whirlcool
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If it is, this is what could happen! Not for the faint of heart! I only wish this owner knew that what he had was an Amanatag and not a true Maytag!
Norgetag Squeak.
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You got it spot on!
It looks like my Amanatag, it certainly sounds like my Amanatag, BY GOLLY IT MUST BE, my model of Amanatag! Sadly, I don't have a video camera, but that's my machine and my problem to a T, although my laundry room is a bit neater than his. How much longer do I have, and how soon will my landlord pull the plug?
Also, if the tub seal fails during the cycle and the water level drops, will the machine start to fill with water again, but because of the leak, not ever be able to fill up enough to close the fill-valve, resulting in water flooding out of the machine until someone finds the mess and shuts it off? Imagine the creative use of profanity that might take place in this situation!
Should I buy a boat?
Dave
It looks like my Amanatag, it certainly sounds like my Amanatag, BY GOLLY IT MUST BE, my model of Amanatag! Sadly, I don't have a video camera, but that's my machine and my problem to a T, although my laundry room is a bit neater than his. How much longer do I have, and how soon will my landlord pull the plug?
Also, if the tub seal fails during the cycle and the water level drops, will the machine start to fill with water again, but because of the leak, not ever be able to fill up enough to close the fill-valve, resulting in water flooding out of the machine until someone finds the mess and shuts it off? Imagine the creative use of profanity that might take place in this situation!
Should I buy a boat?
Dave
whirlcool
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I figured that was what your problem was, and the guy in the film experienced the impending Tsunami as well. I don't know enough about the Amanatags to know if it will fill up again while pouring water out the bottom. I would think that the water running all over the electrics would short the machine out before too long. Maybe one of our Amanatag experts here on the site could give you more insight.
Personally, I'd sit on the machine while it's running, just to be sure! And definitely put a pan underneath it!
Anyway, please keep up posted on your progress with this machine!
Personally, I'd sit on the machine while it's running, just to be sure! And definitely put a pan underneath it!
Anyway, please keep up posted on your progress with this machine!
brisnat81
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Is that really an amanatag?
All the Maytags we had over here with that control panel were dependable cares. The atlantis and the performa look totally different.
All the Maytags we had over here with that control panel were dependable cares. The atlantis and the performa look totally different.
Dave,
His laundry room looks like that because the damn thing puked its guts all over the place...
Yup, no reason why it should time out on that one. It will just wet all over the floor until you turn it off.
Like I wrote earlier, if I worked in marketing at Whirlpool, I'd be so thankful to those bright Maytag managers, I'd just do anything to keep them in business.
Best advertising their competitors could ever wish for.
Sigh.
The real tragedy to the whole thing is, it ain't the managers who took it in the neck when Maytag closed, it was the workers.
The consumers had already been screwed by the managers...
Whirlpool should seriously consider putting the name aside for a few years and then re-introducing it as a quality brand - with quality products.
Oh, who am I kidding?
His laundry room looks like that because the damn thing puked its guts all over the place...
Yup, no reason why it should time out on that one. It will just wet all over the floor until you turn it off.
Like I wrote earlier, if I worked in marketing at Whirlpool, I'd be so thankful to those bright Maytag managers, I'd just do anything to keep them in business.
Best advertising their competitors could ever wish for.
Sigh.
The real tragedy to the whole thing is, it ain't the managers who took it in the neck when Maytag closed, it was the workers.
The consumers had already been screwed by the managers...
Whirlpool should seriously consider putting the name aside for a few years and then re-introducing it as a quality brand - with quality products.
Oh, who am I kidding?
exploder3211
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Never mind what that squeek sounds like (sqeeking bed frame, lol), but if it where me i'd just ask for a new one and try and show him said video.. I wouldn;t want that hell in my house
I removed the front panel.
Ok, I got really brave and removed the front panel of the Amanatag and am watching the guts as it agitates. First, there is a fine black powder all over the horizontal surfaces which used to be the belt. The belt is not slipping, so far as I can tell, but it is wearing rapidly. Secondly, I have identified the source of the squeak!
