servisspectrum
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Are own brand powders and liquids as good quality as leading brands such as Persil or is it all about marketing?
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zanussi_lover
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Own Brand Detergents
I personally think they are just as good quality as leading brands, Ive been using Almat Bio/Colour Washing tablets from Aldi and Lidls Formil Biological Powder, and both are very good, they remove stains effectively, particularly stains on socks for example.
even though i do have some brand name detergents (Daz Tablets, Persil Non Bio powder) I do think these have more umph when it comes to Whiteness, as they tend to more bleaching agents to keep Whites Whiter for example.
Kyle
I personally think they are just as good quality as leading brands, Ive been using Almat Bio/Colour Washing tablets from Aldi and Lidls Formil Biological Powder, and both are very good, they remove stains effectively, particularly stains on socks for example.
even though i do have some brand name detergents (Daz Tablets, Persil Non Bio powder) I do think these have more umph when it comes to Whiteness, as they tend to more bleaching agents to keep Whites Whiter for example.
Kyle
Personally...
...I find the branded stuff is generally better, and you can often get a bargain on branded detergent that there is little and often no price advantage in buying own brand.
Allegedly the cheaper stuff has more fillers etc, but then again how true that is I don't know.
Jon
...I find the branded stuff is generally better, and you can often get a bargain on branded detergent that there is little and often no price advantage in buying own brand.
Allegedly the cheaper stuff has more fillers etc, but then again how true that is I don't know.
Jon
liberatordeluxe
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I think Persil is the best in terms of brands! Modern Ariel i don't think cleans well and leaves stains behind. They also have launched all these add on products where as Persil trusts its products to do the job right first time.
zanussi_lover
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Add on products
I was just thinking why do Ariel need add on products if its meant to be the best washing powder? I much prefer Daz in terms of scent and cleaning as its cheaper too, but I agree with what your saying with Persil in terms of a one product only to clean everything.
Apparently they want us to wash at 30 degrees for everything, and it doesn't work as well at 30 so they want us to add stain removers and disinfectants to the wash.
I was just thinking why do Ariel need add on products if its meant to be the best washing powder? I much prefer Daz in terms of scent and cleaning as its cheaper too, but I agree with what your saying with Persil in terms of a one product only to clean everything.
Apparently they want us to wash at 30 degrees for everything, and it doesn't work as well at 30 so they want us to add stain removers and disinfectants to the wash.
paulc
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Kyle,
Have you seen the price of Ariel stain remover now? Shocking!!! I tried the Ariel stain remover when it was 1st launched as it was on special. The combination of sudsy Ariel and the stain remover sent my machine into a total hissy fit. It added extra rinses ( a total of 5 ) and the suds still hadn't completely gone. I ended up running the express cycle on cold with extra rinse in effect giving 4 more rinses and that cleared the suds on the second rinse.
I know I stated earlier that I was using Ariel again and it whitened better than Persil, clearly as it must have more OBA's but I was just putting laundry away and pairing up my white trainer socks when I noticed they were not completely clean. This to me shows Ariel has definitely diminished in cleaning power. The socks were washed at 50 deg on min iron, short option de-activated, total cycle time 1hr30mins so they should have been spotless! I must admit, they were pretty grubby, I had dropped a jar of coffee and the granules when all over the kitchen floor and quite a lot got on my socks when I was cleaning up, even so I would expect a premium brand powder to be able to shift such stains.
I have just got back from Sainsburys as I was going to get two boxes of Daz tablets for £9 as advertised on their web site. They didn't have any even though there was a ticked stating Ariel, Daz and Bold tablets were two boxes for £9. When I asked one of the store assistants where the Daz tablet were I was told that that branch did not stock them! I almost bought normal Daz powder but remembered some one commenting it's performance wasn't that great. I ended up getting a box of Bold Rose Blush and Peony as it smelt divine! Have a load of white towels, tea towels and dish cloths on a boil wash as I write this. I must say my kitchen smells heavenly....will let you know the results!
