magic clean
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Imagine how long dishwashers will take if they use even LESS water!!!
rocketwarrior
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No Sweat
They will probably send government checks for the additional energy cost. Have faith.
They will probably send government checks for the additional energy cost. Have faith.
I'm already annoyed with how little water my new Affinity uses compared to the Duet washer we left behind when we sold our house. I can't imagine making a washer that used even less water. It simply wouldn't get clothes clean, I can guarantee you that. As it is I have every cycle on the Affinity programmed for "extra rinse" because even with very conservative use of "he" detergent there is still sudsy residue creeping up the window during final spin.
I should probably start a thread with my own casual comparison of Affinity vs. Duet HT. Duet wins hands down, that much I know, but I'll still take my Affinty over a modern day toploader.
I should probably start a thread with my own casual comparison of Affinity vs. Duet HT. Duet wins hands down, that much I know, but I'll still take my Affinty over a modern day toploader.
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Suds Saver
My mom used a thing she called a suds saver tub. Would something like that be considered to deal with this green stuff?
My mom used a thing she called a suds saver tub. Would something like that be considered to deal with this green stuff?
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.....and if you use any less detergent, the clothes just don't smell clean!!
But, with the Affinity, you can adjust the water level up if you open up the machine.....not hard to do at all.
But, with the Affinity, you can adjust the water level up if you open up the machine.....not hard to do at all.
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Smell Clean
Certainly the Department of Green will provide us with an environmentally safe spray product to make out clothes smell clean. Have faith.
Certainly the Department of Green will provide us with an environmentally safe spray product to make out clothes smell clean. Have faith.
perc-o-prince
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Using less water?
Did I miss something? The article only mentioned energy efficiency, and it looks to me, given the list in his memorandum (residential dishwashers, lamps, ranges and ovens, microwave ovens, commercial air conditioning equipment, commercial boilers and beverage vending machines), as though he's talking about electricity. The DW is the only thing on the list that uses water, and washing machines aren't even on the list.
Chuck
Did I miss something? The article only mentioned energy efficiency, and it looks to me, given the list in his memorandum (residential dishwashers, lamps, ranges and ovens, microwave ovens, commercial air conditioning equipment, commercial boilers and beverage vending machines), as though he's talking about electricity. The DW is the only thing on the list that uses water, and washing machines aren't even on the list.
Chuck
Yeah, I think clothes washers have bottomed out with water usage. Any more reductions and I'll bet there would be health issues so the other appliances are what they're likely looking at.
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well....
i guess its just general revisions that will be taken into affect hmmm no mentions of washers at all my argument in reality no one really uses a washer everyday some do and for good reason huge families etc however how can washers be targeted as water hogs if there used under normal circumstances and effectively? a dishwasher ii would understand as that particular appliance is used everyday for the most part. but washers? not in my opinion.
my parents would NEVER by a frontloader and i quote them "energy saver? there mothers ass" LOL but they would get an HE toploader go figure!!!!
i guess its just general revisions that will be taken into affect hmmm no mentions of washers at all my argument in reality no one really uses a washer everyday some do and for good reason huge families etc however how can washers be targeted as water hogs if there used under normal circumstances and effectively? a dishwasher ii would understand as that particular appliance is used everyday for the most part. but washers? not in my opinion.
my parents would NEVER by a frontloader and i quote them "energy saver? there mothers ass" LOL but they would get an HE toploader go figure!!!!
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Don't blame me, I didn't vote for that socialist nut
Neither did I! We are in for quite a ride!
Neither did I! We are in for quite a ride!
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Some methods that could be tried:
Insulate commerical/industrial buildings.
Prohibit resistance electric heat as the main/central source of heat.
Place a sales tax of 50% of the purchase price on all passenger/residential vehicles larger than a mid-sized sedan.
that seats 5.
Requre one thermostat in each area to control BOTH heating and cooling, so both heating and cooling cant be run simultaneourlsy. (i.e. you walk into a fast-food joint and cooling is issuing forth from the ceiling vent and the supplemental electric heater in [same] the air-lock entry vestibule is blasting away) Or you are in a rather large restaurant and one section is being heated and another cooled.
