kenmoreguy89
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*if you used a liquid before
Persil Pro Clean powder or liquid?
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Cheer powder doesn't have OBAs but does have oxygen bleach.
OxiClean™ recently introduced a new product, name of Dark Protect™ Laundry Booster, available in liquid and powder forms.
Dark Protect™ liquid ingredients
Dark Protect™ powder ingredients
launderess
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Worry about using powders for deeply coloured and or dark laundry is residue from insoluble or not totally dissolved solids.
Zeolites aren't soluble which under certain situations can lead to a sort of white "dust" appearing on darker fabrics. Often things going through dryer will remove much if not all of this "lint".
Cheap powders that contain lots of fillers such as cellulose (sawdust),which depending upon various factors can also leave a visible residue on darker coloured textiles.
Powdered laundry detergent formulas have advanced much since 1970's when users were routinely advised to dilute product in hot water before using a cold wash. But there is "cold" water,and there is cold water.
Great thing about liquid detergents for dark or deep coloured things is that you'll likely have less issues with dissolving even if tap cold water is on the chilly side.
Zeolites aren't soluble which under certain situations can lead to a sort of white "dust" appearing on darker fabrics. Often things going through dryer will remove much if not all of this "lint".
Cheap powders that contain lots of fillers such as cellulose (sawdust),which depending upon various factors can also leave a visible residue on darker coloured textiles.
Powdered laundry detergent formulas have advanced much since 1970's when users were routinely advised to dilute product in hot water before using a cold wash. But there is "cold" water,and there is cold water.
Great thing about liquid detergents for dark or deep coloured things is that you'll likely have less issues with dissolving even if tap cold water is on the chilly side.
launderess
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Have said this before....
Cheer detergent famous "colour guard" formula was the addition of small amounts of oxygen bleach (IIRC sodium perborate). This built upon chemistry that oxygen and chlorine bleaches cancel each other out. The small amount of oxygen bleach was just enough to counter chlorine found in most local tap water, but not enough to cause significant bleaching of colors.
Sodium perborate really needs water temps of >140F or above to get going, something not many would be washing colors in anyway. This is why various all fabric bleaches or detergents that contained sodium perborate advertised they were "safe for colors". Now if you used those products in a boil wash that was another story.
Sodium percarbonate OTOH is a stronger oxygen bleach and works in cold water. Across Europe borates/borax now have a nasty name. They have been banned and or restricted so many laundry detergents/oxygen bleaches have moved over to sodium percarbonate. Even with fact people are washing at lower temperatures today you don't want to risk exposing dark or richly colored things too often to any sort of bleach. Hence you find powder detergents for colors that don't contain oxygen bleach.
Cheer detergent famous "colour guard" formula was the addition of small amounts of oxygen bleach (IIRC sodium perborate). This built upon chemistry that oxygen and chlorine bleaches cancel each other out. The small amount of oxygen bleach was just enough to counter chlorine found in most local tap water, but not enough to cause significant bleaching of colors.
Sodium perborate really needs water temps of >140F or above to get going, something not many would be washing colors in anyway. This is why various all fabric bleaches or detergents that contained sodium perborate advertised they were "safe for colors". Now if you used those products in a boil wash that was another story.
Sodium percarbonate OTOH is a stronger oxygen bleach and works in cold water. Across Europe borates/borax now have a nasty name. They have been banned and or restricted so many laundry detergents/oxygen bleaches have moved over to sodium percarbonate. Even with fact people are washing at lower temperatures today you don't want to risk exposing dark or richly colored things too often to any sort of bleach. Hence you find powder detergents for colors that don't contain oxygen bleach.
kenmoreguy89
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Persil do not contain zeolite...nor do any of Henkel's powders sold in Europe.
Typically Procter and Gamble products contain less than 5% , it is cheap powders to blame for high concentration of zeolite along with a much more alkaline solution as they use carbonate as a builder instead of policarboxilates and phosphonates, zeolite as Launderess said could not get completely rinsed out thus being visible on colours.
I personally avoid powders containing large amounts of zeolites also because the can pose a risk of clogging pipes and sewers as there Torquay residue will settle down on pipes or in a septic tank they will bknd with fats creating clogging.
Good powders usually do not give such problems
Typically Procter and Gamble products contain less than 5% , it is cheap powders to blame for high concentration of zeolite along with a much more alkaline solution as they use carbonate as a builder instead of policarboxilates and phosphonates, zeolite as Launderess said could not get completely rinsed out thus being visible on colours.
I personally avoid powders containing large amounts of zeolites also because the can pose a risk of clogging pipes and sewers as there Torquay residue will settle down on pipes or in a septic tank they will bknd with fats creating clogging.
Good powders usually do not give such problems
kenmoreguy89
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Unfortunately in the United States you don't get a clear chart of ingredients written on packages but you can easily get an ingredient list by downloading the Safety data sheet on The maker's websites.
You will also be able to see how many enzymes does a product contain and what kind of builders-water softeners and fillers it does have and pick what's best for you.
You will also be able to see how many enzymes does a product contain and what kind of builders-water softeners and fillers it does have and pick what's best for you.
