The price at Walmart.com is reasonable: $9.97 for 37 loads.
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I bought a bottle of the powder (pearls) original scent today, mom gave me a coupon last week so thought I'd try it. 50 load size was 11.97 and my coupon was for $1 off. I figured for 10.97 I'd splurge on the bigger size and get 15 loads more for only an extra $1.
She bought a box of the Persil pods but hasn't used them yet.
I've give the powder a try this week and see how it goes. A little birdie told me this was mostly just Purex level performance in a prettier package. Another birdie told me the scent was too much for their nest. I guess we'll see.
She bought a box of the Persil pods but hasn't used them yet.
I've give the powder a try this week and see how it goes. A little birdie told me this was mostly just Purex level performance in a prettier package. Another birdie told me the scent was too much for their nest. I guess we'll see.
jerrod6
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My pet parrot has explained to me that this is not the regular Purex level performance because I have used Purex and Persil from Germany. I don't think this is the same.
One thing that IS the same is Purex sensitive fabric softener and Vernel sensitive fabric softener. I bought the Purex first, 3 dollars for something that looked like a gallon jug. $14 for the Vernel sensitive in the regular size Vernel bottle purchased at the online Persil store. The exact same thing....same scent....same performance. Won't be doing THAT again.
One thing that IS the same is Purex sensitive fabric softener and Vernel sensitive fabric softener. I bought the Purex first, 3 dollars for something that looked like a gallon jug. $14 for the Vernel sensitive in the regular size Vernel bottle purchased at the online Persil store. The exact same thing....same scent....same performance. Won't be doing THAT again.
Will be interesting to see what Consumer Reports has to say about it.
mich
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Persil doesn't = Purex
Just look at the ingredients. Purex honestly could be considered by some to just be as effective as plain old water.
Persil contains a strong Enzyme cocktail in all their variations. Not to mention, the Oxygen Bleaching system found in the Powder.
Their just not the same. Honestly I'd go as far to say it's Lemons to Oranges. It's no comparison.
Just look at the ingredients. Purex honestly could be considered by some to just be as effective as plain old water.
Persil contains a strong Enzyme cocktail in all their variations. Not to mention, the Oxygen Bleaching system found in the Powder.
Their just not the same. Honestly I'd go as far to say it's Lemons to Oranges. It's no comparison.
That's interesting about the Purex and Vernel softeners being the same.
I did one load with the new Persil last night in the '67 Kenmore washer. It was a pretty big load of dark cottons. Results seemed to be pretty good in my softened water. No suds and the rinse water was clear enough to pass. I didn't use fabric softener in this first run as I wanted to see if the clothes were left harsh feeling after drying, but I rarely use softener anyway.
All in all, the cleaning was good and they seemed reasonably soft. The scent was strong going in to the machine, but after drying, it was barely perceptible. I thought it was a bit more fruity/citric smelling, more than I like in a detergent, but the end result was OK.
While the results were good and the cleaning was satisfactory, I so have to say that the bottle left a lot to be desired. I'm sure hoping someone will get a verbal lashing for that debacle along the way. What looks to be the same bottle and cap shapes as the liquid turns out to be wholly inadequate for dispensing powder. Noticing this in the store, I removed the lid carefully at home in a vain effort to not spill the bouncy, rolling pearls. To no avail. The little pearls collect in the top rim of the bottle and the "drain" hole is too small for them to quickly fall back into the bottle. When attempting to pour the detergent into the cap, the pearls around the rim of the spout spill out and many don't make it into the cap, spilling onto the machine, floor etc.
The cap itself has nearly invisible markings inside to indicate what "line" you're measuring to. I suppose this helps the overdosing desires of the manufacturer that sell more product.
So far, I like the performance. I will likely pick up a bottle of the liquid at some point and give that a try as well.
