Persil UK Detergent
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There are all kinds of enzymes, Persil Sensitiv made by Henkel contains a few but not the one that people are usually allergic to. I think it might be Protease, but I'm not sure.
There are all kinds of enzymes, Persil Sensitiv made by Henkel contains a few but not the one that people are usually allergic to. I think it might be Protease, but I'm not sure.
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Nets
What are the nets, and why are they necessary? Seems like when they had tabs here, they were "naked" and you just chucked theminto the machine.
What are the nets, and why are they necessary? Seems like when they had tabs here, they were "naked" and you just chucked theminto the machine.
Jaune,
The nets are basically so that the tablets don't dissolve all over the clothes and leave specs of undissolved detergent all over clothes, especially with the machines of a few years ago which used shallow washes as well as shallow rinses. (The newer machines do deeper rinses as the manufacturers are starting to realise that they don't rinse well otherwise).
I've included a link for you,
Jon
The nets are basically so that the tablets don't dissolve all over the clothes and leave specs of undissolved detergent all over clothes, especially with the machines of a few years ago which used shallow washes as well as shallow rinses. (The newer machines do deeper rinses as the manufacturers are starting to realise that they don't rinse well otherwise).
I've included a link for you,
Jon
Detergents contain a vast array of "fillers" and various agents that are designed to ensure that they disperse properly and can be flushed out of the dispensor drawer effectively.
The Proctor and Gamble tablet have a combination of two chemicals which start to release gas (CO2 or Oxygen) when water is added. The tablets litterally start to fizz and disintegrate in the drawer.
To be quite honest, I can't see the point of detergent tablets. It's much easier and more environmentally friendly to use a scoop and powder!
Likewise, liquid detergents don't make a lot of sense in front loading washing machines unless you're adding it to the dispensor drawer. The drawer automatically dilutes, disperses and helps to disolve the detergent and ensures that it's evenly distrubuted throught the wash and that it starts having an impact on the laundry from the start.
Adding detergent in a ball or putting tablets into the drum in a low-water consumption washer can only make the wash results worse as they will remain undisolved for a signifigant amount of time and won't be distrubuted around the load quickly enough.
For the most part these balls, liquids, tablets and other dosing methods are simply markting gimics to improve sales.
Also, on the issue of High Efficiency detergent. In the UK (and I assume throughtout Europe) we really have no alternatives to what you guys call HE detergents, except for a couple that are specifically designed for handwashing.
In the 1970s the low-foaming detergents were called "Automatic" e.g. Persil Automatic, Daz Automatic, Ariel Automatic. Non automatic detergents were for use in semi-automatic toploading twin tub machines and for handwashing only.
So, I'm not even sure if you used a US-style toploader here if you could source appropriate detergent as the products available here are all designed for tumble action front loading machines
The Proctor and Gamble tablet have a combination of two chemicals which start to release gas (CO2 or Oxygen) when water is added. The tablets litterally start to fizz and disintegrate in the drawer.
To be quite honest, I can't see the point of detergent tablets. It's much easier and more environmentally friendly to use a scoop and powder!
Likewise, liquid detergents don't make a lot of sense in front loading washing machines unless you're adding it to the dispensor drawer. The drawer automatically dilutes, disperses and helps to disolve the detergent and ensures that it's evenly distrubuted throught the wash and that it starts having an impact on the laundry from the start.
Adding detergent in a ball or putting tablets into the drum in a low-water consumption washer can only make the wash results worse as they will remain undisolved for a signifigant amount of time and won't be distrubuted around the load quickly enough.
For the most part these balls, liquids, tablets and other dosing methods are simply markting gimics to improve sales.
Also, on the issue of High Efficiency detergent. In the UK (and I assume throughtout Europe) we really have no alternatives to what you guys call HE detergents, except for a couple that are specifically designed for handwashing.
In the 1970s the low-foaming detergents were called "Automatic" e.g. Persil Automatic, Daz Automatic, Ariel Automatic. Non automatic detergents were for use in semi-automatic toploading twin tub machines and for handwashing only.
So, I'm not even sure if you used a US-style toploader here if you could source appropriate detergent as the products available here are all designed for tumble action front loading machines
Hey MrX,
I bet all your detergents would be classified as HE over here. Since nearly 99% of your washers are front loaders, they are all controlled suds, or dosed in a way to make them as efficient as can be in those washers. In a US top loader, you probably have to use double or triple the amount to get the right results in 15-20 gallons of wash water.
Any of you Euro-washerboys taking orders from us to bring detergents Stateside when you come for Convention?
I bet all your detergents would be classified as HE over here. Since nearly 99% of your washers are front loaders, they are all controlled suds, or dosed in a way to make them as efficient as can be in those washers. In a US top loader, you probably have to use double or triple the amount to get the right results in 15-20 gallons of wash water.
Any of you Euro-washerboys taking orders from us to bring detergents Stateside when you come for Convention?
The full list of detergents on the UK / Ireland market
P&G:
See : http://www.uk.pg.com/products/houseAndHome/laundry.html
UniLever:
Ecological options:
Ecover www.ecover.com
There are some smaller brands like Easy
and various supermarkets have their own brand detergents which are generally pretty good and come in similar ranges of powders, tablets, bio, non-bio, liquids etc etc.
P&G:
See : http://www.uk.pg.com/products/houseAndHome/laundry.html
UniLever:
Ecological options:
Ecover www.ecover.com
There are some smaller brands like Easy
and various supermarkets have their own brand detergents which are generally pretty good and come in similar ranges of powders, tablets, bio, non-bio, liquids etc etc.
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