OK... Test 2 Unimatic...Wo-65-2

[toploader55]

Timer Pic 2

Bottom

 

[toploader55]

Top View

Lid Switch and Overload

 

[toploader55]

Bottom

Overload Protector and Lid Switch et al.

 

[Unimatic1140]

Well its hard for me to tell exactly via photos but it appears that the timer is wired correctly. I can't exactly check the wires on the water temperature switch. The spin solenoid is the brown wire, does that appear to be in all the right spots according to the wiring diagram?

Also describe that symptom a bit further. When you switch the water temp to warm it engages the spin solenoid???? Does this happen in all increments of the timer, or just like fill or something else? Be as descriptive as you can.

 

[toploader55]

Spin Solenoid

I turn the timer to the Fill position.
I stumbled upon this when I switch the Temperature Switch to Hot. I was doing this to hear if both valves were operating. Then I noticed the "clank" of the Spin Solenoid. So I leaned over and moved the Temperature Switch from Warm to Hot etc. and that's when I noticed the Spin Solenoid engaging and disengaging.

Everything appears to be in place according to the wiring diagram.
All the connections seem to be in the right place and the connections are secure.

I am going to check everything again just to make sure that it is not my over-zealousness and I may have had too much coffee this morning. LOL.

 

[Unimatic1140]

What about when the timer is set to the wash, overflow wash, rinse fill, rinse overflow????? Does switching the temp switch to warm energize the spin solenoid in any other timer setting(s) besides wash fill? Its important to know if it only happens during one segment of the cycle or all segments.

 

[toploader55]

Manual Timer Advance

Fill Position : Hot, the solenoid is energized, Warm, it is not.

Advanced to Wash, The machine Pulsates, the temperature switch has no effect.

Advanced to Spin : The machine spins and the temperature switch has no effect.

Advanced to Rinse Fill : Temperature Switch has no effect on the Solenoid.

Advance to Rinse : The Solenoid Engages and the machine Spins. Does not Pulsate but Spins. The Temperature Switch has no effect on the Solnoid.

Advancing the timer slowly : The Machine keeps spinning and as I advance to the Spin, The Machine keeps spinning and the Temperature Switch has no effect on the Solnoid.

Strange Huh ???

 

[Unimatic1140]

Very strange is right, wow.

Next step if you know how to do this:

#1 Remove brown wire from timer,

#2 take a voltage meter and place one meter probe and clip it onto the terminal on the timer where the brown wire was,

#3 take the other meter probe and clip it to a good ground source,

#4 place timer into wash fill and push in

#5 are you reading 110-125 volts out of the brown timer terminal when you switch it to hot and then 0 or near 0 volts when you switch it to warm????

oh and please be careful when you are doing this, don't touch any terminals or the loose brown wire as they might be live. Don't let the loose brown wire touch anything, make sure its just hanging loose in the air.

 

[toploader55]

Thanks Robert

I need to go buy a Voltage Meter.

The New Timer has just been Shipped. Would it be beneficial to perform this test anyway before going any further ?

 

[Unimatic1140]

Would it be beneficial to perform this test anyway before going any further ?

Hi Eddie, I don't quite understand the question, I guess my answer would be only if you are interested in finding out the exact source of the problem with this timer/temp selector assembly.

Switching to the new assembly will probably fix this issue (but not guaranteed).

 

[toploader55]

I don't understand the question...

What I meant was I should do this before either changing the machine to a Double Rinse with the New Timer, or installing the New Motor on the Old timer. Seems the logical thing to do is find the source of the problem before going any further.
I'll get a Voltage Meter in a short while. Anything particular or Model/Brand I should look for ?

 

[Unimatic1140]

I would as parts are rare and if you can save two parts by finding a wiring problem or other issue outside of the obvious timer issue then it's worth it.

Unless you are planning on doing some vintage tv restoration I would go to Radio Shack and get a real cheap meter (under $20) as that is all your need for vintage washer/dryer/dishwasher testing. Since you have other appliances and dishwashers the meter will definitely come in handy someday again. Also get some alligator clips to clip on the end of the meter probes to hold the probe onto the timer terminal and the other probe onto a ground.