As the machine agitates, the transmission lurches a little bit with each stroke of the agitator. Specifically, the whole transmission case spins during the spin cycle, and the brake is slipping during agitation. As the tub lurches back and forth with each stroke of the agitator, the brake chirps and squeals. Because the outer tub is plastic (oh, what quality), I can see the inner tub lurching back and forth inside during agitation. The brake pad is a flat piece of material, that is bolted into place along the side of the transmission. To engage the brake, the bottom of the brake-race rases up to sandwich the brake pad between itself and the top brake-race. Imagine a pulley that gets narrower to grip a belt and wider to disengage, except in this case instead of a belt, there is the brake pad.
It looks like the brake is too weak to hold the drum still during agitation, resulting in an indexing tub, of sorts. With each movement of the tub, the brake squeaks. Why is this happening? Is the brake pad worn, is the brake mechanism broken, or weak, or has something else broken, resulting in so much force being applied somewhere that the tub is forced to try to spin during agitation?
I will borrow a video camera and take some video later this evening.
Curious, and pissed at Maytag fo building this POS!
Dave
Ok, I got really brave and removed the front panel of the Amanatag and am watching the guts as it agitates. First, there is a fine black powder all over the horizontal surfaces which used to be the belt. The belt is not slipping, so far as I can tell, but it is wearing rapidly. Secondly, I have identified the source of the squeak!
As the machine agitates, the transmission lurches a little bit with each stroke of the agitator. Specifically, the whole transmission case spins during the spin cycle, and the brake is slipping during agitation. As the tub lurches back and forth with each stroke of the agitator, the brake chirps and squeals. Because the outer tub is plastic (oh, what quality), I can see the inner tub lurching back and forth inside during agitation. The brake pad is a flat piece of material, that is bolted into place along the side of the transmission. To engage the brake, the bottom of the brake-race rases up to sandwich the brake pad between itself and the top brake-race. Imagine a pulley that gets narrower to grip a belt and wider to disengage, except in this case instead of a belt, there is the brake pad.
It looks like the brake is too weak to hold the drum still during agitation, resulting in an indexing tub, of sorts. With each movement of the tub, the brake squeaks. Why is this happening? Is the brake pad worn, is the brake mechanism broken, or weak, or has something else broken, resulting in so much force being applied somewhere that the tub is forced to try to spin during agitation?
I will borrow a video camera and take some video later this evening.
Curious, and pissed at Maytag fo building this POS!
Dave
danemodsandy
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Sad But True...
"Curious, and pissed at Maytag fo building this POS!"
But don't you understand- this was how they kept their stock price up! Cheap quality at "competitive" prices...
As the lights go out in one factory after another, all across this great land of ours...
"Curious, and pissed at Maytag fo building this POS!"
But don't you understand- this was how they kept their stock price up! Cheap quality at "competitive" prices...
As the lights go out in one factory after another, all across this great land of ours...
A correction:
Please pardon my poor typing, my new wireless keyboard is acting up a bit. Also, we do not, nor have we ever, overload our washer. I don't know how the former tennants treated the machine, but we have been kind to it. The partially-indexing tub may have something to do with the lack of rollover and poor washing action.
Oh what fresh heck is this!
Dave
Please pardon my poor typing, my new wireless keyboard is acting up a bit. Also, we do not, nor have we ever, overload our washer. I don't know how the former tennants treated the machine, but we have been kind to it. The partially-indexing tub may have something to do with the lack of rollover and poor washing action.
Oh what fresh heck is this!
Dave
Forgot about the brake pads.....they are worn. Amanatags chew through those as well. The tub should not index at all. Those should be replaced. If they wear thin, then the tub will spin while agitating and swirl water over the tub ring onto the floor. Considering all the strikes against this design, might to time to replace it.
Considering all the strikes against this design, might be ti
Considering all the strikes against this design, might have been time to replace it the day it was installed!
Any ideas on how this design could possibly have been made worse, is that even possible? (Excluding designs by GE of the last decade).
Dave
Considering all the strikes against this design, might have been time to replace it the day it was installed!
Any ideas on how this design could possibly have been made worse, is that even possible? (Excluding designs by GE of the last decade).
Dave
I would take a GE washer of today over an Amanatag. Retrofitting the plastic outer tub and dual drive tranny seems to have done this design in. Also made it difficult to change brake pads and belts. Problematic from the get go.
To GE's credit they, at least, started from the ground up with a totally new design. GE also had brake problems in the beginning, but things seem to have smoothed out for laundry units built in Kentucky.
To GE's credit they, at least, started from the ground up with a totally new design. GE also had brake problems in the beginning, but things seem to have smoothed out for laundry units built in Kentucky.
