Opinions Needed on Souping-Up a 1970s Helical Drive Maytag

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Too bad it's not possible to replace the lint filtering material in Maytag's screen filters...can't wait to see the Coronado and Speed Queen agitator's in action
 
Easy filter

The filter is pretty useless. It depends on the water being pushed up the fin of the agitator with the forward stroke. If the water level isn't right it won't work. Even when it does work there is not much water pushed into the filter pan
 
Lint Filters In AWs

The most effective lint filters in top loading washer were the WP-KM models in the late 50s-mid 60s that had a metal screen that you cleaned, also about as good were the first GE FF models with the metal filter pan and of corse the WP-KM belt drive machines that had a separate self-cleaning filter that's back washed when draining by the water pump. After these examples no other brand or machine came close in overall effectiveness.

 

When our family switched from a TL solid tub 1960 Franklin built washer [ with a useless agitator mounted lint filter and overflow rinse ] to a 59 LKM with a self-cleaning filter my Mom and I could not believe the difference, we thought the lint filter in the dryer had stopped working as there was less than 1/2 as much lint in the dryers filter load after load.

 

Overflow rinsing in a ST machine is good at getting rid of floating scum but not that great at rinsing detergent or lint away because lint stays very evenly dispersed in water as long as the agitation is going. Also lint does not float, take a mason jar fill it with water and some dryer lint, shake and and a day later the lint will all be at the bottom of the jar.

 

John L.
 
Robert

Can you use an older Neptune motor? Not sure how complicated they are. Or the motor you use is more simple.
Ps I’d love to see this in person, I live in Des Moines and go to Minneapolis couple times a year.
 
I agree about the Easy lint filter, it's not very effective and the water level has to be just right for it to work very well at all. But I also agree with Yogi, with everything going in the dryer a lint filter generally isn't necessary. The exception to that in my opinion is washing things with pet hair. That I like to use the solid-tub Filter-Flo for as it is by far easiest to clean with a lot of lint.

I'll get working on more videos next week, right now I'm working on another major update to the machine. I tried the Franklin angel wing agitator yesterday and I was not too impressed with the results. The Maytag and Easy agitators are much better, but I'll try it again with a different kind of wash load and see.

Let me know ahead of time that you're coming Tom and I can give you a tour of my machines and the new Maytag, or maybe as I called it the other day the Mayszy!

More to come soon.
 
My final major mod to this machine! It's my trademark lol...

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Stopped by Robert's yesterday on another mission and got to see this egineering marvel.

It's really kind of nuts. It looks like a Maytag, but it doesn't sound or act like a Maytag!

The suspension clearly holds up to the increased rpms of the spin. It's pretty much silent.

And the test load that we run was Unimatic dry.
 
Like I said, Robert, I love and respect what you do to your appliances, so given the way Maytag makes all action stop when you open the lid, I am glad you solved of this by putting in your own windowed lid...

-- Dave
 
This may be a stupid question, but where do you get the different agitators?
Not stupid at all Mike! I've collected them over the years out of machines I either have or had.

given the way Maytag makes all action stop when you open the lid, I am glad you solved of this by putting in your own windowed lid
Thanks Dave, I solved this problem by adding both a window lid and a toggle switch to override the lid switch and make the machine work with the lid open. The only issue with that is the unbalanced switch wont work if the toggle switch is set to override, so if I leave the machine I always set it back to lid-switch active.
 
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This oob/lid switch question is way over my head but please humor me nevertheless.
The OOB sensor in some way uses some of the same circuitry as the LS. So it seems you need *something* that can realize the LS defeat switch is on, AND the OOB sensor is sending the signal something is out of whack. Then that *something* sends a signal to the appropriate subsystem to shut down the machine.
Related: anyone know of a good Bloody Mary recipe?
 
The OOB sensor in some way uses some of the same circuitry as the LS. So it seems you need *something* that can realize the LS defeat switch is on, AND the OOB sensor is sending the signal something is out of whack. Then that *something* sends a signal to the appropriate subsystem to shut down the machine.

Oh yes I thought of that, but too much work for now. I'm happy with the results of the machine as is.

I have decided yet which agitator I like better, either the Maytag or the Easy. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. I think the Maytag agitator with a quick power-boost at the beginning of the agitation is winner by a hair.
 

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