I did one load with the new Persil last night in the '67 Kenmore washer. It was a pretty big load of dark cottons. Results seemed to be pretty good in my softened water. No suds and the rinse water was clear enough to pass. I didn't use fabric softener in this first run as I wanted to see if the clothes were left harsh feeling after drying, but I rarely use softener anyway.
All in all, the cleaning was good and they seemed reasonably soft. The scent was strong going in to the machine, but after drying, it was barely perceptible. I thought it was a bit more fruity/citric smelling, more than I like in a detergent, but the end result was OK.
While the results were good and the cleaning was satisfactory, I so have to say that the bottle left a lot to be desired. I'm sure hoping someone will get a verbal lashing for that debacle along the way. What looks to be the same bottle and cap shapes as the liquid turns out to be wholly inadequate for dispensing powder. Noticing this in the store, I removed the lid carefully at home in a vain effort to not spill the bouncy, rolling pearls. To no avail. The little pearls collect in the top rim of the bottle and the "drain" hole is too small for them to quickly fall back into the bottle. When attempting to pour the detergent into the cap, the pearls around the rim of the spout spill out and many don't make it into the cap, spilling onto the machine, floor etc.
The cap itself has nearly invisible markings inside to indicate what "line" you're measuring to. I suppose this helps the overdosing desires of the manufacturer that sell more product.
So far, I like the performance. I will likely pick up a bottle of the liquid at some point and give that a try as well.
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passatdoc
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Having brought back Persil in the plastic bag containers for so many years, I am accustomed to emptying the packets into a sealed container (usually a Glad sealable plastic container, intended to store food) to avoid spills.
I did break down and violate my no=Walmart pledge by purchasing an $11 bottle of the pearls online (at least I did not set foot inside the store), which I am giving away to a relative who owns a FL washer but who has never used Persil. When I eventually buy a bottle for myself, I will empty it into a Glad container as I've always done with the bought-in-Germany plastic bags.
I agree the US bottle for pearls is very poorly designed, but as said above, for years I've just emptied the package into a Glad container and then the original packaging (plastic bag; now bottle) goes into the plastic recycling bin.
I did break down and violate my no=Walmart pledge by purchasing an $11 bottle of the pearls online (at least I did not set foot inside the store), which I am giving away to a relative who owns a FL washer but who has never used Persil. When I eventually buy a bottle for myself, I will empty it into a Glad container as I've always done with the bought-in-Germany plastic bags.
I agree the US bottle for pearls is very poorly designed, but as said above, for years I've just emptied the package into a Glad container and then the original packaging (plastic bag; now bottle) goes into the plastic recycling bin.
Why I braved The dreaded Wal*Mart on 4-13-15
I was nearly out of detergent. I got the 50 load bottle of the blue liquid Persil. First load was badly stained cotton whites/tank hot. Better than Tide liquid by a long shot. Looked as though I had bleached them with chlorine. Rinsing in my 1997 Dependable Care was excellent. The scent after the dryer was mild and unobtrusive.
Now for why I rarely shop at Wal*Mart......The store is always messy looking--displays, especially of soft lines always look pawed through. Worse, is the way their employees are paid.....or not paid. It is no exaggeration to say that the heirs of founder Sam Walton are among the wealthiest people in the United States. It is also no exaggeration that most Wal*Mart employees qualify for one of more social safety programs, including SNAP (food stamps,) Medicaid, and Section 8 housing. Taxpayers pay for these social programs. I generally go to Wal*Mart no more than twice a year, and many years not at all.
I just hope that Persil comes to "normal" stores soon!
also, could we please open a new thread about Persil? this one is getting long and a bit s-l-o-w.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
I was nearly out of detergent. I got the 50 load bottle of the blue liquid Persil. First load was badly stained cotton whites/tank hot. Better than Tide liquid by a long shot. Looked as though I had bleached them with chlorine. Rinsing in my 1997 Dependable Care was excellent. The scent after the dryer was mild and unobtrusive.
