Now I need all the positive vibes possible....

[kenmoreguy89]

Well....
You'll remember how wrong it went the Castor thing....
It started bad since the start...
But today...well today, retrurning to normal daily routine and so doing the usual weekly scan of ads after a week spent throughout the Piemonte with my family from Maine...
Unbelievably....the dishwasher of my dreams pops up...
And, guess what? NEW!!
I immediately grabbed the phone and called, a nice old lady answered..
She sounded immediately kind and polite, and available, I asked for the availability of a courrier pick up, she said she had to talk to her son and husband...
The son just called me now, and we agreed to a possible pick up with a courrier...he said they could pack it up and grab a pallet somewhere and agreed to ship...though they sounded reluctant to do it at first...and I probably sounded too harsh requesting it due to excitement...but someway he said OK.
I am hopeful they don't change their minds....that's why I need all the positive vibes to make this come true...it has the potential to end me with this beauty under my stainless kitchen in an heartbeat, and it will look great also in my future 60s style kitchen...
Unlike another washer....a dishwasher, a real one.. was really, really needed and hoped for in this house!
Finally!
YAY!
http://www.subito.it/elettrodomestici/lavastoviglie-vintage-treviso-105394294.htm

And this one use real water and really moves it!
Noisy? Maybe a little bit...but my house always has music playing so that's no problem..and water moving is music to my hears also....

The later model:

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[hippiedoll]

GOOD LUCK!!!

and positive vibes headed your way.

i know how nervous you can get when you are excited over something. and all the doubts start popping into your head!!
that is exactly how i was with the 806 & 808 pair that i just got.

take a deep breathe and think positive thoughts. if the son agreed to a courier pick up & agreed to ship this, than it sounds like it's all go!!!

but i will definitely keep my fingers crossed for you!!

buona fortuna il mio amico!!!

;o)

 

[foraloysius]

Noisy?

We had one at the gay community center in the eighties. Once a neighbour came over to ask if we were drilling in her wall when it ran. lol.

Full cycle is 60 litres of water IIRC.

 

[chachp]

Good Luck!!

<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva; font-size: 12pt;">Looks like a really fun machine.  I hope you get it!!</span>

 

[firedome]

cool looking machine...

what vintage? Some Indesits were Whirlpool in Canada, Italy also?
Dishwashers are such fun...good luck!

 

[kenmoreguy89]

Thank you Christina & all.
Yes Christina, when I called, the lady immediately sounded to be nice and available folks, unlike the people of the castor ...
And I had a good feeling about since the start, the son already emailed me the bank info for a money transfer and money are already on their way...
Maybe it's too early to cry "victory" but the matter is at a good point.....
They sounded like simple and kind people, the kind I like...the son said in the email that they're going to build a pallet on their own since his dad is a wood carpenter now retired....and he'll be happy to do that to keep himself busy... Aww
So, it should succeed as hoped.

Louis, ah yes...I remember you said that before....
Well.... I'll see that once it's here, my neighbors are noisy people and they couldn't and wouldn't be bothered by, they just couldn't hear it over their shouts LOL and they just have to dare come over and say something...I never did that in all these years because of their fights, TV or when the one above me starts singing sicilian songs like a mujahedeen, drunk on the balcony in summer mornings and afternoons....LOL
I don't think it may possibly be that noisy also.... I mean...my kitchen doesn't come in contact with any walls toward other apts, like indeed does my bedroom and hall, and the floors unlike the walls are very thick in this condo, so it shouldn't be a problem.
Then I am about moving in a 3 months.....so neighbors won't be a problem anyway...

I am so happy to have this dishwasher.....finally!
Looking forward to junk off the bosch! Dump it's the place it belongs![this post was last edited: 11/10/2014-16:44]

 

[kenmoreguy89]

What you mean for "what vintage?" or was it supposed to have a ! at the end?

Whirlpool branded indesits in Canada?
I'd have never guessed....

I knew Ignis had involvement with Whirlpool, and also with the Philips that IIRC was Dutch (we can see that even in South America, more precisely in Venezuela whirlpool made machines were branded Philips over there see ex: http://listado.mercadolibre.com.ve/lavadora-philips ), over here, Ignis made whirlpool, better say whirlpool bought ignis after a partnership that lasted about a decade and you started having Ignis aka philips made machines branded whirlpool inititally...then evolved on their own under Whirlpool management....

Speaking of Ignis Diomede addressed me to an aquintance of him that had a original Ignis dishwasher to sell, but price was too high and machine too far...I was about getting though..
Original Ignis were good dishwasher also, but I just have this thing for the Indesit and I like them more and I think they're better in many ways....

