Now a WashDog Owner

[wight_rabbit]

Hi!

I posted a thread about a 3314L WashDog that I was looking to own it. Well now £62 lighter I am now the proud owner of this faithful breed.

What I can tell you all in a nutshell about the machine is:

Cosmetically VERY good. No leaks from the spinner or wash tub. The machine is also complete with the lift off work surface which has no marks or scratches.

The machine will spin when the dial is set to MOTOR or RINSE.

The Machine's faults are:

Will not pump out when spinning
Will not pump out when dial set to EMPTY TUB and spinner is spinning.

New pump on internet about £38

Wash pulsator will not work when dial set to MOTOR and timer turned to 4 minutes (or any minutes). Cannot find a replacement motor on web but can find brushes.

Inlet hose is present but has been removed and is quite perished.

The silver inlay on one of the knobs falls out but I have seen replacement knobs on the web for about £2.50

So basically it is a spin dryer that won't pump out at the moment!

 

[wight_rabbit]

Any help, advice, words of encouragement on my repair journey getting this back to life would be really appreciated and I am willing to swap email addresses and or phone numbers.

I have actually not attempted anything like this before so I may ask OBVIOUS and STUPID questions.

I REALLY want to get this machine going.

 

[mickeyd]

Wash Dog ;'D ~ Aren't we all!

Don't think I've seen one. Love the name. Any pix?

 

[wight_rabbit]

This is the actuality. THE machine!

 

[launderess]

Very Well Done Indeed!

Pump problems: Happens to us all myself included. Our nearly mint Hoover TT arrived with a bad pump so got a new one and swapped it out. For what it is worth the pump seems to be the weak link in Hoover TT washers. Sooner or later they will start to leak. They are also prone to jamming up with hard water minerals, powder detergent residue and other muck. Thing is once used these machines should be run every now and then and not just laid up stored away. Otherwise the aftermentioned gunk dries and clogs up the pump.

Inlet Hose. Again these often go. Don't know what material Hoover used for some but it isn't long lasting. You can peep around YouTube for Hoover vids to see how others have gotten around this problem since finding new is a challenge.

Have you had the back off to see if the motor is at least engaged when switched to "wash"? It may just be a lose or slipped belt or bit out of place.

 

[launderess]

Another Poster With HooverMatic Motor Woes

Some information just might prove useful:

http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?34371

 

[launderess]

Oh, And If You Haven't Already Been

There are at least two Yahoo.com groups for twin tub washers and those who love them. Lots of great information there including copies of manuals and repair information is open to members as well.

 

[gansky1]

Will it fit in the overhead bin?

I love that SS wash-tub and the blue top of the spinner is so pretty. As cute as our later Hoover twinnies were, the UK models make them look like a plastic dishpan. Congrats, a real gem!

 

[mickeyd]

Thank You for the pic, Wight Wabbit ;'D

Such a beautiful machine. What we wouldn't give for Stainless Steel--gets me every time.

 

[fido]

You need to take it apart a bit before you order any spares. Twin tubs do tend to stretch their belts so they are the first thing to check. Next, see if the pump will turn by hand. If it won't you should strip it down and clean out any soap residue.

 

[ozzie908]

Don't be scared to ask obvious and stupid questions

None of us bite " Hard "

I think most of us at some point have been in a situation where we needed a little advice and lets face it where better to start than this little corner of the net where there are plenty of people with more knowledge than Mr Babidge...!

My own little " washdog " has poorly internal organs at present I must attempt a repair soon.

Austin

 

[chestermikeuk]

Hoovermatic Washdog

Congratulations on your washer find and Welcome To The Club, their is a wealth of information and experience here, please ask away, after all it is how we all became knowledgable, the Hoovermatics are very simple machines to work on when you have the chance to take the back off and study it, a very mechanical machine with the exception of the auto-rinse and even that doesnt appear to go wrong often IMHO.

The pump is the weakest link but care and attention over the years will get you through, hoses are still just about available so buy two when ordering, better to have spares!!

Steve was it you asking about the repair pages for this model?? I have asked a man who has them, I have just moved and every other Hoover manual I can find (including fan heaters) but the two washer manuals, I left them in staffs on our last visit so have asked john to scan his and post - OR if anyone else has them then please post ASAP.

Enjoy the restore, Mike

 

[chestermikeuk]

"poorly internal organs"

Whats the issue Austin??

Mickey, yes those stainless gleaming tubs are rather special, but its nice to see a bit of colour as well, remember all those in Tom Andersons at the Hoover 100th??

Greg, much enjoyed taking yours for a test drive, do you still have the "Yellow Peril"? or has Fred bagged it yet?

 

[wight_rabbit]

I have some other historic appliances too as well as this twintub:

Hoover Constellation vaccuum cleaner
Hoover Dustette vaccuum cleaner
Russell Hobbs K2S kettle
Hoover Toaster
Hoover Steam Iron
Smiths Sectric Electric wall clock
Goblin Teasmade

 

[ozzie908]

" My poorly internals " Are....

the pump not only seeps into the spinner but also onto the floor

Have just finished using it again after trying to sort the problem but no good.

Austin

 

[sesteve]

Hi Mike

Yes it was me. I was after information about lubricating bearings etc but I have since found a WD40 product which seems quite good - White lithium grease. Couldn't see any reason why not to use it so put some on my T5090 as the spin can used to stick between uses and its worked a treat so far. I would still appreciate the literature if you can get it though. Any tips on getting a re-spray would also be welcome - where to take it, how far to strip down etc.

Gosh have you had to move all your machines as well then - I bet that was a challenge if you did. I did send you an email about a frigidaire spin dryer but I guess if you were moving you might not have caught up.

