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keymatic3203

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Hi friends

Yes i won the top twin auction last weekend, it was collected on wednesday.

It was left in a house that the sellers had moved into, we suspect it was still in the kitchen but not in use recently, as it didn't seem damp or full of cobwebbs etc and had a fairly new looking plug which I doubt the sellers put on.
So thats about it for the back story, fortunatly I paid straight away on winning as the seller had a greater offer after I had won the auction. So i do feel pleased to have got it and to have the opportunity to restore it and take it round the wash parties for whoevers interested to also enjoy.

It needs some of the internal hoses replacing and the usual clean and polishing, but on an intial trial everything seemes to work as it should. Going on just the one load (before the perished hoses leaked too much to continue)it's a great performer, I'd say its a shorter but faster adjitator stroke than the servis supertwin and the spin dryer is fantastic, a larger diameter drum than the hoover and faster too, 3000rpm and a lot less vibration than the hoover/hotpoint twin tubs.

So here's some photo's taken at Kris's scullery. Anyone who knows me will understand it's about getting it going before cleaning it up, so thats why the machine still looks a bit gruby in the photos, and once it was running the camera got forgotten lol.

I won't say too much as I will leave room for questions.

Enjoy your weekend washes

Mathew

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wash tub

filling through the suds return, in the parked position the drain arm discharges back into the wash tub. Almost ready for the soap.

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I'm sorry

but thats all the photos I took, once the tub was filled and washing away I forgot the camera, and with the machine left up with kris there's no chance of anymore for a couple of weeks.

Oh the knives are out for me now (vintage electric ones, of course)

And of course as anyone whos collected old appliances, it smelt wonderfully of 60's electrics, if they could bottle it lol.

Thanks for looking

Mathew
 
Riverflow

Hi Mathew
That's fantastic, I'm glad you got hold of it and it doesn't look like it needs too much work. I can see how the 'Riverflow' rinsing works now with that single row of holes in the spin can you'd be able to get plenty of water in. Is it as you thought and the pump runs continuously with the main control in the motor position?
Have a good weekend
Ian
 
My Mum had a Philips Top Twin De luxe but it was considerably different to this machine so I guess it was an earlier/later model?!?! The Spinner lid was hinged on the right and it had a built in/hinged spin mat (pretty useless on reflection). There was much more chrome detail and a badge on the top right of the cabinet in turquoise and black with "Top Twin de luxe" on it, the spinner had it's own dial for up to 6 mins (I think) and a pump setting to allow rinsing in the spinner. The washtub also had a recirculating outlet. Great machine and what a rare find!!
 
`river flow rinsing'

as the brochure calls it.

Ian

Yes you switch the main control to on and the wash motor runs, this also drives two seperate pumps, the adgitator gearbow is belt driven via a clutch exactly like the pulsator drive on the keymatic.

Basically the wash motor runs continuosly, and therefore so does both pumps, so when you put the wet clothes into the spinner the water starts pumping back to the wash tub before you start the spinner up, and also then as you run the rinse water in it starts pumping out, so you never build up a level of water in the outer spiner container. You have to be smart swinging the arm from the suds return back over the sink as the pumps still running when the spinner is not.

And the best bit, when you switch the washer on, a solinoid puts the stop arm away from the clutch housing and away it goes. It takes a while to get used to the fact the motor doesn't stop during the whole wash process, the machine isn't , overly noisy, the wash action makes a noise like it means business, and the spinner sounds similar to the mk 1/2 servis supertwins, but faster.
 
Hi gorgeous guy, I'm so pleased that you won the auction, it looks great as does the the lady's hair on the box of Lux. I can't wait to see it in person. Rich
 
I also love the rubber/plastic nozzles on Kris's taps. My Grandmother had them on her taps up untill we moved her out in 2009.
 
Top Twin

Mathew

I am so pleased that you have rescued this twinne and that it seems to be a fairly straight forward restore.

I uploaded this ad specially for you - it appears that hair style is obligatory for a Top Twin



Kris's kitchen (scullery!!!) looks great too - never mind the rubber bits on the taps, what about that wonderful looking Bendix? And there is a Hoover 262 in there and is that an Acme spinner I just see a corner of? Wonderful

Al
 
GREAT SCORE!!!!

i really "DIG" the agitator washing action on these type of twin tub washers. and i will 2nd that, on the cool control panel. it reminds me of some of the 1950's washers & dryers (which brands, i have no clue) and of the GE electric stoves that had that kind of control panels on them too!!!

so to me, it has a 1950's kind of look because of the style of contro panel it has. but the lettering of the words on the controls, makes me think that maybe this is a 1980's twin tub???

either way, what a cool & cute agitating twin tub!!!

