I'm not seeing much about them anymore. They seem to have disappeared from retailers weekly and monthly flyers nor do they seem to have much of a presence in actual stores. Are they going the way of the dodo?
Of dial phones, 8 tracks, VHS is the dishdrawer far behind
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No...
At least not in these parts.
If you check F&P's website, they are still listed alongside their other kitchen appliances, which in Australia, also happens to include a 'traditional' style of dishwasher.
www.fisherpaykel.com (I'm hoping thats for the U.S.)
They went through another design revision either last year, or the year beforehand, for the same series model as ours (Ours is a DD60DCX6, we are now up to DCX7). These models have undergone what appears to be some slight cycle modification on the Normal cycle (Lengthened*), and the manual now acknowledges the "mysterious 3rd rinse" I "discovered" on the Delicates/Heavy cycles.
*Even though the "Normal" cycle is supposed to be 22 minutes longer than Delicates, in reality, and in my own personal experience, this feels like water-heating time for the Main-Wash and Final Rinse, that is being removed. So in reality, the cycle ends up being about 92 minutes (Same as Delicates), or 60 if you cancel the cycle when drying starts.
My gripe about the Normal and Heavy cycles is the final rinsing temperature is NOT attained unless you ensure the machine is connected to a hot tap, and is purged throughout the rinsing phases. It feels like a timed period, which is disappointing, considering most machines will be run on cold water supplies.
For the record, our set is now three years old, without any major repair.
A drain filter has been replaced, as it separated in two (top half/bottom half). The other has since separated, but it doesn't inhibit the performance of the machine, so I don't care.
Dishwashing performance is always superb, even with regular powders. I find it *amazing* people spend up to double on tablets, when powders work just fine... Our powder is still phosphated, but even non-phosphate varieties still work great.
The superb dishwashing is matched with wickedly short cycle times in comparison with today's machine, and energy consumption about in line with typical Australian machines (Dishlex, most notably), in terms of water usage, IF both drawers are run and at capacity.
Its also amazing exactly what will go in there, and I'm surprised at stuff still that comes clean with no pretreatment whatsoever.
At least not in these parts.
If you check F&P's website, they are still listed alongside their other kitchen appliances, which in Australia, also happens to include a 'traditional' style of dishwasher.
www.fisherpaykel.com (I'm hoping thats for the U.S.)
They went through another design revision either last year, or the year beforehand, for the same series model as ours (Ours is a DD60DCX6, we are now up to DCX7). These models have undergone what appears to be some slight cycle modification on the Normal cycle (Lengthened*), and the manual now acknowledges the "mysterious 3rd rinse" I "discovered" on the Delicates/Heavy cycles.
*Even though the "Normal" cycle is supposed to be 22 minutes longer than Delicates, in reality, and in my own personal experience, this feels like water-heating time for the Main-Wash and Final Rinse, that is being removed. So in reality, the cycle ends up being about 92 minutes (Same as Delicates), or 60 if you cancel the cycle when drying starts.
My gripe about the Normal and Heavy cycles is the final rinsing temperature is NOT attained unless you ensure the machine is connected to a hot tap, and is purged throughout the rinsing phases. It feels like a timed period, which is disappointing, considering most machines will be run on cold water supplies.
For the record, our set is now three years old, without any major repair.
A drain filter has been replaced, as it separated in two (top half/bottom half). The other has since separated, but it doesn't inhibit the performance of the machine, so I don't care.
Dishwashing performance is always superb, even with regular powders. I find it *amazing* people spend up to double on tablets, when powders work just fine... Our powder is still phosphated, but even non-phosphate varieties still work great.
The superb dishwashing is matched with wickedly short cycle times in comparison with today's machine, and energy consumption about in line with typical Australian machines (Dishlex, most notably), in terms of water usage, IF both drawers are run and at capacity.
Its also amazing exactly what will go in there, and I'm surprised at stuff still that comes clean with no pretreatment whatsoever.
