Kenmore Elite Talltub
Scott
Congrats on this beautiful dishwasher. I hope to chat with you soon.
Peter
Scott
Congrats on this beautiful dishwasher. I hope to chat with you soon.
Peter
old maytag dishwashers
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I have indeed become the Bosch "cheerleader". When I remodeled my home last year, I put in one of the new Kitchenaid dishwashers ... was so disappointed in the washing ability that I gave this new machine to my sister and got myself another Bosch (I had one in my last home and loved it). I can pack some serious dished into this machine and I never pre-rinse, but I get great results every time. Todd
I have indeed become the Bosch "cheerleader". When I remodeled my home last year, I put in one of the new Kitchenaid dishwashers ... was so disappointed in the washing ability that I gave this new machine to my sister and got myself another Bosch (I had one in my last home and loved it). I can pack some serious dished into this machine and I never pre-rinse, but I get great results every time. Todd
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I'm, surprised your KA(WP) disappointed in washing ability, seems like most any modern dishwasher does at least a good job of washing these days, what in particular was disappointing about the washing ability? And I assume your sister has lower standards and hasn't complained. What did it replace at her house?
I'm, surprised your KA(WP) disappointed in washing ability, seems like most any modern dishwasher does at least a good job of washing these days, what in particular was disappointing about the washing ability? And I assume your sister has lower standards and hasn't complained. What did it replace at her house?
Interesting. I have a friend here in Little Rock who has been complaining about her 2 year old Kitchen Aid dishwasher. She says it does a very poor job of cleaning. I asked the obvious questions like what kind of water she has, what soap she uses, what cycles she uses. She says she has had the repair people out a number of times and no one can figure out why it cleans so poorly. Had it been me, I would have insisted it be replaced but she didn't do that and now she feels it's too late.
I would have agreed with you KM1978 had I not heard of my friends problems. I wonder if both my friend and Todd just got a lemon. I have always had good luck with Kitchen Aid dishwashers. As I mentioned earlier in this post, my sister recently replaced her 24 year old model with a new one and loves it. Her old one was a Superba and it never had a repair. It was still running strong when she replaced it.
I would have agreed with you KM1978 had I not heard of my friends problems. I wonder if both my friend and Todd just got a lemon. I have always had good luck with Kitchen Aid dishwashers. As I mentioned earlier in this post, my sister recently replaced her 24 year old model with a new one and loves it. Her old one was a Superba and it never had a repair. It was still running strong when she replaced it.
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I too am a die-hard KitchenAid fan. I have owned Superbas since my first KDS-17 in 1977 in Chicago. When I moved back from California a few years ago, I bought the TOL tall tub KitchenAid. Quiet indeed. Cleans ok but doesn't dry like the flow thru of the older models. Finally found this one and had it shipped from Palm Springs to Chicago. The installer said he had never seen a new $1,200 dishwasher replaced with a 30 year old machine. I guess I buck the trend. I love this KDS-17. Elegant and washes like there is no tomorrow.
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That is a fabulous dishwasher! I have been to Fred's house and he has many wonderful appliances and vacuums! 
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PS - How about this KitchenAid
Thanks Scott! Thought I would also include this picture of the KDI-14P that I also had installed in my laundry room off the kitchen after the KDS-17 was installed. Alas the drain valve is faulty but Greg in Omaha is coaching me through getting it apart to repair. It's a shame because the machine is like new. I also had a Maytag WU 900 (all buttons) in CA that I really liked. Cleaned fabulous but sounded like a jet engine on takeoff in the kitchen.
Thanks Scott! Thought I would also include this picture of the KDI-14P that I also had installed in my laundry room off the kitchen after the KDS-17 was installed. Alas the drain valve is faulty but Greg in Omaha is coaching me through getting it apart to repair. It's a shame because the machine is like new. I also had a Maytag WU 900 (all buttons) in CA that I really liked. Cleaned fabulous but sounded like a jet engine on takeoff in the kitchen.
Speaking of KA, my buyers don't want the KUDS22, they want the new GE moved over from the new house (which kinda had been mentioned to them as a possibility).
I could have the KA installed in the utility room as a spare/complement to the F&P. I think the KA has much more personality than the GE.
The GE can be seen in the background here:
I could have the KA installed in the utility room as a spare/complement to the F&P. I think the KA has much more personality than the GE.
The GE can be seen in the background here:
Well durn dem buyers!! I was kinda hopin' ...
appliguy
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Is that a Pilot light????
