Blackstone, thanks for your reply. I saw a real Blackstone only 1 coinop in a row of whirlpool coin ops, long ago in New Orleans. It was indeed avocado, and it was washing away. I dont know if the others failed or maybe the owner bought 1 to try them out. At the time i had only heard of the Blackstone brand, in one of the tide commercials in a magazine. But i still remember seeing it. door hinge does rhyme with orange quick call "Eminem", LOL, Thanks again for the info. Arthur