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In Vancouver area three of our large western and central Canada appliance chains, Coast Wholesale, Trail, and Midland all feature both F&P and DCS branded DishDrawers even in separate brand room displays. Sears, which is where I bought my DD603 and GWL11 clothes washer, seems to no longer carry them-they have the Maytag designed Kitchenaid and Kenmore models or did have until recently. I will add the GWL11 is just over 10 years old and DD603 about 9yrs-running fine but we do unplug or switch off power between use and now use a plug in surge suppresssor as well-got to conserve those delicate and pricy circuit boards.
When in an appliance ad they tend to be given less space than better known brands.
The latest versions to me are perfect, great adjustments for bowls large or small, cups, stemware and glasses, individual kitchen knife holders, and very user customizable cutlery basket.
In Vancouver area three of our large western and central Canada appliance chains, Coast Wholesale, Trail, and Midland all feature both F&P and DCS branded DishDrawers even in separate brand room displays. Sears, which is where I bought my DD603 and GWL11 clothes washer, seems to no longer carry them-they have the Maytag designed Kitchenaid and Kenmore models or did have until recently. I will add the GWL11 is just over 10 years old and DD603 about 9yrs-running fine but we do unplug or switch off power between use and now use a plug in surge suppresssor as well-got to conserve those delicate and pricy circuit boards.
When in an appliance ad they tend to be given less space than better known brands.
The latest versions to me are perfect, great adjustments for bowls large or small, cups, stemware and glasses, individual kitchen knife holders, and very user customizable cutlery basket.
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When I was at THD, we floored a couple models. Not popular, strictly because big pots wouldn't fit, let alone roasters, crockpot inserts, stockpots and the like. I think I sold three of them. One of them (Maytag) we finally ended-up taking back after numerous leakage issues. The customer bought a traditional model for a replacement. We did carry a Sharp model online, that was usually sold by our kitchen design people. I never heard any reports, pro or con. We tried various sales suggestions. Senior citizens: Don't have to hold for a full load, can wash just half-load as needed. Singles: Fill top drawer, wash. Then take dishes, cookware, utensils out as needed then load into bottom drawer when soiled. When top is empty, run cycle on bottom. Repeat process=never have to "unload" the dishwasher! (How lazy can you get?). Also: For lots of guests, just run top or bottom to finish up extra-big loads. Everything fell flat.
Most higher-end models have a half-rack cycle option nowadays anyway.
When I was at THD, we floored a couple models. Not popular, strictly because big pots wouldn't fit, let alone roasters, crockpot inserts, stockpots and the like. I think I sold three of them. One of them (Maytag) we finally ended-up taking back after numerous leakage issues. The customer bought a traditional model for a replacement. We did carry a Sharp model online, that was usually sold by our kitchen design people. I never heard any reports, pro or con. We tried various sales suggestions. Senior citizens: Don't have to hold for a full load, can wash just half-load as needed. Singles: Fill top drawer, wash. Then take dishes, cookware, utensils out as needed then load into bottom drawer when soiled. When top is empty, run cycle on bottom. Repeat process=never have to "unload" the dishwasher! (How lazy can you get?). Also: For lots of guests, just run top or bottom to finish up extra-big loads. Everything fell flat.
Most higher-end models have a half-rack cycle option nowadays anyway.
Leaks:
This must be the most common user-caused error on these machines: As they are drawers, there is a lid-seal that drops down when the machine operates. Insert any items that protrudes, and after several cycles (or one, depending how bad it is), you have an F1 error and a flooded machine.
Fitting larger items can be a hassle, although I can get our roaster, dinner plates and several bowls into the machine without hassle. The smaller roaster/casserole dish allows room for glasses as well.
Pots and pans are doable, but thats where the handiness of the second drawer is intended to be used - Except we don't, due to (my) compulsive need to fill the drawers to positively overflowing every cycle!
This must be the most common user-caused error on these machines: As they are drawers, there is a lid-seal that drops down when the machine operates. Insert any items that protrudes, and after several cycles (or one, depending how bad it is), you have an F1 error and a flooded machine.
Fitting larger items can be a hassle, although I can get our roaster, dinner plates and several bowls into the machine without hassle. The smaller roaster/casserole dish allows room for glasses as well.
Pots and pans are doable, but thats where the handiness of the second drawer is intended to be used - Except we don't, due to (my) compulsive need to fill the drawers to positively overflowing every cycle!
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