ORANGE CAKE RECIPE

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Does anyone know where I can get the orange cake recipe, that used to be in the cook book, that came with the old Sunbeam Mixmaster. I had it once but lost the recipe. I would love to have it again! If anyone could help me out with this, I would greatly appreciate it.
Hugs,
David
 
David,
Here is my recipe for Orange Cake. It was my maternal Grandma’s recipe. I took it to work a few times before I retired and it was popular. It is has a very rich orange flavor. I use butter when I make it, the shortening was in Grandma’s original recipe.

FYI a cube of butter is the West Coast vernacular for a stick of butter or 1/2 cup.

HTH,
Eddie

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Looks like an interesting recipe and will need to try it since orange is one of my favorite flavors. I do have a question on the frosting recipe. What measure is "one cube of butter" or "one and one half cubes butter"? I assume a "cube" of butter is one tablespoon - but that doesn't doesn't sound quite right... Is that supposed to be "cups"?
 
The NPR article in reply#7 about butter cubes vs sticks states that the cube shape for butter on the West Coast began in the 60’s due to the use of new manufacturing machinery. This is incorrect. I’m a 72 year old native Californian and the only shape of butter that I’ve ever known here is the cube. For a brief period about 6 years ago Target was selling their store brand of butter in the stick shape here. I hated that form because I wasn’t familiar with it. The cube form fits better in most butter dishes too.

As stated in my reply #1 “cube”is the West Coast vernacular (ie. Lingo) for a “stick”” of butter. Regardless, whether cube or stick they each equal 1/2 cup, or 4 oz. or 8 tbs. I hope that this answers this question. I used cube in my recipe because thats the way all my families handwritten recipes calling for butter were written and it’s the terminology that I’ve known all my life.

Eddie
 
Eddie, I never knew "cube" was a West Coast thing.  My mom was born and raised in the Chicago area and lived there until she married my dad in 1949 at age 35.  She always used the "cube" term instead of "stick."  Since I have tendencies to see the logical side of things, I began using "stick" after hearing it on cooking shows on PBS, talk show segments, etc. long before the Food Network existed, and assumed that "stick" had East Coast origins.  Maybe a member from Wisconsin can explain how the two terms came about?
 
Ralph,
I believe that the term cube came about because thats the way butter and margarine were packaged here. Perhaps in Chicago they also packaged it that way? Or maybe after your Mom moved to California and everyone around her was referring to butter as cubes rather than sticks she just assimilated to the use of the terminology that those around her were familiar with and used?

I never knew anyone that was a native Californian to use the term stick when referring to butter, hence the assumption that it is a “West Coast” thing. The NPR article pretty much comes to the same conclusion, only their timeline is off.

BTW, during WWII when margarine cost less ration points to buy many people used it instead of butter. The dairy industry in Wisconsin had a law implemented that prohibited margarine from being sold in cubes or sticks and it couldn’t be colored yellow either. So margarine was sold in white 1 lb. blocks in plastic bags with a small color capsule embedded in the block. The buyers then had to massage the plastic bag to break the capsule and knead the bag until a uniform yellow color was achieved and then refrigerate it to harden it again to cut into cubes or sticks for table service.

Eddie[this post was last edited: 6/7/2023-13:08]
 
"[COLOR=#444444; font-family: montserrat, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18px; font-weight: 400]Today, Wisconsin still has some margarine laws. Restaurants cannot legally serve margarine unless they also offer butter. Schools and prisons must serve butter to students and inmates, unless a doctor provides a valid health reason. Breaking these laws can bring fines and even jail time, but the laws are almost never enforced anymore." Taste of Home 7/15/2022[/COLOR]

 

[COLOR=#444444; font-family: montserrat, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]<span style="font-size: 18px; font-weight: 400;">My mom's parents used to smuggle Blue Bonnet margarine home when they would visit relatives in Beloit, WI. They would go across the state line to South Beloit, IL and load up at the grocery stores that had cases of it stacked from floor to ceiling. [/COLOR]</span>

 

[COLOR=#444444; font-family: montserrat, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]<span style="font-size: 18px; font-weight: 400;">The WI anti-yellow margarine law was on the books from 1895-1967.[/COLOR]</span>
 
There's far more out there on the interwebs than just this. The "stick" format (eastern format) was the original format--I read that when California dairy production started revving up the stick-butter-cutter manufacturer had stopped producing the stick-butter-cutters so west coast started using the cube-r. There are some rather comical pictures out there.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news...eep-yellow-margarine-out-oleo-run/1950671001/
 
Jamie,
I did a google search too and found several hits that all say the same thing, that the step up of dairy production in the 60’s caused the use of new machinery to cut the California produced butter into cubes, rather than sticks.

