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Eddie, 5430706 is the timer for the WO-65 double rinse machine, 5430777 is the timer in your WO-65-2 overflow rinse machine. So no its not the exact replacement, but you can very easily switch the timer motor on the new one.

When I change the temp switch from Hot to Warm,the solenoid on the motor energizes on hot and de-energizes on warm. Is this the sign of the escapement being toast ???
Wait a minute I'm confused, are you saying that the timer motor advances the timer only when you have the water temperature switch on hot?

If the answer to that question is yes then the only thing wrong is someone has the wires mixed up on the timer.
 
Hi Robert

No the timer motor does not advance at all. While the machine is filling , if I switch the Water Temp. switch to warm, the spin solenoid energizes. When I switch it to Hot, The Spin Solenoid de-energizes.

So my next question is this machine with the New Timer could not be made into a Double Rinse Machine ?
 
When I switch it to Hot, The Spin Solenoid de-energizes.
Really???? That's silly, then the timer is not wired properly and it makes me wonder if the timer motor is not wired properly either. Can you take some close up pictures of the timer wiring on both sides?

So my next question is this machine with the New Timer could not be made into a Double Rinse Machine ?
Yes, but the dial wont line up anymore and in my opinion if you have the over-flow rinse wash tub (which I assume you do) the over-flow rinse machine is a better performer. It uses less water, has a faster cycle and is slightly more dramatic. But either type would work just fine.
 
Timer Pics

Does this help ?

Thanks so much Robert.

The reason why I asked about usuing the New Timer, is I was just thinking being it Brand New, I thought it might make sense to just leave it as is. But something to think about

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I'm going to need better pictures than that Eddie. Can you take the timer out and photograph close ups of the two panels where wires are connected?

Or better yet, here is the wiring diagram for the WO-65, which isn't exactly the same as the WO-65-2, but its close. Can you check the connections both at the timer and the mechanism?

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If I may break in for a moment ... if your wiring proves to be the problem and not the timer motor itself ... my WO-65, which IS a double-rinse model, has been waiting for a timer motor (or a complete timer) for almost 5 years.
 
Well its hard for me to tell exactly via photos but it appears that the timer is wired correctly. I can't exactly check the wires on the water temperature switch. The spin solenoid is the brown wire, does that appear to be in all the right spots according to the wiring diagram?

Also describe that symptom a bit further. When you switch the water temp to warm it engages the spin solenoid???? Does this happen in all increments of the timer, or just like fill or something else? Be as descriptive as you can.
 
Spin Solenoid

I turn the timer to the Fill position.
I stumbled upon this when I switch the Temperature Switch to Hot. I was doing this to hear if both valves were operating. Then I noticed the "clank" of the Spin Solenoid. So I leaned over and moved the Temperature Switch from Warm to Hot etc. and that's when I noticed the Spin Solenoid engaging and disengaging.

Everything appears to be in place according to the wiring diagram.
All the connections seem to be in the right place and the connections are secure.

I am going to check everything again just to make sure that it is not my over-zealousness and I may have had too much coffee this morning. LOL.
 
What about when the timer is set to the wash, overflow wash, rinse fill, rinse overflow????? Does switching the temp switch to warm energize the spin solenoid in any other timer setting(s) besides wash fill? Its important to know if it only happens during one segment of the cycle or all segments.
 
Manual Timer Advance

Fill Position : Hot, the solenoid is energized, Warm, it is not.

Advanced to Wash, The machine Pulsates, the temperature switch has no effect.

Advanced to Spin : The machine spins and the temperature switch has no effect.

Advanced to Rinse Fill : Temperature Switch has no effect on the Solenoid.

Advance to Rinse : The Solenoid Engages and the machine Spins. Does not Pulsate but Spins. The Temperature Switch has no effect on the Solnoid.

Advancing the timer slowly : The Machine keeps spinning and as I advance to the Spin, The Machine keeps spinning and the Temperature Switch has no effect on the Solnoid.

Strange Huh ???
 
Very strange is right, wow.

Next step if you know how to do this:

#1 Remove brown wire from timer,

#2 take a voltage meter and place one meter probe and clip it onto the terminal on the timer where the brown wire was,

#3 take the other meter probe and clip it to a good ground source,

#4 place timer into wash fill and push in

#5 are you reading 110-125 volts out of the brown timer terminal when you switch it to hot and then 0 or near 0 volts when you switch it to warm????

oh and please be careful when you are doing this, don't touch any terminals or the loose brown wire as they might be live. Don't let the loose brown wire touch anything, make sure its just hanging loose in the air.
 

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