Overlapping Bowls

[Chetlaham]

Does anyone overlap their bowls like the picture I found online? Does anyone do this with vintage machines? Does anyone do this with modern machines? I'm curious how well this results in good cleaning and in what machines. I have to admit I don't do this anymore with my Maytag dishwasher and rarely did in the past. 

 

 

 

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[daveamkrayoguy]

Most overlapping with bowls, pots, pans and types of dishware and containers usually doesn't affect how well my much newer dishwasher does in the way of thorough cleaning...

I usually just about never re-do anything unless what I put in just needed a little scraping, which also is rare...

-- Dave

 

[appnut]

Looks like how I load a dishwasher with very dirt dishes. And it's a PowerClean, what's the problem?

 

[combo52]

Overlapping bowls in a dishwasher load.

How else are you supposed to load bowls, if you have a better idea chet why don't you post pictures of it rather than starting a silly thread, the bowls in the picture are loaded the way the instructions show.

Do you just sit around and think this stuff up, have you ever considered you shouldn't wash more than one sock in a load of laundry because they might touch, lol

John L

 

[DADoES]

 
Yes, bowls (and other items) often are nested.  I've posted in the past several photos of how I manage a typical load.

The most recent load yesterday had a few items stacked and crammed-in moreso than usual.  Everything emerged clean, including an item for which I had reduced expectations.  The only slight glitch was that I used Cascade Complete powder for both prewash and main wash instead of the usual Fryer Boil Out for the main wash.  There was a bit of dusty residue visible on a couple plastic items, including the black handle of a knife, which doesn't occur with the Boil Out.

 

[qsd-dan]

I could do that with the KDS 18/19/20 and the Powerclean. Carefully with the RR Maytag. Definitely NOT with the Point Voyager!

 

[qsd-dan]

"have you ever considered you shouldn't wash more than one sock in a load of laundry because they might touch, lol"

My old next door neighbor had a daughter with severe OCD(??) who did exactly that. She washed every piece of clothing sperate in a top load DD washer. That washer was running almost non stop during her every waking hour. I remember seeing gallons of detergent jugs stacked everywhere in the garage where the washer and dryer resided. I hope she didn't dry everything separately but probably did. Feel bad for their water bill although she probably kept the sewer lines nice and clean, lol.

 

[maytag85]

Reply #6

I’ll admit I am sort of the same way but usually wash socks with socks, shirts with shirts, shorts with shorts, jeans with jeans, towels with towels, sheets with sheets, blankets with blankets etc etc.

Just want things to get cleaned to their fullest potential, along with doing laundry when necessary.

 

[stevet]

Point Voyager nesting

Bob and Dan,
Having worked on hundreds of Hobart dishwashers, I have OCD when it comes to placement of dishware in our Point Voyager Kitchenaid machine. I know where and how the water is going to go and know where I can get away with nesting bowls and such.

I have used that style of DW since 2005 and can still count on one hand how many times we had a plate of bowl with food left on it.

I must say, though, that I replaced the 4 way Hydro-sweep arm with the Whirlpool lightning bolt arm. It is a longer arm than the KA arm and hits the silverware and culinary caddy with more water and to me the machine was actually quieter than with the KA arm.
My wife always rearranges the cups and glasses in the top rack even after my telling her that there is very little water that gets sprayed into the corners from the washarm and not to put tall items in the corners. If she doesn't heed my advice, the stuff in the corners will sometimes come out with yibbles inside.

 

[daveamkrayoguy]

#6 qsd dan:

 

i'm sure washing one plate/bowl/pot/pan/glass/mug/cup/dish/silverware/utensil etc. at a time would be just as bad...

 

 

 

-- dave

 

 

[qsd-dan]

Stevet

Bottom rack performance in the PV is fine...not great like a Powerclean/18-20 Hobart but very acceptable. No problems with yibblets on the silverware but I always load that area properly, spoons aren't nesting, nothing jammed too tight, etc. My beef is upper rack performance. It's miserable!

Next time I do a load, I'll shoot before and after pics.

 

[egress]

The Point voyager upper rack was a point of issue with ours too. seemingly perpetual yiblets! even after replacing the brittle cracked feed pipe it failed to perform nearly as well as our new KA does.

 

[tomturbomatic]

But they got the water use down which got them a "good boy" and a pat on the head from the federal regulators.

 

[Chetlaham]

Partial Load

Here is today's partial load. I generally do not overlap bowls as mine are heavy, the tins really don't allow much overlapping, and I don't want my bowls getting scratched. And of course my dishwasher isn't a power clean so the spray doesn't deflect much.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

in my case

If water gets through to the dirty surfaces, it doesn't matter which it usually does.

 

[Chetlaham]

Another One

Needed the tiny sauce pan this time. Didn't want to hand wash it- it was gross. Strainer is almost impossible to wash by hand. The rubber seals on the plastic lids are also difficult to hand-wash because of the crevices. I know, I did something naughty.

 

[combo52]

Reply number 13 and 15

Wow, you'll never get a Bob load certification, lol

Chet you're showing the perfect example of why we've been forced to re-engineer dishwashers to use less water because people do ridiculous things like that. You're ruining a perfectly good dishwasher running at half full.

Older dishwasher is used 12 to 20 gallons of water to wash a big load of dirty dishes, but engineers and energy regulators. Realize people do stupid things like you're doing only filling them halfway so that's why dishwasher now use 3 to 6 gallons of water.

I feel really sorry for your parents.

John

 

[foraloysius]

Oh geez! Such waste of water and energy. I have never not overlapped bowls. They always came out clean.

What rubbish bowls get scratched when you overlap them?

 

[magic_clean]

Whirlpool tall tub

platform is now 25 years old. The original Point Voyager went through various revisions to improve efficiency, loading, cleaning, sound and reliability. The early machines didn't have the best upper rack cleaning results unless carefully loaded. Eventually, this was improved through rack and spray are refinements and by the mid 2000's it was solved.

The tall tub continues on in several entry level models and has a reputation for very good all around results.

-LP