Perm press cool down

[supersurgilator]

I just wanted to report that we just got back from visiting my grandparents who have a 2005 Kenmore washer. I was under the impression that all toploaders made these days did a spin spray cool down, however I was surprised to find that their Kenmore still did a partial drain and refill. Does anybody know if Whirlpool is the only manufacture to still use the partial drain and refill for the cool down? I know that SQ used a spin spray as did the last of the true Maytags before whirlpool took over. I have no idea about GE or Frigidiare.

 

[DADoES]

 
My 1999 and 2004 F&Ps both do a cool down via a *full* drain and refill. I don't know if the latest models still do so.

 

[rapunzel]

My 2007 Speed Queen...

...still does the partial drain and re-fill. It also fills and agitates with the lid open.

 

[launderess]

Whirlpool .... Won't Make A Mess Of Your Permanent Press

My Whirlpool partially drains, pauses for about a minute, then fills with cold water, agitates for a minute or so, then drains totally.

Oh then there are three spray rinses before the deep rinse.

How is that for "Cool Down Care"?

"Whirlpool has so many ways to get you through your busy day.. Whirlpool!"

 

[toggleswitch2]

Some later model Maytags also did a partial spin-and-drain cooldown in the PP cycle.

Not as predictable as WP and Kenmore in that water level settings and the necessity of a simultaneous spin & drain(as opposed to a neutral drain) made a difference.

Too bad no manny discussed that putting permanet-press in a dryer meant the PP washer cycle was just a waste of water. In that case, a good long DRYER cool-down was the best method to relax and reduce wrinkles.

 

[mrb627]

Shorter and Slower Spin

I suppose that the shorter and slower final spin might have played some part in reducing wrinkles. But I agree, the additional partial water fill seemed unneccessary. We never used the PP cycle on our machine.

Malcolm

 

[launderess]

If one washes in cold, cool or even perhaps warm water, then the PP cycle becomes less necessary.

Polyester and the rest of the man made fiber lot are thermoplastic textiles. Thus if one washed such items in hot water and then spun at once, whatever wrinkles created by the wash cycle and certainly the spin, would be "set" by the heat. A final cold rinse would seal the deal, and there you have it, "permanent" pressed wrinkles that no amount of ironing or tumble drying would remove.

The above is also the rationale for long cool down cycles on dryer's PP setting. You want to make sure such items are at room temperature ( or below) to prevent wrinkles from being heat set.

 

[frigilux]

My 2006 Frigidaire top=loader has no perm-press cool-down. There is a 20-second cold spin-spray in every cycle. This is a worst case scenario for perm press items. The machine is almost always up to speed when the spray takes place, so the items are compressed first, then sprayed with cold water, which sets in a million wrinkles---even when you choose a slow spin.

I can't wash my perm-press catering/banquet tablecloths in the top-loader. They come out horribly wrinkled.

That's the nice thing about my Frigidaire front-loader. Every cycle has an automatic cool-down at the end of the wash cycle via the suds-kill flush-out. I wash the banquet tablecloths in hot water on the Whites cycle, and they come out wrinkle-free thanks to the cold water suds kill before the first spin.

 

[mixfinder]

Spit and Shake

My Maytag does a partial drain and refill with cold water on the permanent press cycle. It sits for a few minutes and then agitates on low speed before giving a low speed spin. Regardless of what water temp or speed selection you press on the permanent press cycle it auto forces cold rinse and slow spin.

 

[DADoES]

The ~10-years-old Kenmore 90 I refurbished recently does a Whirlpool "standard" partial-drain, refill, and agitate on its Permanent Press II cycle. It has a separate speed selection switch, and interestingly the timer does not force a slow-spin on PP ... it follows the switch selection.

Look up a tech sheet at ServiceMatters.com and check the timer sequence chart to see what newer Whirly models do.

 

[favorit]

someone doesn't use the dryer ......

that's the reason for the cooldown routine is still used in washers

The cooldown is really useful when I run polyester, linen or no-iron cotton clothes @ 140°F (permapress cicle)
The graduated spins also do make a huge difference.

I wish the Novotronic had the cooldown even in the 140°F cotton cycle, not only on the boilwash.

Anyway, comparing my old W780 with the Novotronic, I do agree the vintage FL waste a lot of water in the permapress cooldown and rinse worse than more recent ones with spins between rinses

 

[alr2903]

Maytag use and care books, for the farbimatic machines used to encourage the PP press cycle for items, "requiring an extra rinse". alr2903