Austin - where abouts is the pump leaking? It sounds like you need new rubber cups to stop the water leaking into the spinner.

Cheers
Stephen

 

[wight_rabbit]

Brothers... I have an update for you. The motor on this is fine. The issue is a broken timer knob. It wont turn the timer. The timer shaft was turned with a pair of pliers and the wash side worked.it still does not pump out though

 

[sesteve]

Hey that's good news on the motor - I don't suppose its the same knob that the insert is coming off though is it?

The best thing with the pump is to disconnect the 3 hoses and remove the link to the control knob. Remove the 3 screws at the bottom holding it to the machine. You will then see a big wire clip that goes from the bottom across the top and back to the bottom. Release this from the top and the pump will pull in two. Inside the top part you will see 2 rubber cups that move from one side to the other to divert the water. they are fitted to a spring mechanism. If all looks ok there, remove the 3 green clips from the bottom of the pump which gives you access to the impeller. You can then check that it is all clean and connected correctly. To reassemble do everything in reverse but make sure the O ring seals are in place properly between the sections. hopefully that will do the trick. Take some pics while you are at it in case you get stuck.

Cheers
Stephen

 

[wight_rabbit]

Knobs. I need knobs.

I need two knobs. One for the timer and one for the water valve as it is this one that the shiny insert is coming out from.

I also need a drain hose and a filling hose. Also to sort the pump out. I have not looked into the pump properly yet.

How domyounrembe the knobs because I tried pulling it off the shaft but it would not budge. Also the controls are quite stiff so can these be oiled and I'd so what is best? Should the time be lubricated?

I am so glad the motor sprung into action. If I can sort the pumping problem and knobs I will have a 3314L with perfect paintwork, clean innards and a lift off work top.

 

[sesteve]

Knobs

The knobs are held on from underneath with a spring clip which you need to remove along with the linking rods to the controls. I wouldn't recommend taking the timer control apart to lubricate unless you really want too. You might find that after a good clean up the knobs may move more easily as it could be a build up of suds and scale that's made them stiff.

I had a quick look to see if there were any fill hoses available from where I got mine but no luck I'm afraid. You could buy 2 drain hoses and cut the end off one that goes into the sink and push the tap connector onto it.

Sounds like you are getting there. Pop some photos up when you get the chance so we can take a closer look.
Cheers
Stephen

 

[wight_rabbit]

Is this the fill hose it needs?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hoover-tw...en_Kitchen_Dishwashers_PP&hash=item2c63a2734a
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hoover-tw...en_Kitchen_Dishwashers_PP&hash=item2c63a2734a

 

[sesteve]

No thats for a T5024 - the hose plugs into the inlet on the top RH side. The photo is my next restoration project!!

 

[wight_rabbit]

Nice how about this. It says it is for a 3314L

http://www.tdspares.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=hse1042

 

[sesteve]

No that's not it either - too short. I've taken a picture of the one I got as I couldn't find one on the net

 

[wight_rabbit]

Hmm it looks like an Automatic machine's hose. The ribbing lines on it. The black thing on the end is that what you squeeze onto the sink tap?

I saw a video on YouTube and the WashDog owner connected the hose to the kitchen tap using a Hozelok adapter of some kind.

How does the hose you show connect to the machine to make the plastic spout under the lid work?

 

[vacbear58]

How it works

See the attached link for a video of how to use a 3314

 

[ozzie908]

Tanglematic....

I sat and watched my washer this afternoon and had some sheets and a duvet cover in it and boy did it live it to the name of " Tanglematic " How hard would it be to make it wash in both directions so it would untangle the washing?

Austin

 

[keymatic3203]

well done

in getting yourself a hoovermatic and also welcome to the club, sorry for being a bit late into this thread and your previous one, ive been full into the vintage christmas lights the past few weeks and your helping me to get back to the washers again.

I'm in agreement with the advice from steve and ozzie, I don't know how hands on you are with repairs, but your obviously up for the challange. Just tackle one component or problem at a time, you can soon see how things are assembled and how to dismantle them. As Steve siad the knobs are held underneath with circlips, with a a pair of long nosed pliers you shouldnt have too much trouble getting them off. If you want a couple of knobs I have a few spares, though they are pattern ones and a little darker than the originals, drop me an email if you want them.

Also if no one else has mentioned it it would be well worth, greasing the pulsator bearing. Follow steves advice for the pump, also if you can get the pulley off, take the pump impellor out and clean any lint build up around the shaft and grease the bearing up and reassemble, that will help the pump run more reliably. I also like to grease up the valve shaft as well, just to make the change from wash/spin to empty tub smoother, but you can do go on and on depending how fanactical you want to get.

Sorry but I don't have much in the way of service notes for these twin tubs, but I think we've covered all you need for the moment.

But the main thing is to enjoy it and ask away if you have any questions.

All the best, look forward to some photos

Mathew

 

[keymatic3203]

Fill Hose

just forgot your fill hose question, whenyou take the back off you will see the connection directly under the fill/rinse spout, the hose just pushes onto it with a spring clip or jubilee clip to hold it in place. Incase you thought it was more complicated than it is, theres no valves or anything, its all down to the user controlling the tap, if you run the tap the water will pour through the spout either into the spinner or into the washtub.

Again you'll see the operations on the youtube videos.

Mathew

 

[launderess]

Tangles

According to my service manual copy one of the reasons given for tangles is prolonged wash times. Goes furhter to say wash time should not exceed the max time alloted on dial.

What one does for badly stained/soiled loads is to run a wash, then allow things to soak for a half hour or so. Once that is done either drain and rewash or start up the washer for a short while and then start with the spinning/rinsing process.