Now for why I rarely shop at Wal*Mart......The store is always messy looking--displays, especially of soft lines always look pawed through. Worse, is the way their employees are paid.....or not paid. It is no exaggeration to say that the heirs of founder Sam Walton are among the wealthiest people in the United States. It is also no exaggeration that most Wal*Mart employees qualify for one of more social safety programs, including SNAP (food stamps,) Medicaid, and Section 8 housing. Taxpayers pay for these social programs. I generally go to Wal*Mart no more than twice a year, and many years not at all.
I just hope that Persil comes to "normal" stores soon!
also, could we please open a new thread about Persil? this one is getting long and a bit s-l-o-w.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
joe_in_philly
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With the recent updates to the site, only the postings made since your last reading should display when you click on the yellow rinse button. Is that happening for you?
The main problem with the Persil powder bottle is that they left in a spout that really only works properly with liquid. But the spout is easily removed, esp. if you use a pair of pliers to grip it. Then the thing pours properly without the spillage the damn spout causes.
Thanks, Rich, I will try yanking that spout out of the bottle. Didn't even check that - it's easier to complain. LOL
Years back
I bought the bib box of MegaPearls, I liked the performance but even scooping from the box carrfully the pearls ran all over the place and melted into the concrete floor. It took months to rinse them out. I would not buy a pearl product again.
I bought the bib box of MegaPearls, I liked the performance but even scooping from the box carrfully the pearls ran all over the place and melted into the concrete floor. It took months to rinse them out. I would not buy a pearl product again.
I think the new Persil Power Pearls clean well enough, but I don't like the lingering odor of the "Intense Fresh" version. I may try the regular version at some point, but for now I'm going back to Sears Ultra Plus with Oxyclean for my routine washing.
Clutch the Pearls
I have a box of MegaPearls for colors that I got for free when I bought the W1918 almost 11 years ago. There is a little oval measuring cup in the box that works well, but I haven't used the MPFC more than a few times. If I have to wash something dark, I use the Cheer color guard liquid in 80F water.
I have a box of MegaPearls for colors that I got for free when I bought the W1918 almost 11 years ago. There is a little oval measuring cup in the box that works well, but I haven't used the MPFC more than a few times. If I have to wash something dark, I use the Cheer color guard liquid in 80F water.
jerrod6
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I normally would use Megaperls for whites which contains Oxygen bleach, Megaperls for colors which contains VINYLPYRROLIDONE/VINYLIMIDAZOLE COPOLYMER which is an ingredient that prevents one color from being in the water and staining another color, and then for darks there is Persil for blacks or darks. So I don't think Megaperls for color was ever intended to be used on darks.
Like others have said I never used the Megaperls out of the box either. I always dumped them into separate containers. Each box did contain a dosing cup so I have several of these around the house. Even with the cup I measure the detergent into it with a tablespoon.
I was always pleased with the Megaperls performance because I didn't need to use any other additives, and so far with the version sold in the USA I have not needed additives either.
If the Perils or even powder get all over the place try sucking them up with something like a Dyson hand held vac. I use this to clean my dryer screen after each load and it works with the Perls or powder too.
Like others have said I never used the Megaperls out of the box either. I always dumped them into separate containers. Each box did contain a dosing cup so I have several of these around the house. Even with the cup I measure the detergent into it with a tablespoon.
I was always pleased with the Megaperls performance because I didn't need to use any other additives, and so far with the version sold in the USA I have not needed additives either.
If the Perils or even powder get all over the place try sucking them up with something like a Dyson hand held vac. I use this to clean my dryer screen after each load and it works with the Perls or powder too.
passatdoc
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Agree re: why I don't shop Walmart. In addition to the deplorable manner in which the employees are treated, they have a history of running the smaller stores out of business, then raising prices when they are the monopoly. As said earlier, there is a hillbilly/white trash atmosphere in our store, with the worst aspect being that check-out can take 30+ minutes as every customer's credit or debit card in the line ahead of you is declined (or else there is a coupon dispute).