If this is your first time using a voltage meter, you should probably read a primer for safety on the net. What I like to do is get a fresh pair of rubber dish washing gloves and be sure to wear rubber soled sneakers. The rubber gloves will help protect against accidental shocks. Using a meter is perfectly safe if you are real careful and treat electricity with the respect it deserves.

 

[toploader55]

Get a Fresh Pair of Rubber Dishwashing Gloves...

Well, I hope they have some Nice Colors to choose from. LOL !!!

Thank you soooooo much for all your assistance through out the day. You are too kind and that's what makes this place so special.

Off to buy the Meter.

I wonder what color I shall choose >>> Yellow, Green, Pank ???

Again Thanks. This place is always a Educational Expierience.

What a Great Day. New Timer and spending the day with you. Especially when one just turned 54 today .

 

[gadgetgary]

Happy Birthday

Eddie

 

[revvinkevin]

Yes... HAPPY B-DAY EDDIE!!!

Better late to the party then never........

I'm really happy for you Eddie, your Unimatic cleaned up really well and (except for the timer) sounds like it's in amazing mechanical condition!

I also love the shots of the "waves" or halos! Awesome!

Congrats again!
Kevin

 

[toploader55]

Thanks Everyone

Thanks Gary and Kevin.

I always love spending the day here with everyone. Eddie

 

[mrb627]

Very Interesting

I have been following this thread all afternoon and I am on the edge of my seat waiting to find the source of this electrical problem. If you are nervous about probing live wires, you may want to ohm out the timer to see if it is causing your issue.

Whatever you do, BE CAREFUL!

Malcolm

 

[agirlsgottaknow]

HAPPY :HAPPY BDAY!!!

)

 

[toploader55]

Thanks Malcolm

I love living on the edge and sliding down the Razor Blade of Life. Thank you for your concerns. I will be Very Careful.

Yes it's been a Fantastic Day. There is nothing better than spending a day Learning Something. It's the Best !!! Eddie

 

[mickeyd]

Happy 54th, Eddie

Before you start celebrating, unless of course you already have, there's something worth thinking about. This is your first Frigidaire. If you really want a double rinser (DR) or if the timer/electrics issue is forcing it, then by all means. But if you have a choice, there is really no comparison, especially when you're forced to do without the overflow wash and the overflow rinse.

But, more than that, think about the longevity issue. The DR requires another spin wind-up every time you use it. That's 3 spins per load instead of 2 for the overflow model. Theoretically, you decrease the longevity of the machine by one-third if you switch over, Then one day when you see a Unimatic overflow, you may wish you had kept the treasure you now have. Just my two cents and a gift to you from someone who has lived with both, OF (overflow) & DR. And for me the Overflow is the Razor's Edge of Life to ride. Good Luck, Unimatic Brother.

 

[toploader55]

Awwwwwwwwwww...

Thanks Mike.
Decision to be made after every option is explored.

 

[mathewhebailey0]

Just get an insulated matching connector that slips over the end of the brown wire to prevent it from touching anything it's not supposed to & remove it before reconnecting the wire.It has one end you crimp onto the wire (there's no need to crimp it if your'e not installing the mentioned connector)

 

[alr2903]

Toploader, i too am very respectful of electric. I wish there was someone close by to help you, i would definately need them. After reading through these posts and your machines mechanism is so "intact" after all these years, i am wondering if a botched repair in the distant past is what caused your machines retirement. Roberts post makes sense, maybe "alot" of it is wired wrong. arthur

 

[toploader55]

Well,

I took the day off from my Baby Boy.

I have purchased a Volt Meter and I'll have updates tomorrow.

I have a tremendous amount of respect for Electricity. (It's like dealing with a Murder,) So, I will give you guys an update tomorrow. Eddie (If I'm not fried LOL) !!!!!!