Video of the machine.
I shot a short video of the guts of my Amanatag during agitation. It is my first video shoot so I appologize for its poor quality. Also, the inner tub lurches with the transmission.
I hate this machine,
Dave
I shot a short video of the guts of my Amanatag during agitation. It is my first video shoot so I appologize for its poor quality. Also, the inner tub lurches with the transmission.
I hate this machine,
Dave
gosh
I have spent time under a lot of machines through the years, but that, well, gosh - indexing takes on a whole new meaning.
I agree with you: This monster should have been drowned at birth - in any case before it drowns your house.
POS does not come even close.
Let your homeowner watch this video and I bet he handcarries your Maytag in place and sets it up for you.
I have spent time under a lot of machines through the years, but that, well, gosh - indexing takes on a whole new meaning.
I agree with you: This monster should have been drowned at birth - in any case before it drowns your house.
POS does not come even close.
Let your homeowner watch this video and I bet he handcarries your Maytag in place and sets it up for you.
exploder3211
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The GE FF here makes a similar squeek.. If i could get pictures up i would.
Update!
The warranty people are coming to "have a look" at the Amanatag this Thursday between 8:00 and Noon. We'll see what they have to say about it. I'm hoping the machine is suffering from a terminal case of being an Amanatag, and the serviceman (or woman) agrees and advises my landlord to put 'er down before the big flood. As I have advised my landlord, a replaced belt and new brake shoes may make the machine function like new again, but it does not change, or improve, the tub seal. I did buy a drip pan, but that will only buy time if it leaks.
Hoping for the worst, for the sake of me, my house, and my A208,
Dave
The warranty people are coming to "have a look" at the Amanatag this Thursday between 8:00 and Noon. We'll see what they have to say about it. I'm hoping the machine is suffering from a terminal case of being an Amanatag, and the serviceman (or woman) agrees and advises my landlord to put 'er down before the big flood. As I have advised my landlord, a replaced belt and new brake shoes may make the machine function like new again, but it does not change, or improve, the tub seal. I did buy a drip pan, but that will only buy time if it leaks.
Hoping for the worst, for the sake of me, my house, and my A208,
Dave
whirlcool
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If you want to see what kind of reputation these Amanatags have follow this link! It seems that there were several models of the Amanatag.
http://www0.epinions.com/search/?su...&searchbar_submit.y=0&searchbar_submit=Search
http://www0.epinions.com/search/?su...&searchbar_submit.y=0&searchbar_submit=Search
danemodsandy
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Wow.
Of the three models shown on the page, two get only one star out of five, and one gets one-and-a-half stars. Reading the comments is a class-action lawyer's dream- very consistent tales of premature failure and unresponsive service. It's very seldom you see a consumer complaint THIS pointed:
"The business school idiots who destroyed a great brand like Maytag should be deported to North Korea."
Whirlpool, you have your work cut out for you!
Of the three models shown on the page, two get only one star out of five, and one gets one-and-a-half stars. Reading the comments is a class-action lawyer's dream- very consistent tales of premature failure and unresponsive service. It's very seldom you see a consumer complaint THIS pointed:
"The business school idiots who destroyed a great brand like Maytag should be deported to North Korea."
Whirlpool, you have your work cut out for you!
I hate repair services!
The repair service was supposed to be here between 8:00 and noon today. THEY DID NOT SHOW UP!!!!! They also did not call to say why. I am calling tomorrow to get to the bottom of this. Is this typical of GE extended warranties?
Also, my Saab was towed to the shop today. Its third trip to the shop since Thanksgiving, and its second via tow truck during that time period. I think the people who made my Saab also made the Amanatag,
Dave
The repair service was supposed to be here between 8:00 and noon today. THEY DID NOT SHOW UP!!!!! They also did not call to say why. I am calling tomorrow to get to the bottom of this. Is this typical of GE extended warranties?
Also, my Saab was towed to the shop today. Its third trip to the shop since Thanksgiving, and its second via tow truck during that time period. I think the people who made my Saab also made the Amanatag,
Dave
danemodsandy
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GE Warranty Service
"Is this typical of GE extended warranties?"
According to a lot of people, yes. Peteski50 (I think that's the right username) had a lot of info about his travails with them posted to his "LG Nightmare Continues" thread, now sadly gone with the hiccup in the Super forum.