Well I can attest that from the early 50’s on cubes were and are the only way that butter has been sold in California, with the rare exception a few years ago when Target changed their store brand of butter to Good and Gather and for the first few months this butter was sold in sticks, like in the eastern part of the country. This is not my imagination.

These articles are all wrong about the advent of butter being sold in cubes in California starting in the 60’s. Margarine was also sold in cubes, not sticks here in Northern California where we have had a very large dairy industry for several decades.

See the Wikipedia article on Butter in the link, particularly the section on packaging.

Eddie[this post was last edited: 6/7/2023-19:35]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butter#Whey_butter
 
I don't use butter anymore but it was always part of life in the past. It was always sticks or those big blocks that are the same size as four sticks stacked.

The memories though:
Garlic bread loaf from Mama Mia's Italian restaurant soaking in a melted stick of butter,
butter cream icing on a cake,
butter cookies,
melting butter on waffles,
dinner rolls with freshly applied pad of butter,
Butter Brickle icecream,
corn on the cob with a pad of butter coating it,
baked potato with butter-sour cream- green onion pieces- green pepper pieces- bacon pieces-oregano- pepper-salt.....
need I go on?



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Lard

Stan,
I’ve never used lard when baking a cake, but I imagine it would work. Lard is fairly neutral in flavor so the finished cake would probably be similar in flavor to one baked with Crisco. Years ago I made pie crust a few times with lard and it was very good, very flaky and tender and easy to roll out.

Eddie
 
Pie crust

I seem to do well with Eddie and have used lard too...very flaky. I’ve read that lard has zero tans fat and if ur able to get leaf lard that has not been hydrogenated..even better.
It’s cakes that I don’t do well with. I don’t have ur talent!
I’ve had some success, but had to throw out my fair share.
But I may give ur orange cake recipe a go.
 
Stan,
I hope you’ll give it a try, its really easy. Don’t let cake baking intimidate you. I suggest making it with butter for the flavor.

Not to confuse you, but for the past 4 or so years now I bake all my cakes made with butter using the “reverse creaming”method. Its as easy as making a cake mix. You simply put all the dry ingredients into a large bowl, add the room temperature, soft butter and mix at low speed until the mixture looks like wet sand. The add all the wet ingredients and mix on low for 30 seconds until blended now increase speed to med and beat for 3 mins., pour batter into prepared pans and bake as usual.

Cakes made this way come out perfect every time. I know alot of people may disagree with this. But I saw this on “Cooks Illustrated” and tried it and it made me a believer. Is similar in a way to the double quick Betty Crocker method and the quick method in the old Sunbeam Mixmaster cookbooks.

Eddie
 
That orange cake recipe really has my mind reeling wondering if my mom ever made it or even my grandmother and I might even remember it as a sponge cake...

I'd surely like to make this the way I see it here perhaps as a bundt cake as it may have been that in design and I know it didn't have frosting of which the recipe for it would make a great accompaniment...

-- Dave
 
Thanks for the info on cube vs stick. I never knew there was so much out there on that topic and having always lived in the east, always used the term "stick". Interesting point on the "reverse creaming" method for cake baking. I have used that method since the 1980's and I first saw it in Rose Levy Beranbaum's iconic book "The Cake Bible". That method really does produce beautiful results every time!!! Originally published in the mid 1980s The Cake Bible is still in print today and is really the definitive instructional guide to baking foolproof and flawless cakes. My point is that if you have any fear of baking cakes, you should try to get your hands on this book and you will be rewarded. I even taught myself to make wedding cakes from this book. Beranbaum has a background in science so her recipes and methods are detailed, exacting and incredibly well explained. It's a big book but a fascinating read for anyone who likes to bake. She has several books and my other baking favorite is "The Pie and Pastry Bible". Never had a pie crust failure from that book.

Funny, I baked a lot in the 1990's and early 2000's since we really didn't have great bakeries for traditional layer cakes and pies here - except what you could get in supermarket bakeries and one or two not so great places. Since I don't do well with anything made with shortening (especially commercial "buttercream" frosting which to me only tastes like grease - and yes that includes all that canned frosting), I started baking. Then as we got further along several really good bakeries opened up and I had less time to bake.

But most recently, with bakery prices going sky high ($75.00 for a layer cake at Magnolia Bakery in NY and $35.00 for a pie), I decided it was time to haul out the Kitchen Aid and start baking again. Also, I am sort of semi retired and have a little more time. And I had forgotten that baking is kind of relaxing. So this orange cake recipe comes along at the right moment and since I love orange more than any other flavor will try it soon.
 
Reviewed the above recipes and it looks just absolutely wonderful. Trying to lose weight though, so I’m hesitant to start baking. Looks delicious. I’ve lost 4 lbs in the last couple of weeks, and pants are not feeling as tight!! 😂. Sure hard to lose weight when ya get older!!!

Barry
 
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