In the pictures of the white and avacado Maytag Portables I noticed that there seems to be a little red light on the left side of the control panel...is that a pilot light (as they called them in the 1950's) that lets you know when the dishwasher is on???? As for the belt drive Maytags...we had a 1979 U201 (I believe that is the correct model number), which was the next step up from the bottom, in Harvest Gold and that thing was not only noisy but on any cycle less than regular it wouldn't wash worth a crap (and it didn't do that good of job on the regular cuycle either, come to think of it). It was built like a tank though and we had it until October 1996 when the timer went out a week before my sisters wedding. I recently found the reciept from Memco for it and was shocked to realize my folks paid over $300 1979 dollars for that mess. My mom told that she didn't have it installed two weeks before she had to have the service guy come out and replace the heater fan because it was bent and kept making a knocking noise during the drying cycle. If I am ever able to get a vintage dishwasher it will be GE, Frigidaire, or Kitchen Aid all the way. PAT COFFEY
In the pictures of the white and avacado Maytag Portables I noticed that there seems to be a little red light on the left side of the control panel...is that a pilot light (as they called them in the 1950's) that lets you know when the dishwasher is on???? As for the belt drive Maytags...we had a 1979 U201 (I believe that is the correct model number), which was the next step up from the bottom, in Harvest Gold and that thing was not only noisy but on any cycle less than regular it wouldn't wash worth a crap (and it didn't do that good of job on the regular cuycle either, come to think of it). It was built like a tank though and we had it until October 1996 when the timer went out a week before my sisters wedding. I recently found the reciept from Memco for it and was shocked to realize my folks paid over $300 1979 dollars for that mess. My mom told that she didn't have it installed two weeks before she had to have the service guy come out and replace the heater fan because it was bent and kept making a knocking noise during the drying cycle. If I am ever able to get a vintage dishwasher it will be GE, Frigidaire, or Kitchen Aid all the way. PAT COFFEY
I never had any of the problems appliguy mentioned with my old Maytag. Yes, It was louder than the dishwashers on the market today. But that Maytag never, ever let me down with cleaning. I'm one who doesn't believe in pre-rinsing before loading and that Maytag cleaned like a charm everytime. I would have a hard time choosing between a vintage Maytag or KitchenAid tho. Both were fabulous machines
The Maytag Jetclean dishwashing system has never let me down either and I like the "upside down" loading, the capacity is tremendous for a vintage dishwasher. This avocado machine is a great cleaning dishwasher too and noticably quieter than the belt-driven design but part of the fun of a vintage machine is the noise and sounds of it getting the dishes clean.
appliguy
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We must have got a lemon
After reading Greg and Roberts posts and talking to a neighbor who had the same dishwasher we had, only hers was a year newer, I surmise my folks just ended up with a plain old lemon. My neighbor loved hers too and the only reason she got rid of it is because like ours the timer went out. She replaced hers with a 1998 Whirlpool which she likes ALMOST as much as her old Maytag. PAT
After reading Greg and Roberts posts and talking to a neighbor who had the same dishwasher we had, only hers was a year newer, I surmise my folks just ended up with a plain old lemon. My neighbor loved hers too and the only reason she got rid of it is because like ours the timer went out. She replaced hers with a 1998 Whirlpool which she likes ALMOST as much as her old Maytag. PAT
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Mixed reviews
My Mothers girlfriend built a house in 1975 and put in the middle of the line Maytag dishwasher. She complained all the time about it. She said it didn't clean near as well as her old GE portable. They way she griped about it, I don't know why they didn't just rip it out and put in something different. I am also not aware of what other factors were involved with her dissatisfaction, such as water temp and hardness. I just know she did not like her Maytag DW.
My Mothers girlfriend built a house in 1975 and put in the middle of the line Maytag dishwasher. She complained all the time about it. She said it didn't clean near as well as her old GE portable. They way she griped about it, I don't know why they didn't just rip it out and put in something different. I am also not aware of what other factors were involved with her dissatisfaction, such as water temp and hardness. I just know she did not like her Maytag DW.
KDS-17
fnelson487,
Cory and I just picked up this little ditty - saved her from the lethal crusher! It looks exactly like yours, but mine is white instead of SS. Was it an option on this model to get a variety of colors, or were you limited to just SS or white? I've always wondered if you 'picked' the color of a Kitchen-Aid as you would a car, or a fridge? Also, it needs a new motor - does the motor in a KDS-17A match with most others from the era? Thanks for the help!