K Mart may have been tacky, but around here its Latino customer base was hard-working and very strict with their kids (they did not view the store as their kids' person playground) and, best of all, their credit/debit cards always WORKED. I would not want to wear the clothes sold there, but for these families it was a matter of pride to be able to buy new and something their kids wanted rather than pawing through a second hand store. K Mart wasn't fancy, but neither was it a 99 cent store either.
The other reason I avoided WalMart is that I knew one of the Walton sons on a social basis before he died (airplane crash) and was less than impressed. He along with several other wealthy trust fund kids sponsored a failed 1993 ballot initiative to create school vouchers. While I can see the justification for two-income parents trying to earn, say, parochial school tuition, Walton saw nothing wrong with a billionaire receiving vouchers as well, i.e. he opposed means testing. He never worked a day in his life and was not the sort of person who should have been lecturing those of us who work hard every day. I agree with maytagbear in that much of the family's wealth derives from keeping their workforce at just above the poverty level.
K Mart may have been tacky, but around here its Latino customer base was hard-working and very strict with their kids (they did not view the store as their kids' person playground) and, best of all, their credit/debit cards always WORKED. I would not want to wear the clothes sold there, but for these families it was a matter of pride to be able to buy new and something their kids wanted rather than pawing through a second hand store. K Mart wasn't fancy, but neither was it a 99 cent store either.
The other reason I avoided WalMart is that I knew one of the Walton sons on a social basis before he died (airplane crash) and was less than impressed. He along with several other wealthy trust fund kids sponsored a failed 1993 ballot initiative to create school vouchers. While I can see the justification for two-income parents trying to earn, say, parochial school tuition, Walton saw nothing wrong with a billionaire receiving vouchers as well, i.e. he opposed means testing. He never worked a day in his life and was not the sort of person who should have been lecturing those of us who work hard every day. I agree with maytagbear in that much of the family's wealth derives from keeping their workforce at just above the poverty level.
mich
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Funny
It's a statistical fact that wealthy shoppers rave about the pampering they receive at upscale retailers like Neiman Marcus, Lord & Taylor and Barneys. But here’s a question to ponder: How often do wealthy shoppers actually shop in those stores?
Turns out, not a whole lot—or so a new survey from Millionaire Corner suggests. The wealth management news site recently polled 1,200 investors, asking them where they drop coin. Among respondents with a net worth of $5 million or higher, the top retail destinations were Home Depot, Lowe’s and Target—with 61, 44 and 41 percent reporting, respectively, that they like to shop there.
Nearly half the well-heeled respondents also said they liked to shop at Costco, and a <span style="font-family: 'arial black', 'avant garde';">full third admitted to setting foot in Walmart</span>. Yep, Walmart—where $386 buys a pleather living room set—and Costco, home of the $59 gold tone chronograph watch.
Why would people with summer homes and tech stock portfolios bother with such places? Maybe the better question is: Why not?
“Ordinary folks make a huge mistake when they feel that millionaires and other wealthy individuals do not shop at stores with good prices,” said Millionaire Corner president Cathy McBreen, who adds that frugality and hard work are common reasons that rich people give for why they’re rich in the first place. <span style="font-family: 'arial black', 'avant garde';">“That means,” McBreen said, “they are just like everyone else.”</span> Well, maybe not just like everyone else.
Nevertheless, when it comes to shopping, the similarities between the fabled 1 percent and the rest of us are rather striking. That includes online shopping, too. McBreen’s research revealed that 47 percent of the wealthy routinely use Groupon.
So if moneyed Americans are busy plying the aisles of big-box discounters, where does that leave luxury retailers whose very raison d’être is serving the prosperous? Apparently, it leaves them pretty empty. Millionaire Corner’s survey found that Lord & Taylor (part of Hudson’s Bay Company, which also owns Saks) was a regular destination for just 3 percent of multimillionaire respondents.
