P&G Discontinues Powder Products in Latin America

[liamy1]

Came across this video on YT.

It mentions that P&G discontinued production of powder detergents for Ariel and Ace.

Hopefully, it will be many, many years (if ever) that this happens in the UK. With powder being our biggest seller, can't see it; not until the next generation or so anyway - as children of today (and their children) will be increasingly brought up using liquid detergents - as mentioned in the Powder vs Liquid thread by Michael.

Wonder if the US could see this in the not so distant future though?

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=GasGVcMXZMA

 

[lordkenmore]

As much as I hate to think about it, I wouldn't be surprised if powders didn't vanish from the US market sooner rather than later. I have noted that the powder detergent selection has gotten worse and worse over the years. At one store where I regularly shop, there is a long line of liquids, and only a small selection of powder detergents in one corner of the detergent department.

I hate to admit it, but I've gotten to a point of buying mostly liquids. I think it's been a year since I last bought a powder detergent. I'd prefer using powder detergent, but the choices are so limited now. Plus I need to be careful with money, and the liquids end up being where the good deals are to be found.

 

[grwasher_expert]

If powder products get discontinued,how would people wash their whites?Do liquid detergents in America contain oxygen bleach or they are using a separate bleach product?I can't imagine washing all my clothes with liquid.I wouldn't feel my whites and underwear any clean at all.

 

[liamy1]

Liquid detergents

GR_Washer.

No detergents anywhere in the World contain oxygen bleach as far as I know. It's down to the manufacturing process, they can't keep oxygen bleach stable in a liquid formulation.

In America, it is still common practice to use Liquid Chlorine Bleach in white washes.

If powder was ever lost (which I don't see for a long time in Western Europe), then you would have to use either chlorine bleach or a product like vanish etc.

If liquid detergents ever reach a stage when they contain oxygen bleach, then I think this would be when we could start to seriously see powders demise.

 

[iheartmaytag]

I have noticed that the store shelves are now dominated by either PODS or Liquids.  The powder section is now just one row four shelves high and about four feet long at the end of the isle.

 

[logixx]

Liquid Detergent + Bleach

Unilever sell a dishwasher gel with oxy bleach, which they put in some sort of pearls (I suppose) to make it stable.

 

[grwasher_expert]

Vanish produces oxygen bleach in liquid form.Couldn't it be somewhat integrated into a liquid detergent?

 

[liamy1]

Vanish..

I have often wondered that GR_Washer. It just seems for whatever reason, there is NO liquid detergent worldwide that has oxygen bleach in it - even the "Bleach Alternative" liquid detergents like Tide etc don't seem to list oxygen bleach in their ingredients.

Another weird one, the newish Persil "dual action capsules" that we have here in the UK (containing a liquid and a powder stain remover in one), is advertised as working on "bleachable" stains. But STILL does not contain any oxygen bleaching agents.

Link below

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjha53pis2I

 

[logixx]

See reply above: Sun Expert Gel with oxygen pearls.

As for the Persil Pods... I don't know *wtf* is wrong with Henkel but to sell a Universal detergent without bleach in it - for the money they are asking - is just wrong.

 

[logixx]

Woops, my bad. Your Persil Pods are made by Unilever - ours are made by Henkel. Interesting that neither contain bleach in their powder part.

 

[grwasher_expert]

German Persil is comppletely different to UK's Persil,but both brands produce dual caps with liquid and powder.Don't they contain any oxygen bleach,even in the powder section?

 

[grwasher_expert]

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[liamy1]

Don't they contain any oxygen bleach,even in the powder

Nope, nada bleach at all.

The non bio ones make me laugh, no enzymes and no bleach, so how are they are a stain remover product?

Yes as mentioned on the other thread, the non bio ones will have a high surfactant count, but that's it.

I have used both versions of the dual action capsules (bio and non bio), and they both smell nice and seem to clean ok. Haven't used them continuously enough (I don't with any detergent to be fair) to see if they would produce dingy whites.

I still like a good solid powder for whites.

 

[grwasher_expert]

I've seen that in Spain there is a liquid detergent that contains Vanish stain removing agents(agentes quitamanchas) and I was wondering if it contains any oxygen bleach in its composition.I think it is produced by Reckitt Benckiser. Is there anyone who has travelled to Spain and tried it?

P.S. I wonder who thought that this funny,reminiscent of bowel, brand name is an appropriate name for a detergent...

 

[liamy1]

haha

What an odd name for a detergent. Never been to Spain, so never tried it.

Could be total guff, but I read somewhere years ago that the reason the OMO brand would not work as a name these days, is because it sounds like "homo". Really don't know if that is true (and it's prejudice too).

But then, OMO is still a very much well known name worldwide. In some countries it is the genericized term for detergent.

 

[logixx]

That Colon gel does not seem to have bleaching agents in it.

 

[logixx]

Here's the dishwasher gel by Unilever.

 

[liamy1]

So...

Even that doesn't contain Oxygen Bleach?

If I remember rightly, the reason why Oxygen Bleach is not in liquid detergents, is because how Oxygen Bleach works.

When powder oxygen bleach mixes with a liquid (water) - it releases Oxygen (this is what helps with lifting stains from fabrics), and the reaction only lasts for a short time.

Of course, a liquid detergent is already a liquid, so if Oxygen Bleach was added at manufacture, it would be useless by the time the consumer got it - as the reaction would have occurred, oxygen released, then gone.

In a powder, the oxygen bleach is encapsulated in the granules and the reaction only happens when introduced to water - this is why you will notice washing powder makes a slight "fizzing" sound when you put it in water when hand washing.

There seems to be no way of keeping oxygen bleach "unused" until needed in a liquid.

As logixx said, in the Dishwasher detergent it seems to be encapsulated.

It also makes me think, is this the same for Vanish?

But for some reason, there doesn't seem to be a detergent with Oxygen Bleach in it. Even the Colon with Vanish that you linked GR_Washer.

 

[liamy1]

Looking at....

Our UK version of Vanish Liquid, in the ingredients, it says that it contains Oxygen Bleach, but interestingly does NOT contain any enzymes.

All powdered Vanish I have ever bought contains both Oxygen Bleach and enzymes, so it's perhaps the interaction of liquid oxy bleach and enzymes?

But then again, UK non bio liquids that don't have enzymes, also don't have oxygen bleach *whereas the powder non bios do.

I really don't know.

http://https//www.amazon.co.uk/Vanish-Stain-Remover-Wash-Liquid/dp/B00820Y8I0/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8