Many of the older (late 70s and 80s) Ignis were made in Germany and had the typical shapes of the Philips machines....
Like this;


To me the acquistion of Ignis from Whirlpool signed the decay of the Ignis quality people knew.....
You just cannot compare the original Ignis to the machies made after whirlpool aquistion...not sure what happened, but whirlpool here became great thanks to Ignis and philips...don't know how to consider whirlpool here, if as an evolution of Ignis and philips or else...all I can see is what were Ignis machines before and what they became after...
I am not a fan of Whirlpool Europe anyway... they make decent machines for the current average european standards ( standards which have never been mine)... but not anything special... and of course nothing like the US counterparts for sure, night and day difference......
Speaking of washers...for example...
The lastets acceptable quality machine that came both as Ignis and as Whirlpools that I have seen, was the toploader with the glass top ( but still ignis/philips in it's nature)....after that...forget about whirlpool and Ignis....

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[kenmoreguy89]

P.S

Another correlation of the Philps and Ignis can be seen with the brand Phonola.
Phonola was acquired by Philips in 1969...
Phonola washing machines were nothing but Ignis...
These machines came with 4 names, Phonola, Philips, Ignis and Whirlpool.

http://www.exnovovicenza.com/2014/05/lavatrice-whirlpool-top60.html

 

[mielerod69]

Indesit LS-12 and Ignis dishwashers

Brings back memories. My grandmother had the Indesit LS12 and my aunt had the Ignis dishwasher in Italy. I loved using them when I would go and visit.

 

[kenmoreguy89]

Seller sent me this today asking if it looked OK... so kind.....
I booked the courrier, Monday should leave and I should receive in 3 days...Wednesday or Thrurday.
So excited!!! Bosch is already in the corner waiting to go to the scrapper.

 

[kenmoreguy89]

Courrier picked it up.

It's on its way....It's on its way..it's on its way...
Can you see me doing a silly dance about it???? LOL

Soon the pics!

 

[hippiedoll]

yes i do see you,

doing a silly dance & shaken' your booty too!!!
and i'm doing the silly dance right along with you, on this side of the computer;
it's on it's way,
it's on it's way,
it's on it's way.....
WOOOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

hm hm hm.....

;o)

 

[kenmoreguy89]

And here it is!!!!
Really, I didn't think possible that for me a "washer guy" a dishwasher could mean so much, the exicetement and happines I felt about it and that I'm still feeling it's to high heaven now....
Really, it's so beautiful, and seller was right! New! Still new holy cow! Not a sign of ever being used, just installed...
Story is particular, this family had it installed in the apt in their multi family house they were meant to go soon back in the 70s, but plans changed and they ended moving abroad, this dishwasher remained at the house where the granmother still lived, though she never used that kitchen, nor the dishwasher.....it sat 40 years unused, under this kitchen counter....till now that they came back, and decided to renovate/use the room..

I installed it this evening, though I had a little problem...they did cut the fill hose, so I had to replace it with one of the new ones I had, the dishwasher had the inlet inside the cabinet and wasn't meant to use one of those modern ones with the elbow, but a straight one... so I had to detach the one I had still connected to faucet from my previous DW ( hose that's still in good conditions) and use another straight one I luckily had, too bad that while detaching the old one, I probably pinched a little bit the metal hose where the dishwasher attachement is attached, second metal "net" hose which it's connected to the sink faucet, so now it leaks a few drops under the sink.....I think I need to install a tap near the dishwasher since I see I do have a faucet outlet on the wall next to dishwasher spot.. (I wonder why they didn'ìt put it there but connected it to the faucet of the sink), will do that this weekend anyway.....
I'm testing the machine now, WOW!!!!!!!! Just as I thought! This one really moves the water AS IT SHOULD!!! I think I did put too much powder for the empty cycle as it started leaking 2 small streams of suds on the front corners, so had to drain it and fill again with a smaller amount.
And I thought it was more noisy than what it really is.....
So happy!!! I will scan the booklet when I've more time....it's in Italian, english, deutsch and français.
Happy!!! Really happy!!!
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[william637]

That is a beautiful machine

Congratulations on your find. My collection has about 30 dishwashers. I have to admit that I have never seen a European design that I found attractive - until yours. It is a good looking machine.

Enjoy!

 

[hippiedoll]

very nice...

kenmoreguy89!!!

i am like you, more into washers, but this dishwasher here looks GREAT!!!
i'm so glad that it finally arrived and that you got it hooked up and got a chance to try it out!!!

i guess you have a little work to do over the weekend, huh???
GOOD LUCK!!!
& i'll keep my fingers crossed that it's an easy job for you!!!

thanks for the pictures. it looks in super condition!!!

;o)

 

[foraloysius]

Congratulations! That machine is magnificent looking! It's indeed a similar machine as I was talking about, only this one has the stainless steel front panel, we had the white one. I hope you get many years of service from this machine.

In the seventies the Indesit sold for ƒ699.- (Dutch guilders) (€315.-). Other machines were sold at a much higher price. It was a rather popular machine at that time. But it came with a price, it used more water and electricity than other machines.

 

[turquoisedude]

Congratulations!   It looks to be in amazing shape - I am sure you'll enjoy using it every time you wash dishes!