Have you seen the price of Ariel stain remover now? Shocking!!! I tried the Ariel stain remover when it was 1st launched as it was on special. The combination of sudsy Ariel and the stain remover sent my machine into a total hissy fit. It added extra rinses ( a total of 5 ) and the suds still hadn't completely gone. I ended up running the express cycle on cold with extra rinse in effect giving 4 more rinses and that cleared the suds on the second rinse.
I know I stated earlier that I was using Ariel again and it whitened better than Persil, clearly as it must have more OBA's but I was just putting laundry away and pairing up my white trainer socks when I noticed they were not completely clean. This to me shows Ariel has definitely diminished in cleaning power. The socks were washed at 50 deg on min iron, short option de-activated, total cycle time 1hr30mins so they should have been spotless! I must admit, they were pretty grubby, I had dropped a jar of coffee and the granules when all over the kitchen floor and quite a lot got on my socks when I was cleaning up, even so I would expect a premium brand powder to be able to shift such stains.
I have just got back from Sainsburys as I was going to get two boxes of Daz tablets for £9 as advertised on their web site. They didn't have any even though there was a ticked stating Ariel, Daz and Bold tablets were two boxes for £9. When I asked one of the store assistants where the Daz tablet were I was told that that branch did not stock them! I almost bought normal Daz powder but remembered some one commenting it's performance wasn't that great. I ended up getting a box of Bold Rose Blush and Peony as it smelt divine! Have a load of white towels, tea towels and dish cloths on a boil wash as I write this. I must say my kitchen smells heavenly....will let you know the results!
liberatordeluxe
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Am afraid i can not tolerate Bold or Ariel scents in my house they all give me bad headaches. I like the smell of Persil origional non bio and fairy non bio the best. They both smell soapy and not artificial like. Ariel is a load of rubbish and won't reccommend it to anyone anymore its overpriced and doesn't work. I think the own brands clean better compared to modern Ariel and usually its the other way around!
zanussi_lover
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Paul
Ariel stain remover is pointless. I agree its disgusting, why do we need it?
Old formulas of Ariel were better - Ariel Automatic/Ariel Futur/Ariel Essential/Ariel with Quickwash action etc
I bet Paul if you would have washed your socks in an older formulation of Ariel, i bet at 40*c the stains would have come out and you would have spotless whites and socks.
I have very high standards, I like a detergent to get my washing spotlessly clean at 40*c (for most stains), wash whites so they sparkle, Rinse out well, and have a nice smell thats not overpowering.
I have to say I will never buy Ariel, unless its Ariel Color Powder as I like the smell (its the same scent its always been)
Ariel stain remover is pointless. I agree its disgusting, why do we need it?
Old formulas of Ariel were better - Ariel Automatic/Ariel Futur/Ariel Essential/Ariel with Quickwash action etc
I bet Paul if you would have washed your socks in an older formulation of Ariel, i bet at 40*c the stains would have come out and you would have spotless whites and socks.
I have very high standards, I like a detergent to get my washing spotlessly clean at 40*c (for most stains), wash whites so they sparkle, Rinse out well, and have a nice smell thats not overpowering.
I have to say I will never buy Ariel, unless its Ariel Color Powder as I like the smell (its the same scent its always been)
Ariel Stain Removers...
Are not meant to be used with Ariel bio powder, (Why ever would you need to) they can be used to compliment other detergents not fully loaded with bleach and max cleaning components..........they are positioned in the market place to be used with own brand and inferior detergents...and to compete with "Vanish" type products...
Ariel Stain Remover products where brought to market to take a fair chumk of the "Vanish" market. that sector alone is worth millions for Reckitt......and in that score it worked, within months the new Stain Removers had made a mega dent in that market..........so people do like those blue bottles and apparently what it says on the tin!!!
Are not meant to be used with Ariel bio powder, (Why ever would you need to) they can be used to compliment other detergents not fully loaded with bleach and max cleaning components..........they are positioned in the market place to be used with own brand and inferior detergents...and to compete with "Vanish" type products...
