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Speaking of psoriasis:

I was watching a travel special about the country of Turkey. There was a type of therapy tank (like a swimming or wading pool) filled with flesh-eating fish. Bathers sat immersed and one could see the fish exfoliating the patrons.

Not sure psoriasis was one of the mentioned candidates for treatment of this type, but still..........
 
Sheesh! What a mess!

I, too, often have to deal with bloodstains. Since I started with this condition 10 years ago, I have re-wardrobed my apparel to be mostly black or white. Black is a non-issue with stains. Bloodstains on whites I treat with the Clorox "bleach pen" and that takes care of the problem. I'm going to give the peroxide thing a try.

I have good luck with a new Rx called "Taclonex", but it's very expensive $300+ for a 4 oz. tube. Fortunately I have Rx insurance so I only pay $12 for it. It is an ointment so it does result in staining. I also use a generic Rx that is a steroid cream for minor flare-ups. Not as effective but less mess.

Wish I had a nickel for every time I sat with my head in my hands and just wept for all the misery from this disease.
 
Speaking of flesh-fish

http://www.psoriasis.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31431&highlight=turkey+fish
http://www.psoriasis.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21509&highlight=turkey+fish
http://www.psoriasis.org/forum/showthread.php?t=19493&highlight=turkey+fish
http://www.psoriasis.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13149&highlight=turkey+fish
There was a discussion on UK psoriasis boards (http://www.psoriasis-help.org.uk/community/) that implied that the sanitation at the Turkish spa left a lot to be desired. Unfortunately, you have to register in order to view it: http://www.psoriasis-help.org.uk/forum/index.php/topic,32558.0.html)

ptcruiser51: I'm very active in the psoriasis community. I'm very active on the message board at www.psoriasis.org and I co-faciliate a support group that meets at 7:00 p.m. on the last Tuesday of every month (we take a break for the summer and we don't meet in December) at Rockefeller University Hospital in New York City. (It's on 66th and York; kind of sort of across the street from Sloan Kettering; it's a very long walk from the subway, unfortunately.) Attendance is spotty we average four people a meeting and there are some months when no one shows up. That said, being in the same place at the same time as other people who are dealing with them same issues that you and I have to deal with every day is priceless. It's actually one of the best things that I've ever done in terms of my disease. If you live close to the city, we'd love to have you join us.

Some of us are getting together for dinner on January 8th (one of our members has a daughter who is performing in the City). Again, you're more the welcome to join us.

My e-mail address is in my profile if you'd like more info or if you just need to talk.

Mike
 
Blood stains

I am a bit of a loss with the bloody stains and the problems people seem to have with them.

Why use a chemical especially if you have time to soak?

My grandmother and my mother have both instilled in all of us that the best (cheapest) way to get blood out is to soak in cold water for as long as possible - preferably 24hrs. Then grab a bar of soap (any soap...I use the same thing I use in the shower) give it a bit of a rub and then launder as you would normally.

Miele.com.au states

Blood - At the first sign of blood, try the following first aid remedy. Rinse immediately under cold running water, and then soak in a solution of salty water. Dried on blood stains should be soaked in a solution of ammonia before being washed.

I have never done the salty water or ammonia....and have not needed to.

For most Australians, though not me, that would have meant a main brand powder detergent (Omo, Cold Power, Radiant, Drive, Surf, Bio Zet et.al) in a cold wash in a top load machine. For me, that would be a 40c wash in a front load machine....

Blood gone.

But more importantly, there are next to no additional chemicals and there is minimal cost (apart from soak time) which has to be good for the skin, the environment and your back pocket.

It is worth trying
 
Bleach again! Yes, I told that it goes in the prewash (and only for tough stains they say!) or it might go in the bleach compartment (that you can't find in any modern post 1985 washing machine here), I have no idea how does the bleach do with the detergent, nor I want to try :)

Blood stains:
I have quite often blood leaking from my noose if I get a cold because of some fragile capillaries, it usually happens at night so when I wake up i have dirty pillowcases and linens, by then the blood is also dry. I never had trouble removing it, simply put on a 40° (coloured cottons) or 60° (whites and light colours) with my favourite powder and the stains are gone without pre treating (liquids sometimes fail this). It usually comes away even in cold (30°) if the stain isn't too old shoud it happen on delicates! What kind of commercial machines are you using?
 
Scrambled eggs anyone?

Blood, and most proten-based stains needs cold to cool water or the protein sets ("cooks") above about 104*F (40*c).
 
Bleach Again

Gabriele. I believe at one time the Clorox bottle saya to add the bleach 5 min. after the washing cycle begins. Adding the bleach with detergent does a great job, but if added at the beginning, it will slow down the clean power of the detergent.

Now for blood stains......Simply holding the garment under fast cold running water for a few min will get most of the stain out. Even dried in blood stain. Then eihter use SHOUT, (the new one) or pre wash or soak in Oxi clean first. WOrks every time. There are also special sport removers in the grocery store by Carbona. I believe there is one for blood stains also.

Hope this helps
 
Too cold water WILL set blood just as fast as hot water

The best temp to use for blood is 95 to 98F . I use that temp on 4000+lbs of blood laden work daily and have NEVER in 35 years had ANY problem with it not ALL comming out. When pushed for time on Surgery linens we put 1 lb alkali in while loading and start the load right off at 160. The alkali will keep the blood from setting and knocks it right out. Saving time and water. The main trick is the alkali must be in the wash wheel BEFORE the water starts.
 
L C B

Gabriele:

Clorox brand liquid chlorine bleach.

1.77 litres (1.87 quarts)
$2.00 (I'm sure the price is less in a bigger store).

Active ingredient: Sodium Hypochlorite 6.0%
Other ingredients: ................... 94.0%
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TOTAL: .................................100.0%
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Looks like there is a difference in concentration!

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