 

I get the need to do a 'happy dance' too... LOL 

 

[kenmoreguy89]

" it used more water and electricity than other machines

Maybe it's too soon to speak, but from what I am seeing, the result of what it uses are dishes the cleanest ever...AMAZING!
Loaded today for first actual wash!
This one removes burnt ragù (yes I burnt it making the ragù sauce for lasagne) and the lasagnes baking dish, all this on the short light cycle! Not even the normal or the strongest (BIO)...
I know and I feel like I shouldn't be surprised but I am! WOW!

I could never experience such a thing from whatever machine, even our 80s Rex! That machine could just handle these soils with the strongest cycle.....and anyway not always 100%/totally.

I think that what you spend for the alleged "more" it uses it is likely given all in the superb results!
I'm in love with it!

 

[foraloysius]

IIRC it used only one temperature, 65*C, right?

 

[kenmoreguy89]

I didn't open it during wash, i wasn't there but I went to get rid of the bosch to the dump.....though when i came back it was drying and steaming from the vent, looked it was slightly hotter than 65 inside from the vent, though maybe it's due to the element being turned on during rying cycle as I could smell the typical odor of drying using the element....another thing...it totally dryes everything, at perfection!!!!! No more towel drying!! Yuppee!

 

[hippiedoll]

ALRIGHT!!!

i'm so happy for you kenmoreguy89!!!
sounds like a WONDERFUL dishwasher!!

YYYYYIIIIIIPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

)

 

[kenmoreguy89]

Anyway Louis, sure I'll tell you more with the time....
I still have to get customed to the differences of the various cycles and "learn" about.....
I also still have to read all the booklet, I just looked for the programs chart, but differences o9f what changes like temps etc are not mentioned, anyway, I'll scan the english one and post it here.
And with the time I'll be able to let you know every small detail about it, I just have it since yesterday...

 

[mielerod69]

it used more water and electricity than other machines

Like my 30 year old Miele. Cleans exceptionally well just using the Economy 55 wash. Just look at those spray jets!

 

[roto204]

Congratulations!!

That is a SWEET dishwasher.  I'm with Mark, that is gorgeous.

 

[bigalsf]

Cool Dishwasher!!

Congratulations on getting your machine! As many have stated it is a very stylish design. The dual wash arm setup reminds me of the WasteKing H-Axis design (but this looks more efficient). Congrats again & enjoy!!

 

[ovrphil]

That's a cool looking dishwasher, and I really like the design. Like you, I'm happy, too, as you got a low mileage, like new machine. It has a technical design, as I call it, with grace.

Indesit? It's indecent that it sounds indecent from a brand called Indesit. LOL!

 

[kenmoreguy89]

NOOOOO!

I am almost crying.......
It simply was too beautiful to be true for me.....I couldn't be this lucky...it never goes smooth and well for me.....never!!!
Was using it tonight, it was like 15 minutes it started it's cycle, I was getting back to the kitchen when all of a sudden lights went out, I thought of a black out, but lights on the other apts were still on, so I checked the safety circuit breaker and it was off, something wasn't going right.... that gave me the willies as I just had the dishwasher running...
Tried to lift the switch up, but it wouldn't stay up...
I reached the dishwasher and turn the button off and, and I could smell a burnt ozone smell... here I screamed a huge "FUCK!"
After turning it off, switch would stay up...
I came back to the machine and checked for leaks or something, nothing...everything was okay....I tried turning it on again and lights went off again, so yes, it was it....then I did turn the knob to a random point and went to the safety switch and lifted it, lights didnt go off and I could hear the machine draining.
I waited that drain would finish, it then started filling water for rinse, and once full and motor started going....I could immediately see by the loss of power/light of the light bulbs in the room that something was wrong with it (like if someone just switched on a 6000 watt thing), just after that, I could also hear that the motor was doing a weird sound than before, like a kind of humming in background, the kind of noise motors does when they're on effort or blocked... you know... that electric hum ..don't know if I am clear, I could hear water inside not being sprayed as strong as before also.... and ozone/burnt smell was starting to get out again from the machine, so I turned it off....and here I am, scared as hell of what it could mean...machine is kaput????? I am flattened....[this post was last edited: 11/21/2014-17:12]

 

[kqkenmore]

I am glad that you got the dishwasher you wanted.I hope that it can be repaired easy. I would love to get a vintage Kitchenaid but they are hard to find in Memphis.Good Luck. Carl

 

[foraloysius]

I'm sorry to hear that. That is really bad news. Hopefully it can be repaired, that dishwasher is worth it. Wishing you good luck!

 

[kenmoreguy89]

Well, I should have expected it, there's always something that doesn't go initially with the Vintage I buy, well, at least I thoght that this one being never used would just work without probs...I am not into dishwashers so don't know...looks like motor is in dispersion and overheats, but maybe it's a faulty bearing that made it work on effort and did burn something inside like insulations or something and now it disperse, I hope it didn't suffer and for my knowledge about I am not able to tell if it ever did....if so I think I can have the motor checked and eventually re-winded but I think it'll cost much...

I don't even know where to start checking it now, still trying to figure how to start detaching motor-pump stuff inside... but damnit I'll have it working again! I must to!
I am now starting asking on various forums for some help...
I am so sad though....

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