-lighted Norge Timeline with no temp knob). My insisted a full load was to be washed and then split in to 2 loads for the dryer. We did this until February when the matching WrinkleOut dryer arrived on the tailgate door of the 1960 Kingtwood Estate Chevy Wagon lol. My dad had a customer who was a Norge distributor so dad got a good "deal". I remember him bringinng the sales brochure home for my mom to look at and for me to also. I vividly remember seeing the exact washer you have Jon. I think there was one more model between the model you have Jon and the TOL DispensoMat we ended up with. I think the auto dispensers was the only reason why my mom wanted the machine--so she wouldn't have to go back and add softner and bleach to the old GE (non-FF that looks just like the one you grew up with Jon). Our panel was more at an angle--exactly just like what Ben's 68 or 69 Moneky Wards tap & wash model. The model next up from yours may have had that same angled panel, but I don't remember. The lady across the street ended up replacing her 64 model with a near TOL Wards burper that had an ex-low agitation speed. My mom referred to this one as a Thrashing Machine--I think by then we had the Kenmore 800. So now, I'm wondering if the replacement tranny that's in your machine is more from that vintage, which would have had an even more aggressive agitation--resulting in what you see because I don't remember ours being quite as aggressive and water so intensely sloshing around the tub on high like you had in the previous video. Incidentally, that med. water level is exactly where our medium level +1 one dot was. We had a sliding varial water level lever. Medium resulted in more splashing and noise. Toward the end of the machine's life due to my abuse beccause I hated the washer, any water level which resulted in quite a bit of splashing that went over the top of the tub shell on top, ended up on the floor and trickling down the wall and into the breakfast room via the door. So the mom ended up putting a towel in the front right corner on the floor lol.
Eugene, yes the agitation is substantially faster. We used a Norge Cleaning Village equipped with TimeLines before the new Norge arrived--the GE was leaking at some copper tubing in the fill mechanism and mom had been wanting a far more modern machine for a while and this gave her to perfect opp. to put the heat on my dad I spoze lol. Anyway, I hadn't seen a timeline work until the 2001 convention--all those 38 years. And when I saw it work, I thought it was so anemic and pathetic, wondering if it could clean anything when loaded to its full capacity.
Here ya go Bob
Artey created some lint but not as much as I expected-He's a clean little dog!
Artey created some lint but not as much as I expected-He's a clean little dog!
Bob-shot ot timer
Here is a timer shot for ya!
Here is a timer shot for ya!
see here is the bizarre under skirt
I have not seen a Norge with this under skirt. The tranny is tucked up inside and Robert and I are having a hot debate as to whether the tranny is exposed to water inside this drum!
Any takers with experience here?
I have not seen a Norge with this under skirt. The tranny is tucked up inside and Robert and I are having a hot debate as to whether the tranny is exposed to water inside this drum!
Any takers with experience here?
Jon, I am wondering if that is the case with the exposed tranny. I think trannys were the major failure for these machiknes if I remember right. Jon, thanks for the timer shot. Can you make out what the wash times are for Gentle? The Monkey Wards across the street had a speed setting knob, wasn't timer dependent. The same cycle ssegment was called short wash and had 1 or 3 minute settings. The number for the fragile washables cycle button and corresponnding number on the timer dial was a 3 minute wash. Needless to say, I never matched cycle button muber with timer wash time setting. I set my own time.
Vintage Tide + this Norge = Intensified Tide lol.
Let's see a Westinghouse Laundromat try to beat THAT at the sand test!!!
Your 64 Norge looks a lot like the 69 Monkey Wards!
Hey Jon, does that motor pivot back and forth on a slide from agitate to spin?
If so, I think that machine may have the same setup as my 69 Monkey Norge.It has the fast agitation as the later Norges and MW models.The same tub ring, ect.
I think that the skirt acts as a shield for the rotating transmition, plus as a support for the entire tub/and transmition.
Thats a very cool looking machine Jon! Thanks for posting the pixs and videos!
Hey Jon, does that motor pivot back and forth on a slide from agitate to spin?
If so, I think that machine may have the same setup as my 69 Monkey Norge.It has the fast agitation as the later Norges and MW models.The same tub ring, ect.
I think that the skirt acts as a shield for the rotating transmition, plus as a support for the entire tub/and transmition.
Thats a very cool looking machine Jon! Thanks for posting the pixs and videos!
fredfred9633
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wow
whackin the dirt out of that blanket
whackin the dirt out of that blanket
Those old 'Noge's with the three-vane agitator were very aggressive, however,IMO, the edges on those agitators were very rounded and thus did not tend to do serious fabric damage.
The newer four-vane agitators were very squared-off and IMO could be very rough on fabrics unless one was careful to give the clothes plenty of water to move around in.
Even so, 'Noge owners with the newer four-vane type can almost always tell a story or two (or more) about how those machines may wash very well, but tend to "tear-up" their clothes.
Anyway, thanks Jon! A fun post! I remember how shocked I was the first time I saw a Perf-tub 'Noge at one of their "Laundry Villages". I had to spend some time in there peering into some of them to see how they operated. I can just imagine what some of those people thought----what with some strange kid snooping around!
The newer four-vane agitators were very squared-off and IMO could be very rough on fabrics unless one was careful to give the clothes plenty of water to move around in.
Even so, 'Noge owners with the newer four-vane type can almost always tell a story or two (or more) about how those machines may wash very well, but tend to "tear-up" their clothes.
Anyway, thanks Jon! A fun post! I remember how shocked I was the first time I saw a Perf-tub 'Noge at one of their "Laundry Villages". I had to spend some time in there peering into some of them to see how they operated. I can just imagine what some of those people thought----what with some strange kid snooping around!