"Is this typical of GE extended warranties?"
According to a lot of people, yes. Peteski50 (I think that's the right username) had a lot of info about his travails with them posted to his "LG Nightmare Continues" thread, now sadly gone with the hiccup in the Super forum.
GE extended warranties
Hi Sandy,
My thread is in the Deluxe # 8486 and I appreciate the fact it is still their. I have no intension of dropping the issues weather or not the machine works. As for the GE extended warranties the problem mostly lies with their service with LG. They took on something that they couldnt handle. And legally they are responsible for my issues not LG. But I still want to do everything to make GE extended warranties and LG look bad because of the poor service.
Peter
Hi Sandy,
My thread is in the Deluxe # 8486 and I appreciate the fact it is still their. I have no intension of dropping the issues weather or not the machine works. As for the GE extended warranties the problem mostly lies with their service with LG. They took on something that they couldnt handle. And legally they are responsible for my issues not LG. But I still want to do everything to make GE extended warranties and LG look bad because of the poor service.
Peter
Great news!
The very nice serviceman came out and lubricated the brake pads on the Amanatag with WD-40. Although I do believe that someday WD-40 will team up with Duct Tape and save the world, I am unconvinced that WD-40 fixed the problem. The tub still indexes, it just does so silently, also it now squeaks and chatters going from swirl-away drain to spin. Fortunately this is all irrelevent because my landlord has decided to sell the washer before it floods the house. In its place will go my A208. Since the machine is to be sold, is the GE extended warranty transferable?
A much happier,
Dave
The very nice serviceman came out and lubricated the brake pads on the Amanatag with WD-40. Although I do believe that someday WD-40 will team up with Duct Tape and save the world, I am unconvinced that WD-40 fixed the problem. The tub still indexes, it just does so silently, also it now squeaks and chatters going from swirl-away drain to spin. Fortunately this is all irrelevent because my landlord has decided to sell the washer before it floods the house. In its place will go my A208. Since the machine is to be sold, is the GE extended warranty transferable?
A much happier,
Dave
Oh what fresh He## is this?
I am planning on moving the A208 up to the laundry room when I return from a vacation an about a week and a half. In the mean time my housemates will ontinue to use the Amanatag. Unfortunately, it has developed a new problem. It now clunks during agitation. I pulled off the front panel and had a look and this is what I saw:
The OUTER tub was trying to index! (It was straining at the suspension springs and the entire mechanism (Tubs, transmission, pump, and motor) were all twisting with each stroke of the agitator. This action was also putting a strain on the flexable hose between the pump (moving with the tubs) and the drain hosee (clampped to the bottom of the machine and not moving). The tub seems to rock back and forth more than it did before when pushed by hand, and the machine makes some godawful banging, groaning, and growling noises during spin. Will this machine hold onto life for another week and a half, or is it kaput? Either way I will be calling my landlord and the warranty people too.
Get this thing outta my house,
Dave
I am planning on moving the A208 up to the laundry room when I return from a vacation an about a week and a half. In the mean time my housemates will ontinue to use the Amanatag. Unfortunately, it has developed a new problem. It now clunks during agitation. I pulled off the front panel and had a look and this is what I saw:
The OUTER tub was trying to index! (It was straining at the suspension springs and the entire mechanism (Tubs, transmission, pump, and motor) were all twisting with each stroke of the agitator. This action was also putting a strain on the flexable hose between the pump (moving with the tubs) and the drain hosee (clampped to the bottom of the machine and not moving). The tub seems to rock back and forth more than it did before when pushed by hand, and the machine makes some godawful banging, groaning, and growling noises during spin. Will this machine hold onto life for another week and a half, or is it kaput? Either way I will be calling my landlord and the warranty people too.
Get this thing outta my house,
Dave
Dave,
When Steve and I took apart that Amanatag(pictured above), there was grease all over the inside and the spin sounded like a freight train. It was awful. My neighbor had that machine for only three years. She junked it and we tried to play with it before sending it to the Krusher.
Good Luck with your Vintage Maytag.
GadgetSwitch
When Steve and I took apart that Amanatag(pictured above), there was grease all over the inside and the spin sounded like a freight train. It was awful. My neighbor had that machine for only three years. She junked it and we tried to play with it before sending it to the Krusher.
Good Luck with your Vintage Maytag.
GadgetSwitch