I have seen in my office in the height of the summer heat in August a young lady in a tube-top turn on an electric heater that fights the air-condtioner. Honey, put a sweater on!
Changing the mind-set of the populous, now THAT is the difficult task.
Insulate commerical/industrial buildings.
Prohibit resistance electric heat as the main/central source of heat.
Place a sales tax of 50% of the purchase price on all passenger/residential vehicles larger than a mid-sized sedan.
that seats 5.
Requre one thermostat in each area to control BOTH heating and cooling, so both heating and cooling cant be run simultaneourlsy. (i.e. you walk into a fast-food joint and cooling is issuing forth from the ceiling vent and the supplemental electric heater in [same] the air-lock entry vestibule is blasting away) Or you are in a rather large restaurant and one section is being heated and another cooled.
I have seen in my office in the height of the summer heat in August a young lady in a tube-top turn on an electric heater that fights the air-condtioner. Honey, put a sweater on!
Changing the mind-set of the populous, now THAT is the difficult task.
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Seeing washing machines/water usage were never mentioned in the memo, I'll comment on something that was: beverage vending machines.
Why does Wal-Mart need Coke, Pepsi, Sam's Club, and Poland Springs machines? Couldn't something be worked out to combine or eliminate one or two? That'd be a savings right there w/o even changing the technology of the machines!
Chuck
TGNMB
(Thank Goodness No More Bush!!!!)
Why does Wal-Mart need Coke, Pepsi, Sam's Club, and Poland Springs machines? Couldn't something be worked out to combine or eliminate one or two? That'd be a savings right there w/o even changing the technology of the machines!
Chuck
TGNMB
(Thank Goodness No More Bush!!!!)
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How about sensors in public buildings that cut back or eliminate lighting when the space is unoccupied?.
How about requoring a walls-switch in every room. In commerical Manhattan skyscrapers the control switch is actually the circuit breakers and you are turning on scores (if not hundreds) of fixtures at a time.
Wire lighting fixtures to light a portion of the fluroescent tubes (within each fixture) per switch. Say one switch controls one tube and the second switcd adds two more tubes. In this way with three switches you have low, medium and high lighting levels. When the utlity in summer says "cut down" it's easy for EVERYONE to do.
How about requoring a walls-switch in every room. In commerical Manhattan skyscrapers the control switch is actually the circuit breakers and you are turning on scores (if not hundreds) of fixtures at a time.
Wire lighting fixtures to light a portion of the fluroescent tubes (within each fixture) per switch. Say one switch controls one tube and the second switcd adds two more tubes. In this way with three switches you have low, medium and high lighting levels. When the utlity in summer says "cut down" it's easy for EVERYONE to do.
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Energy Savings
Limit the number of children someone can have to one per person, two per couple, and permit a credit to be sold by a person who chooses not to have a child to a family that wants three. This would greatly reduce the carbon footprint and unnecessary consumption.
"Fix" people young and permit an "unfix" when they have saved $10,000 to be placed in trust to be invested for college but the trust balance is also available to the state if aid is sought.
Limit the number of children someone can have to one per person, two per couple, and permit a credit to be sold by a person who chooses not to have a child to a family that wants three. This would greatly reduce the carbon footprint and unnecessary consumption.
"Fix" people young and permit an "unfix" when they have saved $10,000 to be placed in trust to be invested for college but the trust balance is also available to the state if aid is sought.
Ralph needs to know
"But, with the Affinity, you can adjust the water level up if you open up the machine.....not hard to do at all."
Andrew,
Can you please explain the steps needed to adjust the water level on an Affinity?
Ralph,
I'll even come down there and do it for you!
;-)
"But, with the Affinity, you can adjust the water level up if you open up the machine.....not hard to do at all."
Andrew,
Can you please explain the steps needed to adjust the water level on an Affinity?
Ralph,
I'll even come down there and do it for you!
;-)
~Limit the number of children...
Now that is real socialism! Equal amount of children for everyone!
Now that is real socialism! Equal amount of children for everyone!
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