Neiman Marcus, with 8 percent, didn’t fare much better. Surprisingly or not, Millionaire Corner isn’t the first researcher to uncover results like these. When the Luxury Institute published its annual Luxury Consumer Experience results last year, it reported that while affluent shoppers “love the Lord & Taylor experience,” only 14 percent of them actually set foot in Lord & Taylor within the preceding year. Most of those shoppers—66 percent, to be exact—were busy at Target.
McBreen added that one reason the affluent aren't throwing money around in high-end stores is because they're not throwing money around, period.
“When asked how much they spend on clothing annually, most of them will indicate that they spend less than $2,500 annually,” she relates. “How much can you buy at Neiman Marcus for that amount? ” Just for the record, right now at Neiman Marcus, $2,490 will buy you exactly one Yves Saint Laurent Y-Ligne Cabas handbag in blue calfskin. By contrast, that same amount at Walmart will pay for 228 pairs of Jordache jeans. Act now, while supplies last.
It's a statistical fact that wealthy shoppers rave about the pampering they receive at upscale retailers like Neiman Marcus, Lord & Taylor and Barneys. But here’s a question to ponder: How often do wealthy shoppers actually shop in those stores?
Turns out, not a whole lot—or so a new survey from Millionaire Corner suggests. The wealth management news site recently polled 1,200 investors, asking them where they drop coin. Among respondents with a net worth of $5 million or higher, the top retail destinations were Home Depot, Lowe’s and Target—with 61, 44 and 41 percent reporting, respectively, that they like to shop there.
Nearly half the well-heeled respondents also said they liked to shop at Costco, and a <span style="font-family: 'arial black', 'avant garde';">full third admitted to setting foot in Walmart</span>. Yep, Walmart—where $386 buys a pleather living room set—and Costco, home of the $59 gold tone chronograph watch.
Why would people with summer homes and tech stock portfolios bother with such places? Maybe the better question is: Why not?
“Ordinary folks make a huge mistake when they feel that millionaires and other wealthy individuals do not shop at stores with good prices,” said Millionaire Corner president Cathy McBreen, who adds that frugality and hard work are common reasons that rich people give for why they’re rich in the first place. <span style="font-family: 'arial black', 'avant garde';">“That means,” McBreen said, “they are just like everyone else.”</span> Well, maybe not just like everyone else.
Nevertheless, when it comes to shopping, the similarities between the fabled 1 percent and the rest of us are rather striking. That includes online shopping, too. McBreen’s research revealed that 47 percent of the wealthy routinely use Groupon.
So if moneyed Americans are busy plying the aisles of big-box discounters, where does that leave luxury retailers whose very raison d’être is serving the prosperous? Apparently, it leaves them pretty empty. Millionaire Corner’s survey found that Lord & Taylor (part of Hudson’s Bay Company, which also owns Saks) was a regular destination for just 3 percent of multimillionaire respondents.
Neiman Marcus, with 8 percent, didn’t fare much better. Surprisingly or not, Millionaire Corner isn’t the first researcher to uncover results like these. When the Luxury Institute published its annual Luxury Consumer Experience results last year, it reported that while affluent shoppers “love the Lord & Taylor experience,” only 14 percent of them actually set foot in Lord & Taylor within the preceding year. Most of those shoppers—66 percent, to be exact—were busy at Target.
McBreen added that one reason the affluent aren't throwing money around in high-end stores is because they're not throwing money around, period.
“When asked how much they spend on clothing annually, most of them will indicate that they spend less than $2,500 annually,” she relates. “How much can you buy at Neiman Marcus for that amount? ” Just for the record, right now at Neiman Marcus, $2,490 will buy you exactly one Yves Saint Laurent Y-Ligne Cabas handbag in blue calfskin. By contrast, that same amount at Walmart will pay for 228 pairs of Jordache jeans. Act now, while supplies last.
passatdoc
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I recall an interview with the CEO of Big Lots who said that well over half their clientele is comfortably middle class or higher. And that a sizable minority (like 30%) was upper middle class or higher.