Ariel Stain Remover products where brought to market to take a fair chumk of the "Vanish" market. that sector alone is worth millions for Reckitt......and in that score it worked, within months the new Stain Removers had made a mega dent in that market..........so people do like those blue bottles and apparently what it says on the tin!!!
optima
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stain removers
A total waste of time is Ariel in wash stain remover it's useless & it's not a cheap product, shame on you Procter & Gamble. The only decent stain remover i have found effective is the classic Vanish soap bar for tough stains.
A total waste of time is Ariel in wash stain remover it's useless & it's not a cheap product, shame on you Procter & Gamble. The only decent stain remover i have found effective is the classic Vanish soap bar for tough stains.
paulc
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Sorry Mike
I didn't make it clear, had used Ariel Stain remover with Ariel liquitabs not the powder. Was typing too fast again and missed that out.
I didn't make it clear, had used Ariel Stain remover with Ariel liquitabs not the powder. Was typing too fast again and missed that out.
Each to their own...
Weve put it through its paces at a few wash-ins , generally on towels and clothing used and worn to repair machines, it did the job no problem....
Weve put it through its paces at a few wash-ins , generally on towels and clothing used and worn to repair machines, it did the job no problem....
Hi Paul....
No problem, its ideal for boosting the gels etc...and other detergents needing a boost...
I should have said I was responding to liberator & zannylover who rather tend to state their case non too subtleyand in ya face!!!
Anyone buy and use MILTON steralising solution??
No problem, its ideal for boosting the gels etc...and other detergents needing a boost...
I should have said I was responding to liberator & zannylover who rather tend to state their case non too subtleyand in ya face!!!
Anyone buy and use MILTON steralising solution??
paulc
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Mike,
Do you mean use Milton on laundry? I used to use it for cleaning. I did work with a chef who used Napisan on his chefs whites but I have never tried to use it or Milton on laundry.
Do you mean use Milton on laundry? I used to use it for cleaning. I did work with a chef who used Napisan on his chefs whites but I have never tried to use it or Milton on laundry.
liberatordeluxe
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A soap bar like Vanish or washing up liquid is better than these add on products. If Ariel was that good we wouldn't need this add on products! Persil hasn't got add on products and cleaning ability is better from my experience. I used the green box Ariel and it fails to remove food stains like tomato sauce etc even if i turn the temperature up. Waste of time and money. The Ariel Ultra was excellent and removed loads of stains at low temperatures.
Mike!
I've used the Milton sterilising solution thats designed for laundry. You can only but it from certain places. Apparently Waitrose sell it but we only have small waitrose stores in the Northeast so i bought it online. It has a self measuring dispenser at the top that you squeeze and add to the fabric conditioner compartment. It has a strong smell though. Very evident on clothes but ok for towels and bedding which its designed for. Oddly enough you can buy dettol laundry disinfectant in australia which has a very mild eucalyptus scent. Its good stuff. I've looked on Reckitt & Benkiser website and it looks like Auz & NZ are the only places you can buy it. On the british site it recommends just adding normal Dettol.. Barf! far too strong a scent for my liking!
I've used the Milton sterilising solution thats designed for laundry. You can only but it from certain places. Apparently Waitrose sell it but we only have small waitrose stores in the Northeast so i bought it online. It has a self measuring dispenser at the top that you squeeze and add to the fabric conditioner compartment. It has a strong smell though. Very evident on clothes but ok for towels and bedding which its designed for. Oddly enough you can buy dettol laundry disinfectant in australia which has a very mild eucalyptus scent. Its good stuff. I've looked on Reckitt & Benkiser website and it looks like Auz & NZ are the only places you can buy it. On the british site it recommends just adding normal Dettol.. Barf! far too strong a scent for my liking!
passatdoc
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Persil washes whiter, and it shows.....
...too bad I have virtually no whites to launder, other than a few white dress shirts!!