CONGRATULATIONS!!!
and thank you for sharing the great pictures. can't wait to see a video of the washing agitating & spinning action!!!
(hint hint).....

:o)
 
#wow

Thats stunning Mathew, been waiting all week for the thread to come up so we can see.

Extra helpings of Curry, Onion risotto, Garlic bread, and Paxo for you when you next come up to see us. Only if you bring this though haha.

Spinner looks great, I have to admit I do think the wash tub looks very much like the Twin Six tub.

Didnt realise Kris had been rearranging and decorating. Cat sitters to be arranged, were long overdue a visit.

TTFN

Rob
 
Was watching it too in my ebay.....but could see the price was going to be too high as I'd have had to pay shipping to Italy via courrier..so just had to leave...really 103£ would have been out of discussion, it's 125 €! Add to it courrier 200+ € I do not have right now to spend.....would have been too much for me right now, but if it was in another moment I'd have spent even 400€ to get it...
Sure is an awesome machine! Love it! Didn't know someone was interessed here....anyway so glad it was a member getting it!
i'd like videos!!!!
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Philips...

Glad to see its gone to the renovation team, thought it wouldnt be long before a water fill took place, I remeber seeing one in Trident in 1974 when my Nan went looking for a spinner and was mesmerized with the stand up control panel - and look, it actually says "Boil" read it and weep!!

Is the swing out arm a metal stem? and looking at Al`s video link does the water re-circulate all the time whilst washing? Lovely blue colour and that agi looks more powerful vanes than the 1400...Does it have the under agi filter?

Looking forward to seeing it in action - And err Rob, if it does go on tour there will be a "Stand Back - Do Not Touch" sign attached ha ha..far too delicate, there will be no ratchet hands allowed!!

Are these earlier models?

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That's a cool unit. I appreciate seeing what others buy and collect in other countries...which makes aw.org another reason to look around. Thanks and congrats on the Philip's win. I can't get over the condition - doesn't look like they used it much.
 
Love the dials of the one in the first brochure!!!! What an amazing machine!
I hope to see one in person one day!
for me it is just a whim, since whatever i'd get would be of short duration, because I hope to get away from here in a few years.....so I am trying not to spend huge money for what I could enjoy just a few years, but that though would be inherited by my family members over here that would enjoy using them..

For now I am busy with my beloved Servis Mark II trying to get it's spinner to work again... I am perfectly happy with all what I have now, sure is that if I found one near me for like 100€ I'd get it!

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That very first picture is of the machine my mother had. Was just reminded that the wash tub lid was not attached to the machine as well, as is indicated by the picture. I had forgotten how much of a gap there was between the spin can and the machine - not as bad as some of the Rolls twin tubs but I remember being asked by my Mum to put my skinny arm down the side of the spinner to rescue socks that had flown out of the spin can down the side and blocked the water outlet. Because the spin pump operated independantly and the fact that the spin can had few holes she almost always rinsed in the spinner. I remember she was mortified when the machine gave up the ghost and was taken away. It was beyond repair unfortunately.

It is amazing how evocative these images are - I vividly remember that along the front of the stainless steel sink in the kitchen there was a scratch from front to back from the constant scraping of the telescopic discharge arm as the sink was a few millimetres higher.

I never understood the point of the hinged spin mat - it seemed to serve no purpose whatsoever.

I am amazed that this machine you have found is still around and in working order and eagerly await videos. I would love to get my hands on one but they must be as rare as hen's teeth. Congratualations on your find!!
 
hotpoint95622

Mathew

Congratulation and Wow what a fantastic machine, now I can see why no one was talking much last weekend, all I heard was shush, big bidding war on a Philips twin tub.

Will worth it too, and just look at the setting for the maiden wash, looking forward to a viewing in person some time soon.

Bloody hell Once it was washing you forgot the camera, NO no NO you should have picked it up and savoured the photographic evidence for years to come…

Lee
 
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