Ben
(Cor - post a pic if you don't mind....)
fnelson487,
Cory and I just picked up this little ditty - saved her from the lethal crusher! It looks exactly like yours, but mine is white instead of SS. Was it an option on this model to get a variety of colors, or were you limited to just SS or white? I've always wondered if you 'picked' the color of a Kitchen-Aid as you would a car, or a fridge? Also, it needs a new motor - does the motor in a KDS-17A match with most others from the era? Thanks for the help!
Ben
(Cor - post a pic if you don't mind....)
When my family bought a KDI-17a back in 1975, the machine didn't include front panels. The buyer selected panels from a choice of colors, including stainless steel (which is what we got), brushed chrome, a frame for a custom wood panel, and the other standard color choices of the era. I know there was an extra charge for stainless, but I don't know if the 'base' price included a choice of white, avocado, gold, etc., or if there was a charge for *any* selection.
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KDS-17 Front Panels
Ben - One of the beauties of the KitchenAid dishwashers of this era was what they called Vari-front panels. They generally had a rainbow of front panels to choose from of colors that were popular at the time. My first KDS-17 in Chicago was order with a edged-coppertone front which matched the first kitchen it was in and when I moved and took the KDS-17 with me I ordered harvest gold. Yikes!!! how tastes change. One of the options was a front panel that you could add your own panel to. This generally involved inserting a wood panel to match your cabinets. St. Charles Kitchens also matched formica to their cabinets - quite classy. I believe that KitchenAid was the first to offer this. Back in those days it was the height of the custom kitchen to have a built-in flush mounted KitchenAid with a front that matched the cabinets. The dishwasher blended in to the cabinets with the top panel the only indication that it was a dishwasher. Similar to the Sub-Zero and other built-in refrigerators of today. I have a brochure for the KDS-18 with no less than 10 front panels showing. The KitchenAids of this era also offered a stainless steel interior as an option - way ahead of its time. If you check out the KitchenAid site I believe that you can still get front panels for this machine. I was lucky enough to find one with a stainless steel front that blends in perfectly with my kitchen. Any other front can be powder-coated or painted to match.
Fred
Ben - One of the beauties of the KitchenAid dishwashers of this era was what they called Vari-front panels. They generally had a rainbow of front panels to choose from of colors that were popular at the time. My first KDS-17 in Chicago was order with a edged-coppertone front which matched the first kitchen it was in and when I moved and took the KDS-17 with me I ordered harvest gold. Yikes!!! how tastes change. One of the options was a front panel that you could add your own panel to. This generally involved inserting a wood panel to match your cabinets. St. Charles Kitchens also matched formica to their cabinets - quite classy. I believe that KitchenAid was the first to offer this. Back in those days it was the height of the custom kitchen to have a built-in flush mounted KitchenAid with a front that matched the cabinets. The dishwasher blended in to the cabinets with the top panel the only indication that it was a dishwasher. Similar to the Sub-Zero and other built-in refrigerators of today. I have a brochure for the KDS-18 with no less than 10 front panels showing. The KitchenAids of this era also offered a stainless steel interior as an option - way ahead of its time. If you check out the KitchenAid site I believe that you can still get front panels for this machine. I was lucky enough to find one with a stainless steel front that blends in perfectly with my kitchen. Any other front can be powder-coated or painted to match.
Fred
fnelson487
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Oops - Didn't answer the motor question
Ben - If I did this right the link is to RepairClinic.com and all the parts that are still available for the KDS-17. Amazing! And yes, the motor is still available.
Fred
http://www.repairclinic.com/0080.asp
Ben - If I did this right the link is to RepairClinic.com and all the parts that are still available for the KDS-17. Amazing! And yes, the motor is still available.
Fred
http://www.repairclinic.com/0080.asp
maytag dishwasher
step mom had a maytag she used for years, but she said it was the sorriest dishwasher she ever owned. Went back to a kitchenaid. I don't think it was so bad, she just had a bug in her head about it. She hates her Buick LeSabre also. I can't find anything wrong with it. Go figure.
step mom had a maytag she used for years, but she said it was the sorriest dishwasher she ever owned. Went back to a kitchenaid. I don't think it was so bad, she just had a bug in her head about it. She hates her Buick LeSabre also. I can't find anything wrong with it. Go figure.
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She's probaly one of those people who drive me crazy that say they say they don't like something, but can never tell you exactly what it is when you try and pin them down to specific.
She's probaly one of those people who drive me crazy that say they say they don't like something, but can never tell you exactly what it is when you try and pin them down to specific.