Last May while in London, I visited three different Sainsburys Express stores within walking distance of my hotel, and all three were sold out of Persil. That should have told me something, unless one goes on the assumption that Persil sold out first because of its name recognition among tourists (one of the three stores was in Paddington Station, another in Bayswater, etc.). I'm aware that a larger "real" Sainsburys or Tesco probably would not have been sold out of Persil, but lack of time (and scarcity of full sized stores in central London, plus the ones I could locate were not near tube stations) forced me to settle for what Sainsburys Express had on its shelves.
I settled for Ariel Bio powder: I needed to wash a few things in the hotel room sink, but my main objective was to bring home several boxes for stateside use. I still had some Via Colour from a trip to Sweden (Unilever's name for Persil in Sweden, with ads and packaging identical to UK Persil) and it slightly outperforms the Ariel here at home---but both Ariel and Via outperform our stateside HE powders such as Tide HE and Gain HE.
Because I flew home from London in Economy and was thus permitted only one bag at 50 lbs/23 kgs, I placed the four boxes of Ariel in my cabin bag (a wheeled backpack with retractable handle). American Airlines has limits on the dimensions of cabin bags, but not on the weight (I believe British Airways is the same, however when they specify 22 inches/45 cm, BA means wheels and handle included).
I was selected for random cabin bag inspection at Heathrow T3 (American Airlines) and the officer did ask why I was bringing four boxes of detergent home to the USA. I explained that US detergents are inferior because FL technology is still relatively new here (well, it's old, been here since the 1930s but what I meant was that a majority of the US still uses TL machines, with FL now a majority of new washers sold) and that UK products give superior results.
No worries, he let me through and no, he did not ask me why I had not purchased Persil, which enjoys a royal warrant from HM The Queen. Had he asked, I would have answered that someone's mum (The Queen in this case) knows that Persil washes whiter, and it shows.
...too bad I have virtually no whites to launder, other than a few white dress shirts!!
Last May while in London, I visited three different Sainsburys Express stores within walking distance of my hotel, and all three were sold out of Persil. That should have told me something, unless one goes on the assumption that Persil sold out first because of its name recognition among tourists (one of the three stores was in Paddington Station, another in Bayswater, etc.). I'm aware that a larger "real" Sainsburys or Tesco probably would not have been sold out of Persil, but lack of time (and scarcity of full sized stores in central London, plus the ones I could locate were not near tube stations) forced me to settle for what Sainsburys Express had on its shelves.
I settled for Ariel Bio powder: I needed to wash a few things in the hotel room sink, but my main objective was to bring home several boxes for stateside use. I still had some Via Colour from a trip to Sweden (Unilever's name for Persil in Sweden, with ads and packaging identical to UK Persil) and it slightly outperforms the Ariel here at home---but both Ariel and Via outperform our stateside HE powders such as Tide HE and Gain HE.
Because I flew home from London in Economy and was thus permitted only one bag at 50 lbs/23 kgs, I placed the four boxes of Ariel in my cabin bag (a wheeled backpack with retractable handle). American Airlines has limits on the dimensions of cabin bags, but not on the weight (I believe British Airways is the same, however when they specify 22 inches/45 cm, BA means wheels and handle included).
I was selected for random cabin bag inspection at Heathrow T3 (American Airlines) and the officer did ask why I was bringing four boxes of detergent home to the USA. I explained that US detergents are inferior because FL technology is still relatively new here (well, it's old, been here since the 1930s but what I meant was that a majority of the US still uses TL machines, with FL now a majority of new washers sold) and that UK products give superior results.
No worries, he let me through and no, he did not ask me why I had not purchased Persil, which enjoys a royal warrant from HM The Queen. Had he asked, I would have answered that someone's mum (The Queen in this case) knows that Persil washes whiter, and it shows.
liberatordeluxe
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As some on here have mentioned they have found Ariel Excel gel difficult to rinse out of clothing i wonder if this applies to all the new concentrated liquids? Does anyone have any problems with Ariel non concentrated liquid rinsing out?
